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Post by upthefud on Aug 31, 2015 15:54:40 GMT
Are you ever going to let go? Whatever Pulis had done you'd still have found fault with him because you have a very irrational hatred. Let him go for your own sanity. Not when people like you and Geoff keep trotting out tripe. What's it feel like to be mugged off by your hero? I'm of an age where I no longer have a hero and I don't feel mugged off by Tony Pulis. I feel mugged off by a mixture of Oliver Adam and Afellay. What's it feel like to be a fully grown man with a deep rooted and irrational hatred of a Stoke City legend?
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Post by skip on Aug 31, 2015 15:59:26 GMT
Geoff321 - I am now more convinced than ever that you are a close friend of Pulis.
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Post by jstoke7 on Aug 31, 2015 15:59:44 GMT
Not when people like you and Geoff keep trotting out tripe. What's it feel like to be mugged off by your hero? I'm of an age where I no longer have a hero and I don't feel mugged off by Tony Pulis. I feel mugged off by a mixture of Oliver Adam and Afellay. What's it feel like to be a fully grown man with a deep rooted and irrational hatred of a Stoke City legend? So you haven't been even the slightest bit disappointed at all with 1. What him and Kemp have said about the club since he left and 2. His actions at the game yesterday?
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 31, 2015 15:59:59 GMT
He was given the ovation for his service to Stoke City which ended over two years ago with his removal as manager. Despite receiving a fair amount of abuse over the last two years he has kept a dignified silence only broken by praise for Stoke, Peter Coates and most of the fans.
Tony Pulis must have dreamt about his return to the Brit and you can imagine it must have been an emotional afternoon for him, above all he would be desperate to win and he did, if in a fortunate manner.
As he said in his interview he was paid by Stoke to do a job and he did it, now he is paid by West Brom and he has to do a job for them, defeat on Saturday might even have cost him his job, I'm afraid Pugs it's you that doesn't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 16:00:11 GMT
Not when people like you and Geoff keep trotting out tripe. What's it feel like to be mugged off by your hero? I'm of an age where I no longer have a hero and I don't feel mugged off by Tony Pulis. I feel mugged off by a mixture of Oliver Adam and Afellay. What's it feel like to be a fully grown man with a deep rooted and irrational hatred of a Stoke City legend? What's it like to be a fully grown man and not understand the term "irrational"?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2015 16:00:22 GMT
Not when people like you and Geoff keep trotting out tripe. What's it feel like to be mugged off by your hero? I'm of an age where I no longer have a hero and I don't feel mugged off by Tony Pulis. I feel mugged off by a mixture of Oliver Adam and Afellay. What's it feel like to be a fully grown man with a deep rooted and irrational hatred of a Stoke City legend? Legends don't act like that mate and you know it. You're totally entrenched with sticking up for him so in your eyes everything he does is acceptable. I can't stand the bloke I'll admit it but I've never hid the fact. After the weekend many people have seen him for what he is.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 31, 2015 16:02:38 GMT
I'm of an age where I no longer have a hero and I don't feel mugged off by Tony Pulis. I feel mugged off by a mixture of Oliver Adam and Afellay. What's it feel like to be a fully grown man with a deep rooted and irrational hatred of a Stoke City legend? What's it like to be a fully grown man and not understand the term "irrational"? "Irrationality is cognition, thinking, talking or acting without inclusion of rationality. It is more specifically described as an action or opinion given through inadequate use of reason, emotional distress, or cognitive deficiency." Do you think Pugsley is rational when it comes to his thoughts on TP? To be honest you probably do.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 31, 2015 16:02:54 GMT
Geoff321 - I am now more convinced than ever that you are a close friend of Pulis. He's a Vale fan with a strange love for prehistoric football managers and tactics.
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 31, 2015 16:04:25 GMT
Slayer we all know the Vale rejected you in a trial, but don't take it out on me.
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Post by jstoke7 on Aug 31, 2015 16:05:56 GMT
What's it like to be a fully grown man and not understand the term "irrational"? "Irrationality is cognition, thinking, talking or acting without inclusion of rationality. It is more specifically described as an action or opinion given through inadequate use of reason, emotional distress, or cognitive deficiency." Do you think Pugsley is rational when it comes to his thoughts on TP? To be honest you probably do. He probably isn't, as I'm probably not as I don't like him either. But don't try and act like you are balanced about him. The telling point here is that even some of Pulis' biggest fans were disappointed and have stated he's gone down in their estimation after Saturday.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 31, 2015 16:05:48 GMT
I'm of an age where I no longer have a hero and I don't feel mugged off by Tony Pulis. I feel mugged off by a mixture of Oliver Adam and Afellay. What's it feel like to be a fully grown man with a deep rooted and irrational hatred of a Stoke City legend? Legends don't act like that mate and you know it. You're totally entrenched with sticking up for him so in your eyes everything he does is acceptable. I can't stand the bloke I'll admit it but I've never hid the fact. After the weekend many people have seen him for what he is. Yeah I know you haven't hid from it but again you're part of the crowd going over board. Some are saying he's worse than Hitler. This is the man who is our second most successful manager in history. His tactics spoilt the game Saturday and I wouldn't even consider bringing him back but he's a man who does a lot for charity and is employed to win football matches. This abuse for a legend (at least on paper he is) is absolutely ridiculous.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2015 16:06:08 GMT
He was given the ovation for his service to Stoke City which ended over two years ago with his removal as manager. Despite receiving a fair amount of abuse over the last two years he has kept a dignified silence only broken by praise for Stoke, Peter Coates and most of the fans. Tony Pulis must have dreamt about his return to the Brit and you can imagine it must have been an emotional afternoon for him, above all he would be desperate to win and he did, if in a fortunate manner. As he said in his interview he was paid by Stoke to do a job and he did it, now he is paid by West Brom and he has to do a job for them, defeat on Saturday might even have cost him his job, I'm afraid Pugs it's you that doesn't get it. I get all that, what I don't get is his need to behave in a total classless manner. Like I've been saying for years, he doesn't give a shit about SCFC and supporters. The idiots who stood up can clapped him have been totally mugged off by him. They must be gutted.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 31, 2015 16:07:33 GMT
He was given the ovation for his service to Stoke City which ended over two years ago with his removal as manager. Despite receiving a fair amount of abuse over the last two years he has kept a dignified silence only broken by praise for Stoke, Peter Coates and most of the fans. Tony Pulis must have dreamt about his return to the Brit and you can imagine it must have been an emotional afternoon for him, above all he would be desperate to win and he did, if in a fortunate manner. As he said in his interview he was paid by Stoke to do a job and he did it, now he is paid by West Brom and he has to do a job for them, defeat on Saturday might even have cost him his job, I'm afraid Pugs it's you that doesn't get it. There is no way anyone could defend his actions on Saturday, he is what he is a grade A classless chav the way he behaved to our club and the supporters who gave him an affectionate welcome was disgraceful, he will be given both barrels from now on by the majority of Stoke fans and rightly so.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 31, 2015 16:10:36 GMT
What did Pulis do that showed a lack of class and maturity and that isn't done by football players and managers every weekend? Because Tony Pulis isn't just any other manager to Stoke City is he? The bloke is a club legend after his 11 years here, and respect is a two way street. He was shown a great deal of it by a great deal of the supporters on Saturday. He didn't show any in return. Although I know you know that Geoff, I aren't going to bother to explain it to you any further.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 31, 2015 16:11:04 GMT
He was given the ovation for his service to Stoke City which ended over two years ago with his removal as manager. Despite receiving a fair amount of abuse over the last two years he has kept a dignified silence only broken by praise for Stoke, Peter Coates and most of the fans. Tony Pulis must have dreamt about his return to the Brit and you can imagine it must have been an emotional afternoon for him, above all he would be desperate to win and he did, if in a fortunate manner. As he said in his interview he was paid by Stoke to do a job and he did it, now he is paid by West Brom and he has to do a job for them, defeat on Saturday might even have cost him his job, I'm afraid Pugs it's you that doesn't get it. I get all that, what I don't get is his need to behave in a total classless manner. Like I've been saying for years, he doesn't give a shit about SCFC and supporters. The idiots who stood up can clapped him have been totally mugged off by him. They must be gutted. Neither does Lou Macari. You've agreed before that there's no loyalty in football and employees go where the money is, I just don't get why it should be different with Pulis. Only Wilko and Shenton genuinely care about the fans and area but as fans we get attached to managers and players who do a good job for us.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2015 16:15:29 GMT
I get all that, what I don't get is his need to behave in a total classless manner. Like I've been saying for years, he doesn't give a shit about SCFC and supporters. The idiots who stood up can clapped him have been totally mugged off by him. They must be gutted. Neither does Lou Macari. You've agreed before that there's no loyalty in football and employees go where the money is, I just don't get why it should be different with Pulis. Only Wilko and Shenton genuinely care about the fans and area but as fans we get attached to managers and players who do a good job for us. Lou Macari didn't act like that on his return. In fact the first thing he did was stroll up to Gudjon and raise his arm to say this is who you should be cheering and clapping for. You call for respect for Pulis but can't see that it's a two way street. Sad.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 31, 2015 16:15:46 GMT
"Irrationality is cognition, thinking, talking or acting without inclusion of rationality. It is more specifically described as an action or opinion given through inadequate use of reason, emotional distress, or cognitive deficiency." Do you think Pugsley is rational when it comes to his thoughts on TP? To be honest you probably do. He probably isn't, as I'm probably not as I don't like him either. But don't try and act like you are balanced about him. The telling point here is that even some of Pulis' biggest fans were disappointed and have stated he's gone down in their estimation after Saturday. I'm pushed to defend him because of some of the pathetic over-reactions on here. I like Pulis and admire the job he did for us and agree that it was the right time for him to go. On Saturday he did his homework as you would expect a manager to do. His tactics may have spoilt the game but as an employee of WBA he got the job he's paid to do done with a lot of luck.
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 31, 2015 16:18:17 GMT
Tony Pulis has shown nothing but class and maturity towards Stoke City, the Chairman and fans for over two years despite massive provocation by a few.
At 3pm on Saturday it was not his duty to behave any differently than any other manager in any other game, either because it was his former club or because he got a good reception, his only responsibility was to West Brom.
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Post by jstoke7 on Aug 31, 2015 16:22:24 GMT
Tony Pulis has shown nothing but class and maturity towards Stoke City, the Chairman and fans for over two years despite massive provocation by a few. At 3pm on Saturday it was not his duty to behave any differently than any other manager in any other game, either because it was his former club or because he got a good reception, his only responsibility was to West Brom. Massive provocation such as multiple banners and signs at the Palace game? Come off it.
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Post by jstoke7 on Aug 31, 2015 16:24:51 GMT
He probably isn't, as I'm probably not as I don't like him either. But don't try and act like you are balanced about him. The telling point here is that even some of Pulis' biggest fans were disappointed and have stated he's gone down in their estimation after Saturday. I'm pushed to defend him because of some of the pathetic over-reactions on here. I like Pulis and admire the job he did for us and agree that it was the right time for him to go. On Saturday he did his homework as you would expect a manager to do. His tactics may have spoilt the game but as an employee of WBA he got the job he's paid to do done with a lot of luck. And some might see your unwavering defence of him pathetic...it works both ways. His tactics aren't the issue, everyone knew how he was going to set up.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 31, 2015 16:24:35 GMT
Tony Pulis has shown nothing but class and maturity towards Stoke City, the Chairman and fans for over two years despite massive provocation by a few. At 3pm on Saturday it was not his duty to behave any differently than any other manager in any other game, either because it was his former club or because he got a good reception, his only responsibility was to West Brom. Who's provoked him? So if that's the case he should've been treated like any other opposition manager by the fans because our (when I say our, i mean obviously not you and some others) only interest is Stoke City.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 31, 2015 16:25:25 GMT
Tony Pulis has shown nothing but class and maturity towards Stoke City, the Chairman and fans for over two years despite massive provocation by a few. At 3pm on Saturday it was not his duty to behave any differently than any other manager in any other game, either because it was his former club or because he got a good reception, his only responsibility was to West Brom. And a complete refusal to even acknowledge the job his successor has done since he took over, instead choosing petty snide remarks.
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 31, 2015 16:32:48 GMT
Pulis was given an ovation for his past services to Stoke which was well deserved. I think it's fair to say Tony Pulis is an intense sort of person and he must have wound himself up for this game in particular, my guess is that his behaviour was an outburst of spontaneous emotion and relief.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2015 16:33:47 GMT
Pulis was given an ovation for his past services to Stoke which was well deserved. I think it's fair to say Tony Pulis is an intense sort of person and he must have wound himself up for this game in particular, my guess is that his behaviour was an outburst of spontaneous emotion and relief. Thanks for that complete load of bollocks Kempo.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 31, 2015 16:34:47 GMT
He probably isn't, as I'm probably not as I don't like him either. But don't try and act like you are balanced about him. The telling point here is that even some of Pulis' biggest fans were disappointed and have stated he's gone down in their estimation after Saturday. I'm pushed to defend him because of some of the pathetic over-reactions on here. I like Pulis and admire the job he did for us and agree that it was the right time for him to go. On Saturday he did his homework as you would expect a manager to do. His tactics may have spoilt the game but as an employee of WBA he got the job he's paid to do done with a lot of luck. In what way did he 'do his homework'? He got lucky that we self-destructed.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 31, 2015 16:35:12 GMT
I'm pushed to defend him because of some of the pathetic over-reactions on here. I like Pulis and admire the job he did for us and agree that it was the right time for him to go. On Saturday he did his homework as you would expect a manager to do. His tactics may have spoilt the game but as an employee of WBA he got the job he's paid to do done with a lot of luck. And some might see your unwavering defence of him pathetic...it works both ways. His tactics aren't the issue, everyone knew how he was going to set up. Some have said he's worse than Hitler. I don't think my defence of the man is based on him being better than Mother Therasa.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 16:35:14 GMT
What's it like to be a fully grown man and not understand the term "irrational"? "Irrationality is cognition, thinking, talking or acting without inclusion of rationality. It is more specifically described as an action or opinion given through inadequate use of reason, emotional distress, or cognitive deficiency." Do you think Pugsley is rational when it comes to his thoughts on TP? To be honest you probably do. He has stated many reasons in the past why he dislikes Pulis.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 31, 2015 16:38:33 GMT
Tony Pulis has shown nothing but class and maturity towards Stoke City, the Chairman and fans for over two years despite massive provocation by a few. At 3pm on Saturday it was not his duty to behave any differently than any other manager in any other game, either because it was his former club or because he got a good reception, his only responsibility was to West Brom. Not seen many ex managers who were greeted in the manner he was would react how he did, leaving his technical area umpteen times even though warned repeatedly, screaming obscenities at home supporters, arguing with opposition players is that how managers are supposed to behave /, classless chav bully.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 31, 2015 16:38:42 GMT
I'm pushed to defend him because of some of the pathetic over-reactions on here. I like Pulis and admire the job he did for us and agree that it was the right time for him to go. On Saturday he did his homework as you would expect a manager to do. His tactics may have spoilt the game but as an employee of WBA he got the job he's paid to do done with a lot of luck. In what way did he 'do his homework'? He got lucky that we self-destructed. By spotting Afellay's petulance and targeting him. The push into the hoardings and the bad tackle led to him striking out, Pulis was lucky that Gardner's raised hand didn't see him sent off but that's Oliver's fault not TP's. If Hughes were to target Ramsey for example and get him to strike out then I would like to image we'd all see it as good management.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Aug 31, 2015 16:40:48 GMT
What did Pulis do that showed a lack of class and maturity and that isn't done by football players and managers every weekend? put the list up of players and managers that have been at a club for 10yrs and acted like they'd won the league when came back to said club and won against 9 men please !
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