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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 10, 2015 18:34:33 GMT
Get you big guy. Another big hard man behind an anonymous user name and keyboard. Your parents must be very proud of you. I support the team every week, home and away, thanks, including Jon Walters. I haven't slagged him off and have actually praised him for making the absolute most of his limited ability and on having his best season to date (last season) in a stoke shirt. I suppose it depends how you define slagging someone off, Dave. In fairness to mickmills, I think a lot of people would say that - he isn't as good as he thinks he is - in describing him as limited I'm being polite - mediocre, average, limited - a plodder who simply isn't good enough - hopefully we will soon have seen the last of him comes pretty close to slagging him off, particularly in what started as a congratulatory thread about international goals. If that isn't slagging him off, I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of a proper slagging off from you A fair enough post I suppose but anyone that makes any negative comment about a player is slagging him off isn't it. Perhaps this isn't the thread to discuss his contract situation but that is how the thread developed, which I suppose you'll consider to be my fault. As I so often see, if we all agreed then there wouldn't be a forum. If we aren't allowed to post our opinions on this forum then what's it for? A favourite line of resident Hardman mmlc himself. Jon Walters has served us well, making the very most of his ability in the process. Fair play to him for that. Doesn't stop me hoping we've soon seen the last of him given that we need better than him if we are to reach the heights our management team are clearly aspiring towards. His behaviour over the last few weeks, were it n'zonzi, Arnie, sidwell or others, would see him absolutely slaughtered. Somehow, Jon Walters escapes the same treatment. Anyway, well done Jon Walters on your goals record for republic of Ireland. Keep up the good work. Don't keep trying to fleece a club that has been good to you and either sign your contract or fuck off! If you're as good as you think you are, statistically or otherwise, you'll get your extra year as and when its appropriate to give it to you.
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Post by mcf on Sept 10, 2015 19:46:10 GMT
Well done Johnny Walters.
What you may lack in pure ability you make up for with other attributes.
A bit like Whelan...people keep writing you off but all too often needed.
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Post by ParaPsych on Sept 10, 2015 19:55:30 GMT
I suppose it depends how you define slagging someone off, Dave. In fairness to mickmills, I think a lot of people would say that - he isn't as good as he thinks he is - in describing him as limited I'm being polite - mediocre, average, limited - a plodder who simply isn't good enough - hopefully we will soon have seen the last of him comes pretty close to slagging him off, particularly in what started as a congratulatory thread about international goals. If that isn't slagging him off, I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of a proper slagging off from you A fair enough post I suppose but anyone that makes any negative comment about a player is slagging him off isn't it. Perhaps this isn't the thread to discuss his contract situation but that is how the thread developed, which I suppose you'll consider to be my fault. As I so often see, if we all agreed then there wouldn't be a forum. If we aren't allowed to post our opinions on this forum then what's it for? A favourite line of resident Hardman mmlc himself. Jon Walters has served us well, making the very most of his ability in the process. Fair play to him for that. Doesn't stop me hoping we've soon seen the last of him given that we need better than him if we are to reach the heights our management team are clearly aspiring towards. His behaviour over the last few weeks, were it n'zonzi, Arnie, sidwell or others, would see him absolutely slaughtered. Somehow, Jon Walters escapes the same treatment. Anyway, well done Jon Walters on your goals record for republic of Ireland. Keep up the good work. Don't keep trying to fleece a club that has been good to you and either sign your contract or fuck off! If you're as good as you think you are, statistically or otherwise, you'll get your extra year as and when its appropriate to give it to you. So in the interests of fairness would you prefer it if the players you named did not to get slaughtered in this scenario, or would you prefer it if Walters did get slaughtered? It may be the former but it comes across as the latter.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 10, 2015 20:11:37 GMT
A fair enough post I suppose but anyone that makes any negative comment about a player is slagging him off isn't it. Perhaps this isn't the thread to discuss his contract situation but that is how the thread developed, which I suppose you'll consider to be my fault. As I so often see, if we all agreed then there wouldn't be a forum. If we aren't allowed to post our opinions on this forum then what's it for? A favourite line of resident Hardman mmlc himself. Jon Walters has served us well, making the very most of his ability in the process. Fair play to him for that. Doesn't stop me hoping we've soon seen the last of him given that we need better than him if we are to reach the heights our management team are clearly aspiring towards. His behaviour over the last few weeks, were it n'zonzi, Arnie, sidwell or others, would see him absolutely slaughtered. Somehow, Jon Walters escapes the same treatment. Anyway, well done Jon Walters on your goals record for republic of Ireland. Keep up the good work. Don't keep trying to fleece a club that has been good to you and either sign your contract or fuck off! If you're as good as you think you are, statistically or otherwise, you'll get your extra year as and when its appropriate to give it to you. So in the interests of fairness would you prefer it if the players you named did not to get slaughtered in this scenario, or would you prefer it if Walters did get slaughtered? It may be the former but it comes across as the latter. Of course its the former. See my stance on asmir begovic. A player I rated highly yet who I criticised far worse than anything I've said about Walters.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2015 20:15:41 GMT
So in the interests of fairness would you prefer it if the players you named did not to get slaughtered in this scenario, or would you prefer it if Walters did get slaughtered? It may be the former but it comes across as the latter. Of course its the former. See my stance on asmir begovic. A player I rated highly yet who I criticised far worse than anything I've said about Walters. To the point where if I believed in the sodding things (I don't) I would have said you had an agenda!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 10, 2015 20:30:06 GMT
Of course its the former. See my stance on asmir begovic. A player I rated highly yet who I criticised far worse than anything I've said about Walters. To the point where if I believed in the sodding things (I don't) I would have said you had an agenda! Thanks for backing me up there Bayern :-)
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 10, 2015 20:39:27 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 10, 2015 20:46:03 GMT
So now he's put in a tranfer request as well. The greedy bstard. PS Who said footballers were thick.....
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 10, 2015 20:49:26 GMT
Well done Johnny Walters. What you may lack in pure ability you make up for with other attributes. A bit like Whelan...people keep writing you off but all too often needed. He doesn't lack anything in pure ability. Ask these managers who keep picking him!
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 10, 2015 21:03:45 GMT
To the point where if I believed in the sodding things (I don't) I would have said you had an agenda! Thanks for backing me up there Bayern :-) Don't you just love the bombast of SJW while he's Bojan's foil, drinking Goalie's drinks, putting thorns in sides, and pissing all over the general poncery of the Premier League though. We all know, and Hughes has said it several times: "He's not the most technical of players but with Johnathon Walters you know what you'll get." Predictability in at least one position is a good thing, and especially valuable when there's a transition underway. He won't be with us much longer, I'm happy to continue embracing his inadequacies and celebrating his achievements. Brilliant Shaq back up. Game manager {he is quite subtle with his free kick winning}. And Cup hero. And it's ace down the Brit when a Super Super John breaks out. {Didn't post that in an attempt to sway you Dave, just to put a marker down. SJW is part of why I stick with the football, always room for a trier {and he's more than that} when he trots out with his quarter-to-three feet I never know where the bo might go. Of course there are better, and if it becomes a backroom battle of wills then I just hope Walters plays his way out of Stoke.}
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 10, 2015 21:10:34 GMT
Thanks for backing me up there Bayern :-) Don't you just love the bombast of SJW while he's Bojan's foil, drinking Goalie's drinks, putting thorns in sides, and pissing all over the general poncery of the Premier League though. We all know, and Hughes has said it several times: "He's not the most technical of players but with Johnathon Walters you know what you'll get." Predictability in at least one position is a good thing, and especially valuable when there's a transition underway. He won't be with us much longer, I'm happy to continue embracing his inadequacies and celebrating his achievements. Brilliant Shaq back up. Game manager {he is quite subtle with his free kick winning}. And Cup hero. And it's ace down the Brit when a Super Super John breaks out. {Didn't post that in an attempt to sway you Dave, just to put a marker down. SJW is part of why I stick with the football, always room for a trier {and he's more than that} when he trots out with his quarter-to-three feet I never know where the bo might go. Of course there are better, and if it becomes a backroom battle of wills then I just hope Walters plays his way out of Stoke.} He's a cheeky chappy alright. His ability outside of actually having the football is great. Easily in the top two of every stat. ;-)
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 11, 2015 10:16:43 GMT
Thanks for backing me up there Bayern :-) Don't you just love the bombast of SJW while he's Bojan's foil, drinking Goalie's drinks, putting thorns in sides, and pissing all over the general poncery of the Premier League though. We all know, and Hughes has said it several times: "He's not the most technical of players but with Johnathon Walters you know what you'll get." Predictability in at least one position is a good thing, and especially valuable when there's a transition underway. He won't be with us much longer, I'm happy to continue embracing his inadequacies and celebrating his achievements. Brilliant Shaq back up. Game manager {he is quite subtle with his free kick winning}. And Cup hero. And it's ace down the Brit when a Super Super John breaks out. {Didn't post that in an attempt to sway you Dave, just to put a marker down. SJW is part of why I stick with the football, always room for a trier {and he's more than that} when he trots out with his quarter-to-three feet I never know where the bo might go. Of course there are better, and if it becomes a backroom battle of wills then I just hope Walters plays his way out of Stoke.} Great post.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 11, 2015 20:05:02 GMT
I suppose it depends how you define slagging someone off, Dave. In fairness to mickmills, I think a lot of people would say that - he isn't as good as he thinks he is - in describing him as limited I'm being polite - mediocre, average, limited - a plodder who simply isn't good enough - hopefully we will soon have seen the last of him comes pretty close to slagging him off, particularly in what started as a congratulatory thread about international goals. If that isn't slagging him off, I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of a proper slagging off from you A fair enough post I suppose but anyone that makes any negative comment about a player is slagging him off isn't it. Perhaps this isn't the thread to discuss his contract situation but that is how the thread developed, which I suppose you'll consider to be my fault. As I so often see, if we all agreed then there wouldn't be a forum. If we aren't allowed to post our opinions on this forum then what's it for? A favourite line of resident Hardman mmlc himself. Jon Walters has served us well, making the very most of his ability in the process. Fair play to him for that. Doesn't stop me hoping we've soon seen the last of him given that we need better than him if we are to reach the heights our management team are clearly aspiring towards. His behaviour over the last few weeks, were it n'zonzi, Arnie, sidwell or others, would see him absolutely slaughtered. Somehow, Jon Walters escapes the same treatment. Anyway, well done Jon Walters on your goals record for republic of Ireland. Keep up the good work. Don't keep trying to fleece a club that has been good to you and either sign your contract or fuck off! If you're as good as you think you are, statistically or otherwise, you'll get your extra year as and when its appropriate to give it to you. I criticised him strongly ( 'slagged him off' I suppose) in the hard copy Oatcake for his post-election tweets, which didn't impress me at all, despite the fact that I like him as a footballer. It is often said of some players that their off-field personalities and very different to their on-field personalities ( it used to said of Mark Hughes when he was a hard and tough player). I've never met Jon Walters but he strikes me as the opposite. His on-field and off-field personalities appear similar. Tough, up for a fight if necessary, says it how he sees it, no respecter of reputation, fights his corner, plenty of balls, winds people up (on and off the field) and is not worried by that, will look after his mates. The kind of bloke who you would want next to you if you get in any bother on a Saturday night. I always remember the sheer guts of him stepping forward to take that penalty in the last few minutes against Arsenal in front of the Boothen after all that had happened and been said about him and penalties. I wasn't at all sure he should have been allowed to take it, but really respected his bottle in stepping straight up to do so.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 11, 2015 20:11:19 GMT
A fair enough post I suppose but anyone that makes any negative comment about a player is slagging him off isn't it. Perhaps this isn't the thread to discuss his contract situation but that is how the thread developed, which I suppose you'll consider to be my fault. As I so often see, if we all agreed then there wouldn't be a forum. If we aren't allowed to post our opinions on this forum then what's it for? A favourite line of resident Hardman mmlc himself. Jon Walters has served us well, making the very most of his ability in the process. Fair play to him for that. Doesn't stop me hoping we've soon seen the last of him given that we need better than him if we are to reach the heights our management team are clearly aspiring towards. His behaviour over the last few weeks, were it n'zonzi, Arnie, sidwell or others, would see him absolutely slaughtered. Somehow, Jon Walters escapes the same treatment. Anyway, well done Jon Walters on your goals record for republic of Ireland. Keep up the good work. Don't keep trying to fleece a club that has been good to you and either sign your contract or fuck off! If you're as good as you think you are, statistically or otherwise, you'll get your extra year as and when its appropriate to give it to you. I criticised him strongly ( 'slagged him off' I suppose) in the hard copy Oatcake for his post-election tweets, which didn't impress me at all, despite the fact that I like him as a footballer. It is often said of some players that their off-field personalities and very different to their on-field personalities ( it used to said of Mark Hughes when he was a hard and tough player). I've never met Jon Walters but he strikes me as the opposite. His on-field and off-field personalities appear similar. Tough, up for a fight if necessary, says it how he sees it, no respecter of reputation, fights his corner, plenty of balls, winds people up (on and off the field) and is not worried by that, will look after his mates. The kind of bloke who you would want next to you if you get in any bother on a Saturday night. I always remember the sheer guts of him stepping forward to take that penalty in the last few minutes against Arsenal in front of the Boothen after all that had happened and been said about him and penalties. I wasn't at all sure he should have been allowed to take it, but really respected his bottle in stepping straight up to do so. I don't disagree with any of that but all of it is related to his guts, his tenacity and sheer force of personality and little is to do with his actual ability with a football at his feet.
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