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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 30, 2015 23:03:48 GMT
Durban is our most underrated manager. Despite the reputation there were some cracking games with him as manager.
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Post by Zero on Aug 31, 2015 0:28:45 GMT
The most 'entertaining' football for goals scored at the Vic was during the holocaust season. Shame we didn't score any of them. Why did attendances dip to a pittance - because football has nothing whatsoever to do with entertainment. It is a results business and nothing else. True, which was why our previous manager was shown the door. Chairmen aren't football fans, they're passengers. They probably do take entertainment into account when confronting a manager, given that that's all they'd usually get from a football game. It might have been why people disliked the manager, but it never was, and in any case people with a certain approach to the game aren't going to dislike somebody who has the same just so that they can get somebody who does not, as it happens. In any case fans should probably not have any influence on the running of a football team...
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Post by generationex on Aug 31, 2015 0:33:35 GMT
Chairmen are hardly passengers! It's their money that's on the line. Unsurprisingly that's why Peter Coates regards results as more important than style!
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Post by Zero on Aug 31, 2015 0:53:07 GMT
Chairmen are hardly passengers! The rest seems to be about paraphrasing reasons why they're passengers, rather than whether. Because they might not pay attention to a match? Others do. In any case they can hardly have been expecting Champions League places or Arsene Wenger to join, right? Chairmen frequently make style or popularity-based moves rather than results-based moves, especially when they aren't considering the results to be something that would fundamentally shift. They certainly wouldn't have most of their moves regarded otherwise than in terms of those, which is alright I suppose, and their team is directed as such. At a certain point it is mostly about what people say about a club anyway.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2015 0:55:53 GMT
Circus' are really shit.
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Post by greenbaize on Aug 31, 2015 1:07:20 GMT
Durban did a good job and doesn't get the credit he deserves, Bear in mind that he joined us a week after the Blythe Spartans debacle! Durban was a good manager for us getting us promoted back into the top flight but fans at that time never forgave him for later pissing off to blunderland. I remember going up their for a night match in the league with barker in charge of us, we won 2 nil and gave Durban dogs abuse all match absolutely loved it at the time. That apart though he deserves to be remember as one of our top managers.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 31, 2015 2:28:53 GMT
Durban did a good job and doesn't get the credit he deserves, Bear in mind that he joined us a week after the Blythe Spartans debacle! Durban was a good manager for us getting us promoted back into the top flight but fans at that time never forgave him for later pissing off to blunderland. I remember going up their for a night match in the league with barker in charge of us, we won 2 nil and gave Durban dogs abuse all match absolutely loved it at the time. That apart though he deserves to be remember as one of our top managers. In the Every step along the way video Durban explained for the first time why he left us. It was because he'd been with us and done well they didn't get in touch to discuss a new contract or a contract expansion. The board arrogantly assumed he'd stay without considering any other possibilities.
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Post by liam007 on Aug 31, 2015 5:38:15 GMT
Apologies, you are correct. Like Sergeant Muttley said, Jimmy Hill criticised us after the 0-0, but the clown comments were after the 2-0 defeat. Well i've learnt something tonight dave because i thought the comments were after the 0-0 bore draw. Me too mate because i honestly thought that comment was after the 0-0 game.It's horrible getting old and your memory goes.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 31, 2015 5:46:21 GMT
That's what I thought up to a couple of years ago, then I did some digging around and it appears it was the 80/81 season. This is from wikipedia that cites Tony Matthews excellent Encyclopedia of Stôke City as its source. Apologies, you are correct. Like Sergeant Muttley said, Jimmy Hill criticised us after the 0-0, but the clown comments were after the 2-0 defeat. I think we'd all like to think it was the preceding 0-0 game so that the tactics (and comment) were justified by the outcome.
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