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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 28, 2015 21:28:06 GMT
New Order. Restless.
In light of the recent "Ode to Anthony H Wilson" cancer charity record and the fact that New Order are probably the best band ever - any fans?
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Post by pearo on Aug 28, 2015 21:41:21 GMT
That should get the World in Motion
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 29, 2015 6:46:31 GMT
I used to be obsessed with New Order, although they weren't the greatest live performance. My mate used to say, "If you think Joy Division are depressing, You don't understand them."
Favourite song: Angel Dust or Vanishing Point
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Post by redstriper on Aug 29, 2015 7:49:19 GMT
Current personal favourites are
Leave me a alone and your silent face
when I got married our first record was "Ceremony" - as the wife liked JD and new Order too... in hindsight, probably the only thing we had in common
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 29, 2015 8:42:45 GMT
Never saw Joy Division live (or Warsaw Pact) but saw New Order early 1980s (including there 1983 Viccy Hall gig when they were shit). NO were either rubbish or brilliant live in those days. Saw them at Wolverhampton Civic Hall when they did a few Joy Division songs (Isolation/Transmission/Control etc) and they did Love will Tear us Apart as an encore...Amazing.
Always liked Tony Wilson and his Situationist Views & Peter Savilles designs.
Remember The Hacienda and how they used to Play that Spaghetti Western blokes theme tunes with the posters of Clint Eastwood (early days after they moved from Russell Street) Enrico Marricone or something like that.
Thought NOs best album was True Faith (1986) when they finally found themselves and got away from the 'Movement' albums.
Favourite NO track 'Everythings Gone Green'.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 29, 2015 8:53:51 GMT
Ian Curtis was an awesome (and, of course, sadly tragic) front man - not so sure about his dancing though!
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 29, 2015 13:03:55 GMT
5-8-6 Power, Corruption & Lies
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 29, 2015 21:56:02 GMT
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Post by nik80 on Aug 29, 2015 23:16:52 GMT
Like them both.
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 30, 2015 8:26:51 GMT
True Faith. Substance 1987.
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 30, 2015 10:55:58 GMT
I used to be obsessed with New Order, although they weren't the greatest live performance. My mate used to say, "If you think Joy Division are depressing, You don't understand them." Favourite song: Angel Dust or Vanishing Point Thats half the fun. The "how crap is Barney's singing going to be tonight?" roulette. |
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 30, 2015 13:30:51 GMT
Favourite NO track 'Everythings Gone Green'. Everything's Gone Green, The poor mans Blue Monday. Still got it on 12" |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 30, 2015 13:43:37 GMT
Favourite NO track 'Everythings Gone Green'. Everything's Gone Green, The poor mans Blue Monday. Still got it on 12" Tony Wilson said "Everything's Gone Green" was one of the most important records ever made. More important than "Blue Monday". |
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Post by UNKLE on Aug 30, 2015 15:52:56 GMT
I used to be obsessed with New Order, although they weren't the greatest live performance. My mate used to say, "If you think Joy Division are depressing, You don't understand them." Favourite song: Angel Dust or Vanishing Point Thats half the fun. The "how crap is Barney's singing going to be tonight?" roulette. Saw them at Brixton a couple of years ago, and can honestly say Mr Sumners vocals were the worst I'd ever heard live, bar Paul Heaton's at a festival years ago. |
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 30, 2015 16:14:47 GMT
Thats half the fun. The "how crap is Barney's singing going to be tonight?" roulette. Saw them at Brixton a couple of years ago, and can honestly say Mr Sumners vocals were the worst I'd ever heard live, bar Paul Heaton's at a festival years ago. I suppose in truth he was always 2nd fiddle |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 30, 2015 17:10:25 GMT
My fave song.
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Post by bathstoke on Aug 30, 2015 17:20:35 GMT
I know it's obvious, but that cover with the Hitler Youth combined with the two groups names. Any ideas!?!
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 30, 2015 18:13:37 GMT
I know it's obvious, but that cover with the Hitler Youth combined with the two groups names. Any ideas!?! What did you think a Joy Division was?  |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 30, 2015 19:51:13 GMT
Conner beat driving through the Hills on a tractor, or in a VW with a sharp haircut in yer Bundeswher vest.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 30, 2015 19:56:17 GMT
The most miserable band in Britain find New York Disco. Result, result.
Mint.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 30, 2015 20:02:54 GMT
So very nearly a walkout tune.....
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 30, 2015 22:22:25 GMT
So very nearly a walkout tune..... I prefer the "Substance" version of "1963" myself. Each to their own, though. Here's the video that explains the song too. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 30, 2015 23:08:05 GMT
I like the instrumental version of 1963 bestest. Went off NO for a while, didn't think they'd stood the test of time, but having seen Hooky a few times recently they're back on the Dansette.
The best live New Order I saw was Leeds Tiffany's.
You never quite knew what you'd get live: volatile, abrasive and often quite shit.
Teetering on the edge of chaos only the fact that the devotees had memorised everything carried it along.
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 31, 2015 0:07:45 GMT
New Order. Special.
It isn't what it used to be
I wake up every night
On the stairs
Waiting for the dawn to come
Every drop of wine
You can be my time
Only tomorrow knows
Why do we beg when we can borrow
This time we knew
No more or less
There's nothing left
It was always special
It was like water down the drain
I'm intoxicated
Every time I hear your name
I try to remember
But nothing is the same
It wasn't that I didn't try
It's not the kind of thing, that you buy
Written in my destiny
Life is but a dream
Covered by the sky
Stop saying that you're calling time
Look at your life before you start on mine
I'm not the kind of person that you need
I'm sick of trying
I mean that it's over
It was always special
It was like water down the drain
I'm intoxicated
Every time I hear your name
I try to remember
But nothing is the same
It was always special
it was like water down the drain
Patiently you wait for me
You're so blind
I thought it couldn't be
Then changed my mind
Drowning in the endless sea
Line all those lines
The traces of your memory
Don't belong with mine
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Post by roge8014 on Sept 1, 2015 19:29:33 GMT
I'm a bigger fan of JD than NO (preferring NO's earlier stuff).
Debbie Curtis' book Touching From A Distance is an excellent read and give a personal insight into Ian Curtis' private life and his tragic end - after reading it I think I understood Unknown Pleasures and Closer much better.
Fav track? Well considering they changed so much of the time I'd go:
Early JD - Leaders of Men
Unknown Pleasures - Shadowplay or maybe The Day Of Lords
Closer - Heart & Soul or Atrocity Exhibition or maybe even Isolation
NO - Everything's Gone Green (another vote)
If you haven't seen Anton Corbijn's Control, then I'd defo recommend it.
One of my favourite covers....A Means To An End, Gotico
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 1, 2015 21:36:32 GMT
Going slightly off track (no pun intended) Factory were also responsible for A Certain Ratio..Durutti Column..Stockholm Monsters and my particular favourite..Section 25 (amongst others).
I was always fascinated with Peter Savilles Designs and Factory's near obsessive attention to detail..illustrated best by there catalogue system...said by some to be an extension of Tony Wilsons personality.
The first record Factory put out (FAC2) was a Factory sample including Durutti Column/Joy Division & Cabaret Voltaire.
The first record by a group was (FAC5) A Certain Ratio..All Night Party. FAC10 was JDs Unknown Pleasures and the first JD single Factory released was (FAC13) Transmission.
Factory catalogued everything from FAC1..A Poster advertising a 1978 gig at The Factory Club (JD/A Certain Ratio/Tiller Boys/Big in Japan/Cabaret Voltaire) to FAC501 the Plaque on Tony Wilsons coffin.
Tony Wilson always said that it was better to make History than Money and he certainly did that. An absolutely fascinating character 'Broadcaster and Cultural Catalyst' as somebody once said.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 1, 2015 21:49:51 GMT
Going slightly off track (no pun intended) Factory were also responsible for A Certain Ratio..Durutti Column..Stockholm Monsters and my particular favourite..Section 25 (amongst others). I was always fascinated with Peter Savilles Designs and Factory's near obsessive attention to detail..illustrated best by there catalogue system...said by some to be an extension of Tony Wilsons personality. The first record Factory put out (FAC2) was a Factory sample including Durutti Column/Joy Division & Cabaret Voltaire. The first record by a group was (FAC5) A Certain Ratio..All Night Party. FAC10 was JDs Unknown Pleasures and the first JD single Factory released was (FAC13) Transmission. Factory catalogued everything from FAC1..A Poster advertising a 1978 gig at The Factory Club (JD/A Certain Ratio/Tiller Boys/Big in Japan/Cabaret Voltaire) to FAC501 the Plaque on Tony Wilsons coffin. The Hacienda cat had a bloody Factory catalogue number. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 1, 2015 22:02:15 GMT
Kalima
Abecedarians
Cath Carroll
The Railway Children
Biting Tongues
James
Happy Mondays
thanks for reminding me about Stockholm Monsters, 'Fairytale'.
They were ace.
The artwork is immense.
'Atmosphere' and 'Blue Monday' 12" are iconic 80's ephemera.
Happy to have witnessed this shit at fairly close quarters.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 1, 2015 22:06:14 GMT
FAC23 JD Love Will Tear us Apart
FAC25 JD Closer *Album
FAC53 NO Procession
FAC63 NO Temptation
FAC73 NO Blue Monday
FAC75 NO Power Corruption & Lies
FAC86 'Christmas 1983 The Hacienda.
FAC100 NO Low Life* Album
FAC103 NO Thieves Like Us
My favourite early NO works with their catalogue numbers for those like me with OCD
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Sept 1, 2015 22:18:43 GMT
Still not sure why I embraced
Movement
Ceremony
Procession
A bit like a holding exercise during the transition.
Big fan of 'In a Lonely Place'.
'Atrocity Exhibition' from 'Closer' still blows me head straight off.
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