|
Post by partickpotter on Aug 30, 2015 11:16:38 GMT
Liverpool match - we deserved a draw in an average game. Spurs match - fantastic comeback and great spirit but only after they handed us the initiative (Kane subbed) Norwich match - equal first half but outplayed second half by a team that came up via the play offs Luton match - couldn't impose ourselves on a very poor team WBA match - one of the worst opponents we've ever played in the top flight but I can't recall a single save by their keeper. Spirited effort by nine but the first third of the match we didn't create a thing. Barring a miracle at Arsenal the following two games (Leicester and Bournemouth) will define our entire season. IF we don't win either of these we are in serious trouble. I'm NOT panicking yet but already we are looking iffy and if we go seven games in (almost 20% of the season) and have four points we are in a scrap and will our new recruits be up for a scrap? Have I got this right? You are not panicking after 4 games, but you will start panicking afer 7. And our entire season is defined by what happens in August and September?
|
|
|
Post by lennythegoose on Aug 30, 2015 11:20:49 GMT
Personally, I am struggling with this like for like comparison on individual matches although I respect that it' is a barometer that you attach some value to. The Man City and Liverpool results were not the norm last season so surely we can't use those as a barometer of our progress for this season? We lost the first two home games of last season 1-0 so I don't see how this is 'by far' our worst start. I agree that the balance of the team is out and needs addressing. I would love Lescott here - an experienced PL central defender to play in central defence. We only have 1 of these in the squad and he's currently out for 3 months. If we had that stable, settled base at the back, then I'd be more relaxed about the attacking options gelling more swiftly. As it is, each department of the pitch is currently formative at best and therefore under pressure to gel more quickly than it should. This is somewhat worrying. Neither were home defeats to Leicester and Burnley a barometer last season. I've tended to find that this method of tracking points accumalation is a source of great comfort when things look a little bleak. Its particularly interesting in this case because benji slammed me for using this method last season. Now, its modus operendi for him. You couldn't make it up. The positive is that we have 3 games coming up that yielded zero points last season so come the end of those fixtures, I predict that we will be no more than 2 points behind last seasons run rate. I'm coming round to your way of thinking especially or the next 3 games. Can I apply the following thought process: if we lose the next 3 games, we will be no worse off than last season and therefore we'll finish ninth? This will help conquer my negative thoughts...
|
|
|
Post by partickpotter on Aug 30, 2015 11:21:04 GMT
Common sense begininimg to prevail . We can of course do something about it In the next 48 hours .we need Pace on the left and power and nous in the centre . Moses is a no brainier for the left if we can get him and the centre is either s centre half of a central midfield presence The only thing we really need, well other than nappies for folks like your good self shitting themselves, is a cb replacement for Ryan (assuming he is out for a large part of the next four months). Other than that - the squad looks plenty good enough to continue where we left of last season, if not do even better.
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 30, 2015 11:25:45 GMT
Common sense begininimg to prevail . We can of course do something about it In the next 48 hours .we need Pace on the left and power and nous in the centre . Moses is a no brainier for the left if we can get him and the centre is either s centre half of a central midfield presence You keep saying common sense is prevailing yet you have consistently displayed a total lack of common sense over the last 2 seasons.
|
|
|
Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 30, 2015 11:26:06 GMT
Common sense begininimg to prevail . We can of course do something about it In the next 48 hours .we need Pace on the left and power and nous in the centre . Moses is a no brainier for the left if we can get him and the centre is either s centre half of a central midfield presence The only thing we really need, well other than nappies for folks like your good self shitting themselves, is a cb replacement for Ryan (assuming he is out for a large part of the next four months). Other than that - the squad looks plenty good enough to continue where we left of last season, if not do even better. Fully agree with you, another CB to replace Ryan would be great but other than that I think we've got a squad that will do very well this season.
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 30, 2015 11:26:40 GMT
Neither were home defeats to Leicester and Burnley a barometer last season. I've tended to find that this method of tracking points accumalation is a source of great comfort when things look a little bleak. Its particularly interesting in this case because benji slammed me for using this method last season. Now, its modus operendi for him. You couldn't make it up. The positive is that we have 3 games coming up that yielded zero points last season so come the end of those fixtures, I predict that we will be no more than 2 points behind last seasons run rate. I'm coming round to your way of thinking especially or the next 3 games. Can I apply the following thought process: if we lose the next 3 games, we will be no worse off than last season and therefore we'll finish ninth? This will help conquer my negative thoughts... Exactly right :-)
|
|
|
Post by nicholasjalcock on Aug 30, 2015 11:31:29 GMT
The only thing we really need, well other than nappies for folks like your good self shitting themselves, is a cb replacement for Ryan (assuming he is out for a large part of the next four months). Other than that - the squad looks plenty good enough to continue where we left of last season, if not do even better. Fully agree with you, another CB to replace Ryan would be great but other than that I think we've got a squad that will do very well this season. I don't know a poster who doesn't think we need a CH but there's no evidence we've got any in mind let alone sign one!
|
|
|
Post by freddowling on Aug 30, 2015 11:32:43 GMT
West Bromwich fans were more piss ed off than us and fear rest of season whereas I don't Look at Chelsea and Liverpool who both lost at home to 11 players I'm only interested in my beloved Stoke City and to be totally honest I've never been excited about this much since I supported them in 1971
|
|
|
Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 30, 2015 11:34:30 GMT
Fully agree with you, another CB to replace Ryan would be great but other than that I think we've got a squad that will do very well this season. I don't know a poster who doesn't think we need a CH but there's no evidence we've got any in mind let alone sign one! Although I'd like to see a CB come in I can't see it happening, I think we'll be fine regardless though.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 11:58:06 GMT
I would really like us to go for Charlie Austin, but it won't happen!
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 12:03:07 GMT
The only thing we really need, well other than nappies for folks like your good self shitting themselves, is a cb replacement for Ryan (assuming he is out for a large part of the next four months). Other than that - the squad looks plenty good enough to continue where we left of last season, if not do even better. Fully agree with you, another CB to replace Ryan would be great but other than that I think we've got a squad that will do very well this season. Must admit that I'd like to see experienced CB cover, another winger and a CDM brought in but don't see it happening now. There's sufficient depth to the squad to cover any position which is reassuring; unfortunately the gap in ability between first choice and their back-up is larger in some positions than I would like.
|
|
|
Post by alfboulton on Aug 30, 2015 12:22:31 GMT
many of your facts are correct but the post is slanted towards negativity. Losing N'Zonzi and Shawcross has been so difficult to deal with as the spine of the side has been dismantled. One could include Begovic but have we really missed him? Up until yesterday things were not too bad but no one could have predicted yesterday's events and it does leave us in a situation where we do need to pull our socks up. However, the return of Shawcross and a fit Bojan plus the continuing development of the partnership between Van Ginkel(or Cameron) and Whelan should see us in a good position. I wish Mark Hughes could be as effective at the start of each season as he is at the end of the season!
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 12:25:17 GMT
1 2 points from 12 - agreed as fact, but not reason to get sand in vagina at this time2 No clean sheets - agreed as fact, but not reason to get sand in vagina at this time3 None of the new players except arguably Johnson have added anything and look totally out of their depth in this league including the hugely insignificant shaq - complete bollocks. Shaqiri needs couple more games to get back match sharpness, already showing signs of what he can do. Van Ginkel growing in to the role. Affelay was looking decent until being stupid. Fucks sake - judging signings on 2 to 4 games...4 we have conceded today from another simple cross - it was actually a very good cross and good movement from Rondon. Impossible to stop everything5 we look totally I'll equipped to deal with this league and the pace and hard nosed orofessionalsim it requires - just complete bollocks. Absolutely nonsense. Not just talking from your arse, but almost that your arse got super pissed and then talking shit6 we have no less than 8 points less than we did from the same fixtures last year - and what do last years results have impact on? What about compared to two years ago? Five years ago? 43 years ago?7 Even if we beat Leicester and Bournemouth assuming we lose at arsenal we will still only have 8 from 7 if we don't Then well below the relegation points per game hurdle - so that's how it will play for the rest of the season? It would also give 43 points, which will be 7 more than needed for safety8 we don't look like scoring even when we dominate the ball - complete bollocks. It's not easy at all to break down teams with so many behind the ball. Takes patience and working what space there is9 we chronically miss Moses , Nzonzi and shawcross - chronically?? Jesus fucking Christ! Moses - no, he played half of season - part of which included very slow start. Shakiri will be twice the player Moses is. Nzonzi - is this same one that for half of season was criticised for being too slow, sometimes not interested? He had good third of season towards end. Van Ginkel will be far more valuable this season. Shawcross - yes, agreed, who wouldn't miss their Shawcross. Of course you can see this either way for me we are on ten very edge of a QPR like disaster start the pressure is building and those two home games are the most crucial I can recall . 10 Our start now matches Sunderland's catastrophic actually - with Stoke City's games being the tougher. I suppose you think also that Leicester and Crystal Palace will finish top 4 because of their start? Bullshit. Stoke will finish above both of them.For me Cameron made a huge difference in midfield today and has to start there . Unequivocally we are materially weaker than last year as point 6 shows and the window is now shown up for the total disaster a few of us said it was we need to get something from those games if our season is not to implode .
Full of shit. the only thing at risk of imploding is your own sanity. I fear for you, that maybe one day you will have a positive thought or positive hope, especially when Stoke get a point against Arsenal, but you will not know how to react...like a gay guy touching minge. It will blow your mind and keep thinking "This is not for me".
|
|
|
Post by stokie1130 on Aug 30, 2015 12:30:39 GMT
We are 2 points off the majority of the league including Chealsea, other than man city no one has had the best of starts, please giv ur head a wobble, we are 4 games in with our squad still yet to gel and bed in, where do some of these so called fans come from, bet the bloke who wrote this crap thread left at half time if it was as bad as he reckons, that's if he even went to the game
|
|
|
Post by johnnydenz on Aug 30, 2015 12:38:35 GMT
Very much overdramatic because we look superb and with an understanding all over.
We'll be taking teams apart any month now.
|
|
|
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 30, 2015 14:16:43 GMT
Bottom three now played own team in the top 10 so far and none of the top 5 , Gravity is calling don't invest pay the price ! Today is our last wake up call 48 hours to sort it out .
|
|
|
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 30, 2015 14:23:47 GMT
Stoke city's games tougher than whose Sunderland have played Swansea and Leicester and Southampton all top 10 we haven't played any of the top 5 and one of the top 10 .
It'ts a truly awful awful start and there is no cosmetic manipulation can change that . Gravity is knocking on the door like the grim reaper don't invest pay !
|
|
|
Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 30, 2015 16:43:26 GMT
Stoke city's games tougher than whose Sunderland have played Swansea and Leicester and Southampton all top 10 we haven't played any of the top 5 and one of the top 10 . It'ts a truly awful awful start and there is no cosmetic manipulation can change that . Gravity is knocking on the door like the grim reaper don't invest pay ! do you maybe think part of the reason those teams are in the top half is because they've had the privilege of already playing Sunderland?
|
|
|
Post by malteser68 on Aug 30, 2015 17:04:42 GMT
Common sense begininimg to prevail . We can of course do something about it In the next 48 hours .we need Pace on the left and power and nous in the centre . Moses is a no brainier for the left if we can get him and the centre is either s centre half of a central midfield presence The only thing we really need, well other than nappies for folks like your good self shitting themselves, is a cb replacement for Ryan (assuming he is out for a large part of the next four months). Other than that - the squad looks plenty good enough to continue where we left of last season, if not do even better. I don't agree we will certainly not do better than last year people really underestimate the loss we suffered with nzonzi leaving
|
|
|
Post by malteser68 on Aug 30, 2015 17:06:18 GMT
Stoke city's games tougher than whose Sunderland have played Swansea and Leicester and Southampton all top 10 we haven't played any of the top 5 and one of the top 10 . It'ts a truly awful awful start and there is no cosmetic manipulation can change that . Gravity is knocking on the door like the grim reaper don't invest pay ! do you maybe think part of the reason those teams are in the top half is because they've had the privilege of already playing Sunderland? Who says that when we play Sunderland we won't be in Xmas father mood like last year at the stadium of light ? west brom used to be 3 points in the bag; not anymore
|
|
|
Post by stokie25 on Aug 30, 2015 17:15:29 GMT
I said before the liverpool game that I'd like to fast forward to mid November and forget the early season. It's notoriously difficult to read the season based on at least the first 10 games. History has shown this for a lot of clubs including ourselves, remember paddy power?
We need to get the transfer window distraction for players shut and re-group with the personnel that will see us through to May. We can then focus on our objectives and look at the opposition every week with a more pro active and consistent game plan.
|
|
|
Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 30, 2015 18:11:15 GMT
Common sense begininimg to prevail . We can of course do something about it In the next 48 hours .we need Pace on the left and power and nous in the centre . Moses is a no brainier for the left if we can get him and the centre is either s centre half of a central midfield presence The only thing we really need, well other than nappies for folks like your good self shitting themselves, is a cb replacement for Ryan (assuming he is out for a large part of the next four months). Other than that - the squad looks plenty good enough to continue where we left of last season, if not do even better. ..."The only thing we really need ..." This is crucial in my opinion.... it looks like Shawcross could be out for months, even the season. Cameron, Wilson and Wooly are not good enough. If we cannot obtain a decent commanding centre-back (not easy I know)... then we need a hard bastrd in the midfield. This situation could get really shitty very quickly if we are not careful. If Ryan is out for a long time someone in our management/administration needs sacking. I know the situation... but we should have had a contingency plan in place. This is the Premiership. If Sparky thinks Wooly is the contingency then he needs sacking.
|
|
|
Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 30, 2015 18:11:44 GMT
do you maybe think part of the reason those teams are in the top half is because they've had the privilege of already playing Sunderland? Who says that when we play Sunderland we won't be in Xmas father mood like last year at the stadium of light ? west brom used to be 3 points in the bag; not anymore A 1-1 draw in an away fixture is not really a bad result in my book. We've lost to West Brom at home before, and they didn't need two more players than us to do so. We are a much better team than the doom merchants on here suggest, games we should win are not always winnable and games we don't expect to get anything from sometimes yield results. Chelsea are 13th right now, Palace are in 2nd and Leicester are 3rd. Chelsea will be in the top six by Christmas. The other two will have to work miracles to stay there for that long, and they would be ecstatic to remain in the top ten by the season's close. I believe we will earn more points than the likes of Sunderland, Watford, Bournemouth, and Villa over the course of the remaining 90% of the season. Which would put us well clear of the drop.
|
|
|
Post by Stokie Mcpot on Aug 30, 2015 19:03:01 GMT
How long before this fucker deletes his account like the rest of them?
Whining like a bitch after 4 games. If by Christmas time we're in the shit, then I'll be concerned.
|
|
|
Post by NG4POTTERS on Aug 30, 2015 19:20:31 GMT
The brutal truth is that the internet gives people a chance to just bang that drum like Keith moon, absolutely hammer it until it gives you a headache and you couldn't see any good points or truth in a post because of the excessive fucking banging of the nail. I find your posts totally ridiculous benji. If there was a balance then maybe you could be taken seriously but I honestly think that no person who bleeds red and white and has the passion in their heart would troll and spam like this. Faceless notoriety.
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 30, 2015 19:31:10 GMT
The brutal truth is that the internet gives people a chance to just bang that drum like Keith moon, absolutely hammer it until it gives you a headache and you couldn't see any good points or truth in a post because of the excessive fucking banging of the nail. I find your posts totally ridiculous benji. If there was a balance then maybe you could be taken seriously but I honestly think that no person who bleeds red and white and has the passion in their heart would troll and spam like this. Faceless notoriety. Please don't call him benji. My little lad is a benji so I refuse to refer to this troll as anything other than biscuit.
|
|
|
Post by stockholm on Aug 30, 2015 19:34:50 GMT
It's going to be a long season. Reap what you sow. Loans and free transfers will only get you so far.
|
|
|
Post by metalhead on Aug 30, 2015 19:45:46 GMT
I don't think Victor will sign.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 19:47:59 GMT
The brutal truth is that the internet gives people a chance to just bang that drum like Keith moon, absolutely hammer it until it gives you a headache and you couldn't see any good points or truth in a post because of the excessive fucking banging of the nail. I find your posts totally ridiculous benji. If there was a balance then maybe you could be taken seriously but I honestly think that no person who bleeds red and white and has the passion in their heart would troll and spam like this. Faceless notoriety. Please don't call him benji. My little lad is a benji so I refuse to refer to this troll as anything other than biscuit. Would 'massive cunt' suffice as a nickname, not wild about biscuit. Big fan of hobnobs myself and it seems unfair that they should share a name with that fool
|
|
|
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 30, 2015 21:27:42 GMT
Desperate insults as logic prevails .
We've had a terrible window our star winger from last year is going to West Ham and we are in the bottom three with a. Running. Rate well short of the minimum requirement .
It's not judgmental it's simply Saying it needs fixing and the summer next level shit is Proving to be just that .
All the concerned community are saying is separate the reality from the propaganda and we are in trouble .
|
|