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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Sept 19, 2015 16:47:54 GMT
Things starting to click going forward, looked brilliant at times.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2015 16:48:02 GMT
We need a back 4 and midfielder to partner Whelan......
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 19, 2015 16:49:17 GMT
There's always two sides to a coin. We were great at times, other times abysmal.
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Post by march4 on Sept 19, 2015 16:49:12 GMT
Things starting to click going forward, looked brilliant at times. No good if we can't defend, mate.
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Post by liamo on Sept 19, 2015 16:49:32 GMT
We need a back 4 and midfielder to partner Whelan...... V.Ginkel was not the problem today, he played quite well in fact
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 19, 2015 16:50:23 GMT
thats half the game. The other half we look well dodgy.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2015 16:50:29 GMT
We need a back 4 and midfielder to partner Whelan...... V.Ginkel was not the problem today, he played quite well in fact I still pine for the Fonz!
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 19, 2015 16:52:15 GMT
V.Ginkel was not the problem today, he played quite well in fact I still for the Fonz! He's not as good as Fonz for sure but he was OK today. The problem is that there is a massive gap between MvG & Whelan and the players opposite them which leaves them exposed.
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Post by metalhead on Sept 19, 2015 16:52:37 GMT
V.Ginkel was not the problem today, he played quite well in fact I still pine for the Fonz! If only we had him eh? We wouldn't have lost. Hmm
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2015 16:53:25 GMT
I still for the Fonz! He's not as good as Fonz for sure but he was OK today. The problem is that there is a massive gap between MvG & Whelan and the players opposite them which leaves them exposed. We're just a shambles at the minute for me. But then that doesn't surprise when you see who we have at the back. It's why I've been so worried all summer. Genuinely think we'll struggle.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2015 16:53:51 GMT
I still pine for the Fonz! If only we had him eh? We wouldn't have lost. Hmm And the two clowns at centre back.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Sept 19, 2015 16:56:35 GMT
Arnie , bojan and shaq behind Diouf. Beautiful
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Post by metalhead on Sept 19, 2015 16:56:19 GMT
If only we had him eh? We wouldn't have lost. Hmm And the two clowns at centre back. Which was worst?
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Post by Linx on Sept 19, 2015 16:57:24 GMT
At last, a positive OP. Agreed, the first half showed our potential. MVG looked a lot better and having Walters and Bojan up front seemed to make a difference. The penalty rattled us and stirred them up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 17:01:23 GMT
We are a million miles away from keeping a clean sheet. Until we rectify this problem we will struggle. We need a fit Shawcross back ASAP!
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 19, 2015 17:11:03 GMT
There's nothing to click imo.
The managers biggest failure so far is his failure to play somebody into the number 10 role. As soon a Bojan played we looked 10x better as we did v Spurs when Ireland came one. So why the hell did he persist in the first 5 games with 4-1-4-1???
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 19, 2015 17:13:04 GMT
We were fucking excellent first half, as the OP said, we are getting very close.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2015 17:15:05 GMT
When was the last time we put two halves of football together though?
We didn't vs Liverpool.
Did we vs Spurs? I can't remember that game tbh!
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Post by datguy on Sept 19, 2015 17:16:56 GMT
We need a back 4 and midfielder to partner Whelan...... Honestly thought v. Ginkel put in a solid performance today
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Post by hartzchoco on Sept 19, 2015 17:19:02 GMT
When was the last time we put two halves of football together though? We didn't vs Liverpool. Did we vs Spurs? I can't remember that game tbh! We did not. Poor first half, fought back like warriors in the 2nd.
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Post by liamo on Sept 19, 2015 17:19:11 GMT
We need more of the first half performance, they couldn't put anything together, we were first to every ball, Wilson looked comfortable and in control... then the second half came and they scored, after that we completely unwound and i don't know why
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 19, 2015 17:21:05 GMT
When was the last time we put two halves of football together though? We didn't vs Liverpool. Did we vs Spurs? I can't remember that game tbh! We did not. Poor first half, fought back like warriors in the 2nd. I meant last season sorry when we won 3-0. We didn't put 2 good halves together when we won 6-1 was my Liverpool reference, I didn't make that clear.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 19, 2015 17:21:24 GMT
There's nothing to click imo. The managers biggest failure so far is his failure to play somebody into the number 10 role. As soon a Bojan played we looked 10x better as we did v Spurs when Ireland came one. So why the hell did he persist in the first 5 games with 4-1-4-1??? Spot on! Bojan returning has forced his hand. Today we were missing Diouf and Shawcross and Bojan is some way off fully fit so look forward a few weeks and we will be flying. van Ginkel improving every game, Shaq settling in . It's a long season and we will get stronger every week
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Post by hartzchoco on Sept 19, 2015 17:23:58 GMT
We did not. Poor first half, fought back like warriors in the 2nd. I meant last season sorry when we won 3-0. We didn't put 2 good halves together when we won 6-1 was my Liverpool reference, I didn't make that clear. Sorry, brother. I should've picked that up. I have anger and whiskey running through my veins at the moment.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Sept 19, 2015 17:27:56 GMT
Things starting to click going forward, looked brilliant at times. I reckon so mate. Could do with Shawcross back sooner rather than later. No need to panic though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 17:31:33 GMT
We need more of the first half performance, they couldn't put anything together, we were first to every ball, Wilson looked comfortable and in control... then the second half came and they scored, after that we completely unwound and i don't know why Lack of leadership in the team. Its as simple as that.
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Post by hartzchoco on Sept 19, 2015 17:38:06 GMT
Things starting to click going forward, looked brilliant at times. I reckon so mate. Could do with Shawcross back sooner rather than later. No need to panic though. Maybe not panic, but there's now reason to be concerned. We just fucking choked, hard.
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Post by Skankmonkey on Sept 19, 2015 17:41:02 GMT
I reckon so mate. Could do with Shawcross back sooner rather than later. No need to panic though. Maybe not panic, but there's now reason to be concerned. We just fucking choked, hard. I've watched Stoke since 1965 mate. Concerned is my default mode. <smiley>
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 19, 2015 17:43:00 GMT
We need more of the first half performance, they couldn't put anything together, we were first to every ball, Wilson looked comfortable and in control... then the second half came and they scored, after that we completely unwound and i don't know why Lack of leadership in the team. Its as simple as that. Agree with this, apart from Whelan and Pieters there is noone else that seems to be a strong character on the pitch.
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Post by hartzchoco on Sept 19, 2015 17:45:06 GMT
Maybe not panic, but there's now reason to be concerned. We just fucking choked, hard. I've watched Stoke since 1965 mate. Concerned is my default mode. <smiley> I hear ya, brother. I'm just gutted we let this one get away.
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