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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 16:01:57 GMT
All
Can we please stop blaming referees for the ill discipline and the poor ways we gift teams goals and real chances to beat us
First half we were fantastic and it was great to see bojan score
But for god sake , it is not the referees fault for our poor discipline
Please sort it out mark Hughes
Today was a step in the right direction but Stoke are the masters of their own downfall
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Post by crownmeking on Sept 19, 2015 16:04:35 GMT
SHIT BIN PLEASE
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 19, 2015 16:05:29 GMT
All Can we please stop blaming referees for the ill discipline and the poor ways we gift teams goals and real chances to beat us First half we were fantastic and it was great to see bojan score But for god sake , it is not the referees fault for our poor discipline Please sort it out mark Hughes Today was a step in the right direction but Stoke are the masters of their own downfall I agree. We were architects of our own downfall.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 16:06:57 GMT
Sorry for showing an opinion that differs to your own
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Post by liamo on Sept 19, 2015 16:08:43 GMT
The ref isn't to blame for not giving us a foul right before their second goal? Walters was being held back by Schlupp
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 19, 2015 16:09:02 GMT
Sorry for showing an opinion that differs to your own That isn't allowed on the oatcake mate
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Post by lee1982 on Sept 19, 2015 16:11:12 GMT
It was a definate foul, but regardless we still failed to defend a simple long ball and flick on. We gifted them their goals today
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 16:14:31 GMT
It was a definate foul, but regardless we still failed to defend a simple long ball and flick on. We gifted them their goals today That's what's so frustrating
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 19, 2015 16:14:45 GMT
Are you kidding? How can you not criticise when Schlupp could of actually seen 2 red cards and got a yellow?
Madness
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Post by metalhead on Sept 19, 2015 16:14:47 GMT
Personally, I thought the ref was fucking wank regardless of the penalty.
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Post by StokeAz on Sept 19, 2015 16:18:01 GMT
We wouldn't have conceded the 2nd goal if Walters got the free kick... The players were as frustrated as the fans after their goal, bojan smashing the ball and Walters moaning at the linesman who it seemed had lost his right arm in the second half!
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Post by liamo on Sept 19, 2015 16:18:56 GMT
Their game plan today was throw as many players forward as possible and take it in turns to tactically foul any players breaking for us
The ref was very lenient on them today
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Post by nik80 on Sept 19, 2015 16:39:21 GMT
The penalty looked a penalty to me. Second goal shoulda been a non issue if the ref and lino did their job properly. Thought they were fucking wank all afternoon to be honest.
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Post by fca47 on Sept 19, 2015 16:40:55 GMT
The first was a penalty and the second down to rank bad defending. He was a poor ref but not to blame for their goals.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 19, 2015 16:41:47 GMT
Why is the linesman always shit down the boothen end.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 16:41:58 GMT
We never seem to get any soft decisions. Marriner did not give the pen, the linesman did. Walters out on the right was clearly fouled yet go nothing. Its past a joke.
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Post by nik80 on Sept 19, 2015 16:42:49 GMT
The first was a penalty and the second down to rank bad defending. He was a poor ref but not to blame for their goals. But if he'd done his job, their break wouldn't have come. At least not then.
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Post by Linx on Sept 19, 2015 16:44:05 GMT
I don't normally blame officials but the bloke running the line by the Seddon Stand was having a mare. He letj them get away with murder, missed a ball that went out, giving them the advantage, and kept his flag down when Walters was being Sumo wrestled all the way through their box - from which they got their equaliser.
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Post by stokie23 on Sept 19, 2015 16:45:08 GMT
I would agree with you if they were debatable decisions.
1st goal , there player stopped still and dove to the floor , watch the highlights
2nd goal, should have been free-kick on Walters 30 seconds before.
Pure and simple...we didn't play well in the second half but did not deserve to draw .
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Post by heavysoul on Sept 19, 2015 16:45:12 GMT
Today feels like we lost the game. Bournemouth next.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 19, 2015 16:45:42 GMT
I don't normally blame officials but the bloke running the line by the Seddon Stand was having a mare. He letj them get away with murder, missed a ball that went out, giving them the advantage, and kept his flag down when Walters was being Sumo wrestled all the way through their box - from which they got their equaliser. The dopey cunt also missed the obvious corner late on
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 16:48:42 GMT
Didn't the ref play advantage for Walters ? He was pulled back but had got free but lost possession. Still it was terrible defending by our 2 centre halves
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Post by andylgr on Sept 19, 2015 16:50:51 GMT
The question then is how long do you give the player the advantage, the same happened with Shaqiri in the second half too. But it doesn't mask the fact that the defending was absymal for the second goal.
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Post by Linx on Sept 19, 2015 16:53:08 GMT
I don't normally blame officials but the bloke running the line by the Seddon Stand was having a mare. He letj them get away with murder, missed a ball that went out, giving them the advantage, and kept his flag down when Walters was being Sumo wrestled all the way through their box - from which they got their equaliser. The dopey cunt also missed the obvious corner late on My list was far from comprehensive . It was the worst lino performance I've witnessed for some time. What's happened to the Sian lass? She was the best so far, but I don't seem to have noticed her this season.
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Post by ohbottom on Sept 19, 2015 16:56:55 GMT
Why? I don't necessarily agree with the OP but it's a valid point. You play to the whistle whether you think the ref is wrong or not. It's up to us to defend a long ball isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 17:07:37 GMT
The first was a penalty and the second down to rank bad defending. He was a poor ref but not to blame for their goals. Did you watch the game or are you being a cunt for the sake of it. Walters was fouled THREE times before the goal kick. Bad refereeing as clearly no advantage. The result was their 2nd goal. I lay the blame entirely at the uber cunt Marriners door.
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Post by andylgr on Sept 19, 2015 17:09:52 GMT
Still no excuse for the second goal. Yes everyone thought it was a foul on Walters, except the people that matters, but you have to stay switched on and deal with what happens next. Schoolboy defending.
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Post by Davef on Sept 19, 2015 17:48:00 GMT
Didn't the ref play advantage for Walters ? He was pulled back but had got free but lost possession. Still it was terrible defending by our 2 centre halves He's the same referee who brought back play to give Reading a penalty a few seasons ago after an attack came to nothing. The man is a bellend.
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Post by hartzchoco on Sept 19, 2015 17:57:10 GMT
The refereeing was shit, as it always is. We choked away 3 points, bottom line. Positively gutted.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 18:02:42 GMT
The first was a penalty and the second down to rank bad defending. He was a poor ref but not to blame for their goals. Did you watch the game or are you being a cunt for the sake of it. Walters was fouled THREE times before the goal kick. Bad refereeing as clearly no advantage. The result was their 2nd goal. I lay the blame entirely at the uber cunt Marriners door. the pen WAS a pen, watch the replay and Arnie shoves him in the back. he never appealed against it, just trudged off looking frustrated. no question at all about that one. re: the Walters one,i agree it was an obvious foul and the ref should have given it but...... the post a couple above yours is spot on mate....you learn from the age of about 4 "Play to the whistle". it's a fucking basic...fundamental....beginners stuff! half of our team stood around moaning and that's why they scored
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