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Post by clarkeda on Oct 4, 2015 18:55:52 GMT
It was an absolutely blatant penalty but aside from that he was excellent. End of story. This. Christ alive people over analyse
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 18:57:33 GMT
Yeah I mean making daft tackles that should lead to blatant penalties is absolutely fine. Especially when he's not making errors that lead to goals every other week.......
Oh.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 4, 2015 18:59:20 GMT
Because shawcross, Faye and Huth have never given penalties away Of course they have but then they've never been responsible for making errors that lead to goals almost every game. Cameron does. Everyone makes errors but the regularity he makes them is frightening. But lots of people defended Danny Collins so anything is possible I guess. I am not having that. It's one thing to slag off Cameron; even if I think you are wrong in your opinion of him I will defend your right to express it. I will not however have you comparing him (even tenuously) to Danny Collins. That is going too far.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 4, 2015 19:01:07 GMT
Ha, you've been nothing more than wrong on everything you say about him, let alone his contract status and the manager offering him a new one with haste, he was superb yesterday saving their chances in front of our goal and got a USMNT call up aswell. Bayern you're entering on biscuit status with this weekly tirade of yours lol And the manager has replaced him two summer transfer windows running. He might have been and then he made one mistake that luckily wasn't punished, that sums him up. I just don't get why people find the amount of massive mistakes he makes acceptable. But they did with Collins, so anything is possible. The manager hasn't replaced him, lol The manager's goal is to get him into midfield. Yet he can't because of injury after injury. He didn't make a mistake, Adam didn't stop his man, Wollscheid was slow to see the danger and Geoff came from nowhere to get infront of his man. The linesman, and referee weren't interested and the player didn't even make a ruckus for a pen. He didn't make a massive mistake that's where you're wrong. I noticed you were silent on his defensive attributes, positioning and distribution and found the one iffy chance creation in the entire 90 mins to moan about. Your silence on game day was enough.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 4, 2015 19:05:19 GMT
Yeah I mean making daft tackles that should lead to blatant penalties is absolutely fine. Especially when he's not making errors that lead to goals every other week....... Oh. Will you give it a rest? Christ.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 4, 2015 19:09:23 GMT
Yeah I mean making daft tackles that should lead to blatant penalties is absolutely fine. Especially when he's not making errors that lead to goals every other week....... Oh. It didn't lead to a goal, the player was out of control and Geoff's challenge was seen by the ref who rightly said no pen. I love how you ignore the build-up for the chance though.... LOL Whelan couldn't win the aerial, Adam couldn't trackback fast enough, Wollscheid was to slow to stop or get into position to tackle and guess who ended up mopping up the situation after a series of errors by the midfield infront of him... Week after week the midfield let players onto the back four yet your quiet as a mouse on the real issue... Never should of got past 4 men to get into the box.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:10:42 GMT
Of course they have but then they've never been responsible for making errors that lead to goals almost every game. Cameron does. Everyone makes errors but the regularity he makes them is frightening. But lots of people defended Danny Collins so anything is possible I guess. I am not having that. It's one thing to slag off Cameron; even if I think you are wrong in your opinion of him I will defend your right to express it. I will not however have you comparing him (even tenuously) to Danny Collins. That is going too far. He doesn't make that many mistakes but a lot of people used to defend him and say the exact same things. It's a very similar situation.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:11:23 GMT
Yeah I mean making daft tackles that should lead to blatant penalties is absolutely fine. Especially when he's not making errors that lead to goals every other week....... Oh. It didn't lead to a goal, the player was out of control and Geoff's challenge was seen by the ref who rightly said no pen. I love how you ignore the build-up for the chance though.... LOL Whelan couldn't win the aerial, Adam couldn't trackback fast enough, Wollscheid was to slow to stop or get into position to tackle and guess who ended up mopping up the situation after a series of errors by the midfield infront of him... Week after week the midfield let players onto the back four yet your quiet as a mouse on the real issue... Never should of got past 4 men to get into the box. It should have done though, it was a stonewaller. I haven't......go and see the Wollscheid thread!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:12:20 GMT
Yeah I mean making daft tackles that should lead to blatant penalties is absolutely fine. Especially when he's not making errors that lead to goals every other week....... Oh. Will you give it a rest? Christ. No, not when people are glossing over pretty big things for God knows what reason. "he should have given away a peno but it's fine" I just don't get the logic.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:13:29 GMT
And the manager has replaced him two summer transfer windows running. He might have been and then he made one mistake that luckily wasn't punished, that sums him up. I just don't get why people find the amount of massive mistakes he makes acceptable. But they did with Collins, so anything is possible. The manager hasn't replaced him, lol The manager's goal is to get him into midfield. Yet he can't because of injury after injury. He didn't make a mistake, Adam didn't stop his man, Wollscheid was slow to see the danger and Geoff came from nowhere to get infront of his man. The linesman, and referee weren't interested and the player didn't even make a ruckus for a pen. He didn't make a massive mistake that's where you're wrong. I noticed you were silent on his defensive attributes, positioning and distribution and found the one iffy chance creation in the entire 90 mins to moan about. Your silence on game day was enough. Yes he has, first with Bardsley and then with Johnson. And if that's the manager's aim then I fucking despair because we need a much better player in there than Cameron and I think he's a midfielder.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 4, 2015 19:14:33 GMT
Will you give it a rest? Christ. No, not when people are glossing over pretty big things for God knows what reason. "he should have given away a peno but it's fine" I just don't get the logic. Because not every mistake ruins a career. He's never going to be Kompany. Accept him for what he is, enjoy his good games, criticise the bad but if you wrote the match report you'd think he'd be pulled out the stand. That is absolutely not the case.
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 4, 2015 19:15:35 GMT
You're riding his ass for a non-existent penalty, while making no mention of all of the very good things he did on the pitch. Like it or not (you clearly don't) Geoff had a great game. You're either becoming increasingly transparent, or you're not even trying to disguise your hatred anymore. It was a stonewaller and we got lucky....thankfully. He may have done but the penalty highlights everything I say about him perfectly. I don't hate him, like I've said before I really like him, he's just a liability and making tackles like that in the box shows why. The fact that it wasn't a penalty kind of kills your point.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 4, 2015 19:17:18 GMT
It didn't lead to a goal, the player was out of control and Geoff's challenge was seen by the ref who rightly said no pen. I love how you ignore the build-up for the chance though.... LOL Whelan couldn't win the aerial, Adam couldn't trackback fast enough, Wollscheid was to slow to stop or get into position to tackle and guess who ended up mopping up the situation after a series of errors by the midfield infront of him... Week after week the midfield let players onto the back four yet your quiet as a mouse on the real issue... Never should of got past 4 men to get into the box. It should have done though, it was a stonewaller. I haven't......go and see the Wollscheid thread! I bet it's as dead wrong as normal, overreacted and negative, per usual... Wouldn't be surprised... It's your calling card now. So now that Johnson is looking the part, are you going to redact the he's shit and pull out the I told you so? or just go silent there? lol How about Wollscheid and them clean sheets with Geoff at center back? So Whelan's inability to win the aerial taking him out of position and behind the play, Adam's lackadaisical effort to trackback and Wollschied's massive pace to slow veretout have no place! But in Bayern's lil world Cameron's 50/50 challenge on a Villa player out of control with the ball infront of him after beating 4 stoke players in the midfield is "Cameron's Error." Your laughable mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:16:52 GMT
No, not when people are glossing over pretty big things for God knows what reason. "he should have given away a peno but it's fine" I just don't get the logic. Because not every mistake ruins a career. He's never going to be Kompany. Accept him for what he is, enjoy his good games, criticise the bad but if you wrote the match report you'd think he'd be pulled out the stand. That is absolutely not the case. He's not even ever going to be Marc Wilson though is he? That's my issue. And he isn't good either.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:19:28 GMT
It should have done though, it was a stonewaller. I haven't......go and see the Wollscheid thread! I bet it's as dead wrong as normal, overreacted and negative, per usual... Wouldn't be surprised... It's your calling card now. So now that Johnson is looking the part, are you going to redact the he's shit and pull out the I told you so? or just go silent there? lol How about Wollscheid and them clean sheets with Geoff at center back? So Whelan's inability to win the aerial taking him out of position and behind the play, Adam's lackadaisical effort to trackback and Wollschied's massive pace to slow veretout have no place! But in Bayern's lil world Cameron's 50/50 challenge on a Villa player out of control with the ball infront of him after beating 4 stoke players in the midfield is "Cameron's Error." Your laughable mate. I don't think Johnson is looking the part tbh. He was ok vs Bournemouth nothing more but his attacking play is finally getting to where I expect it, which is excellent. Defensively he's still poor. Erm----read the Wollscheid thread. You do make me laugh how you can't follow basic instruction and then make the same mistakes again and again, a bit like Cameron.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 4, 2015 19:19:50 GMT
Because not every mistake ruins a career. He's never going to be Kompany. Accept him for what he is, enjoy his good games, criticise the bad but if you wrote the match report you'd think he'd be pulled out the stand. That is absolutely not the case. He's not even ever going to be Marc Wilson though is he? That's my issue. And he isn't good either. What's the fascination of everyone wanting a 'Nzonzi replacement' 'not Marc Wilson' They are two completely different players, both have good points, both have bad. I trust our management teams judgement over yours.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:20:10 GMT
It was a stonewaller and we got lucky....thankfully. He may have done but the penalty highlights everything I say about him perfectly. I don't hate him, like I've said before I really like him, he's just a liability and making tackles like that in the box shows why. The fact that it wasn't a penalty kind of kills your point. It doesn't though does it? It's like when we win and everything according to most is all rosy because we won and not a bad word can be said. I'll never settle for that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:21:06 GMT
He's not even ever going to be Marc Wilson though is he? That's my issue. And he isn't good either. What's the fascination of everyone wanting a 'Nzonzi replacement' 'not Marc Wilson' They are two completely different players, both have good points, both have bad. I trust our management teams judgement over yours. N'Zonzi and Wilson.........what? Where have you got N'Zonzi from in my reply?
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 4, 2015 19:21:45 GMT
I bet it's as dead wrong as normal, overreacted and negative, per usual... Wouldn't be surprised... It's your calling card now. So now that Johnson is looking the part, are you going to redact the he's shit and pull out the I told you so? or just go silent there? lol How about Wollscheid and them clean sheets with Geoff at center back? So Whelan's inability to win the aerial taking him out of position and behind the play, Adam's lackadaisical effort to trackback and Wollschied's massive pace to slow veretout have no place! But in Bayern's lil world Cameron's 50/50 challenge on a Villa player out of control with the ball infront of him after beating 4 stoke players in the midfield is "Cameron's Error." Your laughable mate. I don't think Johnson is looking the part tbh. He was ok vs Bournemouth nothing more but his attacking play is finally getting to where I expect it, which is excellent. Defensively he's still poor. Erm----read the Wollscheid thread. You do make me laugh how you can't follow basic instruction and then make the same mistakes again and again, a bit like Cameron. Ohh have you changed your tune? Not whining about huth... I don't follow morons instructions. Just like you've instructed Hughe's to sell Cameron this off season. You bellend.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 4, 2015 19:22:48 GMT
What's the fascination of everyone wanting a 'Nzonzi replacement' 'not Marc Wilson' They are two completely different players, both have good points, both have bad. I trust our management teams judgement over yours. N'Zonzi and Wilson.........what? Where have you got N'Zonzi from in my reply? Everyone on this board is banging on about a Nzonzi replacement and can't accept other on their own merits and what THEY bring to the table not what the other player brought. I'm genuinely starting to believe you are just a troll. Edit - is there really any need for you to be sitting on a pretend high horse being patronising?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:23:21 GMT
I don't think Johnson is looking the part tbh. He was ok vs Bournemouth nothing more but his attacking play is finally getting to where I expect it, which is excellent. Defensively he's still poor. Erm----read the Wollscheid thread. You do make me laugh how you can't follow basic instruction and then make the same mistakes again and again, a bit like Cameron. Ohh have you changed your tune? Not whining about huth... I don't follow morons instructions. Just like you've instructed Hughe's to sell Cameron this off season. You bellend. Ooh name calling, classy. Do carry on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:25:13 GMT
N'Zonzi and Wilson.........what? Where have you got N'Zonzi from in my reply? Everyone on this board is banging on about a Nzonzi replacement and can't accept other on their own merits and what THEY bring to the table not what the other player brought. I'm genuinely starting to believe you are just a troll. It's just a case that the others are a bit shit aren't they? But again I have no idea what you're going on about as I never mentioned N'Zonzi or midfield or his replacement to you. I was comparing Wilson to Cameron as centre backs.....
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 4, 2015 19:26:41 GMT
Ohh have you changed your tune? Not whining about huth... I don't follow morons instructions. Just like you've instructed Hughe's to sell Cameron this off season. You bellend. Ooh name calling, classy. Do carry on. Have no reply? Cause you got it dead wrong on him too??? Typical Bayern. I expect a winky face 3 word reply next. Let me guess about your Wollschied tirade... "He made a cart full of mistakes" that lead to phantom goals? Yet, you probably forgot to mention who the other center back starting for Stoke who cleared and covered for him most of the match... Per usual. Deluded.
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 4, 2015 19:27:16 GMT
It was a stonewaller and we got lucky....thankfully. He may have done but the penalty highlights everything I say about him perfectly. I don't hate him, like I've said before I really like him, he's just a liability and making tackles like that in the box shows why. The fact that it wasn't a penalty kind of kills your point. How dare you? How dare you? In a max and paddy kinda a way that you won't get mate but all the same How dare you!
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 4, 2015 19:28:18 GMT
The fact that it wasn't a penalty kind of kills your point. How dare you? How dare you? In a max and paddy kinda a way that you won't get mate but all the same How dare you! Bayern sounds like a bloody villa fan making up phantom goal chances.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:29:46 GMT
Ooh name calling, classy. Do carry on. Have no reply? Cause you got it dead wrong on him too??? Typical Bayern. I expect a winky face 3 word reply next. Let me guess about your Wollschied tirade... "He made a cart full of mistakes" that lead to phantom goals? Yet, you probably forgot to mention who the other center back starting for Stoke who cleared and covered for him most of the match... Per usual. Deluded. No reply because you started name calling for no reason and clearly haven't read what I've put and are still going on like you do. Tbh I can't be doing with your bullshit because you just don't read what's written! So go and read the Wollscheid thread and come back to me with the "oh, you were blaming them too" reply.
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Post by hartzchoco on Oct 4, 2015 19:29:59 GMT
The fact that it wasn't a penalty kind of kills your point. It doesn't though does it? It's like when we win and everything according to most is all rosy because we won and not a bad word can be said. I'll never settle for that. Wh....wh.....what??? No, it does not. What?? Youre moaning about Geoff committing a penalty, but it wasn't a penalty, so it kind of kills your point. I can use a bigger font if you still don't understand, I suppose.
All you ever say about Geoff is bad. Always, no matter what. So it's not that we looked good so not a bad word can be said. It's that you relentlessly attack Geoff out of complete and utter hatred. You're unable to say a good word about the horrible, nasty Yank.
I know it's tough for you to handle, but Geoff had a great game. Deal with it. Yankee hater.
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 4, 2015 19:30:00 GMT
Everyone on this board is banging on about a Nzonzi replacement and can't accept other on their own merits and what THEY bring to the table not what the other player brought. I'm genuinely starting to believe you are just a troll. It's just a case that the others are a bit shit aren't they? But again I have no idea what you're going on about as I never mentioned N'Zonzi or midfield or his replacement to you. I was comparing Wilson to Cameron as centre backs..... Same principle, they are different players, different strengths, different weaknesses. If you want flawless performances every week you are almost certainly watching the wrong team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:30:54 GMT
It doesn't though does it? It's like when we win and everything according to most is all rosy because we won and not a bad word can be said. I'll never settle for that. Wh....wh.....what??? No, it does not. What?? Youre moaning about Geoff committing a penalty, but it wasn't a penalty, so it kind of kills your point. I can use a bigger font if you still don't understand, I suppose.
All you ever say about Geoff is bad. Always, no matter what. So it's not that we looked good so not a bad word can be said. It's that you relentlessly attack Geoff out of complete and utter hatred. You're unable to say a good word about the horrible, nasty Yank.
I know it's tough for you to handle, but Geoff had a great game. Deal with it. Yankee hater.
It should have been though, the ref thankfully being shit is neither here nor there. Being a Cards fan, I do hate the Yankees yes!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2015 19:32:39 GMT
It's just a case that the others are a bit shit aren't they? But again I have no idea what you're going on about as I never mentioned N'Zonzi or midfield or his replacement to you. I was comparing Wilson to Cameron as centre backs..... Same principle, they are different players, different strengths, different weaknesses. If you want flawless performances every week you are almost certainly watching the wrong team. What? I don't want flawless. I want a centre back that won't make massive errors every week. It's really not a lot to ask for.
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