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Post by silverdollar on Aug 30, 2015 12:40:23 GMT
The debating goes on concerning the sending offs and I think it clearly shows serious question marks concerning the decisions of the officials. I know one thing for certain that it ruined a game for Stoke fans when I personally I think the penalty paid did not reflect the seriousness of the crimes.
The petulance shown by both players in the Allefay sending off could never be described as "Violent conduct". The reaction of an over officious referee was a disgrace. Both players were guilty of the same trivial face interference. The WBA player should be dealt with immediately by the FA for feigning injury!
This whole incident could have been dealt with quickly by both players going off to a "Sin Bin" for a period of ten minutes before being allowed back onto the pitch.
Even the Adam incident shows that the linesman could have been hasty in his conviction that Adam deliberately stamped on the player.
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 30, 2015 12:42:45 GMT
'It'll slow the game down too much'
Like video replays, would be a decent ish idea. But won't happen.
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Post by lordb on Aug 30, 2015 12:49:16 GMT
Like to see it tried out.
Save red cards for serious stuff.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 30, 2015 12:49:06 GMT
They should introduce the 'shit bin' for west brom after that piss poor effort against 9 men.
However on your original topic I believe we should introduce a 'challenge' option like in tennis to determine if a crucial incident is correct, such as red cards, dubious penalties and questionable offsides.
Maybe 3 per game, again like tennis.
Then use the scoreboard in a way akin to rugby league games to show the outcome.
It's not too intrusive on the game and can add an element of excitement.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Aug 30, 2015 12:52:11 GMT
Nah!
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 30, 2015 12:55:11 GMT
Put the Ref in the sin bin and replay him his mistakes while the 4th official takes charge.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Aug 30, 2015 12:59:30 GMT
They should introduce the 'shit bin' for west brom after that piss poor effort against 9 men. However on your original topic I believe we should introduce a 'challenge' option like in tennis to determine if a crucial incident is correct, such as red cards, dubious penalties and questionable offsides. Maybe 3 per game, again like tennis. Then use the scoreboard in a way akin to rugby league games to show the outcome. It's not too intrusive on the game and can add an element of excitement. They do this in baseball at present (and all American Sports). The coach is allowed one "Challenge" of a decision, where he can ask for a replay and review by a central review team in New York. He is allowed a second and final one in the game if the first is overturned. The Umpires can also use a review late in the game. It doesn't hold the game up for more than a minute in most cases - granted baseball is a slower game than football, but how long did it take for the ref to deal with the two incidents yesterday for example? |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 30, 2015 13:15:18 GMT
Nah, too Rugby for my tastes. The rhyming name, the lack of controversy... It's a bit too plastic and cringy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 13:30:08 GMT
It is certainly better than losing a man for the rest of the game, but the referees would still be inconsistent. What they would do in the main would be to give sin bins to their favourites and sendings off for the rest. It would lead to even more dissatisfaction amongst us fans.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 30, 2015 13:45:46 GMT
They should have one for Refs.
After all,a bin is where most of them belong.
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Post by Ayupshag on Aug 30, 2015 14:41:51 GMT
Yes. Watched the hockey the other night and so many rules in that game would fit right into football. Yellow card 5 min sin bin. 1 decision review by each team per half for contentious decisions regarding in or outside the box etc. if a player fouls another player then the player who made the foul is out of the game for around 5-10 seconds. Players can take a free hit to himself and keep the game moving.
There are many more that would work. There's hardly any arguing with officials and it's a brutal game. Shows how far football has fallen when women are tougher than these prima dona over paid wankers
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Post by prestige on Aug 30, 2015 15:22:17 GMT
i would also like to see the sin bin rules atleast tried.
Some offenses deserve more than a yellow but not a sending off
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Post by stokesaint1 on Aug 30, 2015 20:43:13 GMT
i would also like to see the sin bin rules atleast tried. Some offenses deserve more than a yellow but not a sending off Most referees struggle making the right decision with just two options, give them a third option and they'd probably explode. Sin bin would have to replace a yellow, which is how it works(and pretty well)in rugby. There is also the "on report" option, which highlights an incident, where an independent panel review it and decide appropriate action, albeit it is not the team offended against that benefits but future opposition. Not a great fan of "on report" if I'm honest, it just gives referees an option to chicken out completely. Sin bin instead of yellows would add an interesting element to games and I'd like to see it trialled.. |
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Post by jeycov on Aug 30, 2015 20:46:34 GMT
They'd need to build even more dugouts, with 4 seats in each one!
Video referrals for red cards and penalties next step imo
Goal line technology and 10 yd foam spray is working
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 30, 2015 20:59:40 GMT
I would like to see refs given more leeway to give stern warnings to players for first offences instead of making black and white decisions that ruin games. I don't think the officials yesterday read the game which then turned what was a good competive match into a farce. Yes some offences clearly need to be dealt with immediately using cards but a semblance of common sense has to prevail. After all fans pay a kings ransome to watch PL games but often ruined by petty incompetent refs. It looked to me yesterday that the officials were looking for a violent incident, couldn't find one so made them up.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 30, 2015 21:08:41 GMT
A ref in each half.
One observing and taking in a different angle when the ball is in the other refs half.
They can consult, cut out dissent and off the ball and acting stuff.
Liners just for the linear aspect of the game, throw ins and whatnot.
Simplify offside.
But I wouldn't want to sanitize or over officiate the game.
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Post by Zero on Aug 31, 2015 3:35:25 GMT
Sent-off players should be used to fill in the corners. That'll show 'em.
Really don't see that much benefit to avoiding sendings-off, football isn't as fast-paced as the games usually associated with such and stuff such as powerplays, etc., would just not seem to have as much place within it. In any case, such couldn't just be used for red card offences, couldn't using such for yellows, etc., as well actually lead to a fairly awkward arrangement, as well as a fairly fluctuating match given the consistency with which people might be going in and out of the match? You might want to shorten the post-match ban to something more irrelevant like one match, etc., when longer.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 31, 2015 3:37:54 GMT
How about we get proper men to referee matches instead of weak little boys like Oliver? Just a thought... You know a Rugby referee would make bounds in the game he wouldn't take shit from all those little cunts cussing at him or their whining and diving.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 31, 2015 3:40:28 GMT
It would be worth experimenting with. Not sure how. A youth tournament perhaps??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 5:19:48 GMT
The debating goes on concerning the sending offs and I think it clearly shows serious question marks concerning the decisions of the officials. I know one thing for certain that it ruined a game for Stoke fans when I personally I think the penalty paid did not reflect the seriousness of the crimes. The petulance shown by both players in the Allefay sending off could never be described as "Violent conduct". The reaction of an over officious referee was a disgrace. Both players were guilty of the same trivial face interference. The WBA player should be dealt with immediately by the FA for feigning injury! This whole incident could have been dealt with quickly by both players going off to a "Sin Bin" for a period of ten minutes before being allowed back onto the pitch. Even the Adam incident shows that the linesman could have been hasty in his conviction that Adam deliberately stamped on the player. Rather than an actual sin bin, how about a holding bin, while the sending off is reviewed, if the panel agree it was a red, then he's off, if they think it was a wrong decision then he's back on. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 31, 2015 7:05:56 GMT
Yes. Watched the hockey the other night and so many rules in that game would fit right into football. Yellow card 5 min sin bin. 1 decision review by each team per half for contentious decisions regarding in or outside the box etc. if a player fouls another player then the player who made the foul is out of the game for around 5-10 seconds. Players can take a free hit to himself and keep the game moving. There are many more that would work. There's hardly any arguing with officials and it's a brutal game. Shows how far football has fallen when women are tougher than these prima dona over paid wankers This is the problem with Football....too many egos ruining the game. Respect for officials went out of the window a long time ago, mainly due to the poor performances from the officials in the first place. Keown on MOTD summed it up on Saturday when he said it was acceptable to surround the ref and try to influence them......WHAT A TIT!! |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 31, 2015 16:43:00 GMT
Danny Kelly on Talksport advocating a new system.
If a player is red carded then they can be replaced meaning you'd use up a sub.
There should be a black card for extremely violent behaviour or for preventing a goal scoring opportunity, you couldn't replace the black carded player.
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 31, 2015 17:28:50 GMT
The debating goes on concerning the sending offs and I think it clearly shows serious question marks concerning the decisions of the officials. I know one thing for certain that it ruined a game for Stoke fans when I personally I think the penalty paid did not reflect the seriousness of the crimes. The petulance shown by both players in the Allefay sending off could never be described as "Violent conduct". The reaction of an over officious referee was a disgrace. Both players were guilty of the same trivial face interference. The WBA player should be dealt with immediately by the FA for feigning injury! This whole incident could have been dealt with quickly by both players going off to a "Sin Bin" for a period of ten minutes before being allowed back onto the pitch. Even the Adam incident shows that the linesman could have been hasty in his conviction that Adam deliberately stamped on the player. It's an interesting idea. There are a couple of issues which need thinking through, but definitely worth looking at. |
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