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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Aug 27, 2015 19:42:08 GMT
ATM we are scraping points albeit with not playing well. we need time as a team to gel and find a formula system . We do have more talent in our squad than ever before .
Just my opinion on this seasons players to date
1. Jack Butland ..a tremendous prospect who will only get better with experience and his form at Norwich was as good a keepers as i have seen in years
2. Glen Johnson..looks composed and loves to get forward...a good solid start
3. Erik Pieters ...ok but has struggled through lack of help getting back when opponents attack
4. Marc Muniesa..good start what he lacks in height makes up in distribution
5. Geoff Cameron...again solid start but not his preferred position
6. Van Ginkel... shown form in patches but want him to dictate play more
7.Glen Whelan..as good as glen can be...solid
8 Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen
9. Diouff...troublesome and busy a fine start
10 Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3
11..Joselu..nice touches/technique...get his first goal and i think hes away
12 Ireland..superb attacking play always looking for the forwards...excellent
13 Shaqiri..great pace and a left peg to die for...massive prospect
not mentionng the Luton game
to sum up ..we have massive potential ...just hope we gel sooner rather than later
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Post by block29cb on Aug 27, 2015 19:59:02 GMT
We've played two sides Spurs and Liverpool who we have matched on the day and should be competing at the same end of the table come April/May. Norwich away was a good point to gain and may come vitality important when we compare teams who slip up there in the coming months. A win on Saturday and a good performance and we'll all be having an enjoyable two weeks away from Stoke.
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 27, 2015 20:25:38 GMT
ATM we are scraping points albeit with not playing well. we need time as a team to gel and find a formula system . We do have more talent in our squad than ever before . Just my opinion on this seasons players to date 1. Jack Butland ..a tremendous prospect who will only get better with experience and his form at Norwich was as good a keepers as i have seen in years 2. Glen Johnson..looks composed and loves to get forward...a good solid start 3. Erik Pieters ...ok but has struggled through lack of help getting back when opponents attack 4. Marc Muniesa..good start what he lacks in height makes up in distribution 5. Geoff Cameron...again solid start but not his preferred position 6. Van Ginkel... shown form in patches but want him to dictate play more 7.Glen Whelan..as good as glen can be...solid 8 Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen 9. Diouff...troublesome and busy a fine start 10 Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3 11..Joselu..nice touches/technique...get his first goal and i think hes away 12 Ireland..superb attacking play always looking for the forwards...excellent 13 Shaqiri..great pace and a left peg to die for...massive prospect not mentionng the Luton game to sum up ..we have massive potential ...just hope we gel sooner rather than later Do we have more talent thanever before? The spine of our team at the start of last year: Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Nzonzi(9 out of 10) This year: Butland, Muni, Cameron, VG(4 out of 10) - just not good enough at this level for me |
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Post by prettything on Aug 27, 2015 20:33:05 GMT
Huth wasn't fit this time last season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 20:34:21 GMT
ATM we are scraping points albeit with not playing well. we need time as a team to gel and find a formula system . We do have more talent in our squad than ever before . Just my opinion on this seasons players to date 1. Jack Butland ..a tremendous prospect who will only get better with experience and his form at Norwich was as good a keepers as i have seen in years 2. Glen Johnson..looks composed and loves to get forward...a good solid start 3. Erik Pieters ...ok but has struggled through lack of help getting back when opponents attack 4. Marc Muniesa..good start what he lacks in height makes up in distribution 5. Geoff Cameron...again solid start but not his preferred position 6. Van Ginkel... shown form in patches but want him to dictate play more 7.Glen Whelan..as good as glen can be...solid 8 Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen 9. Diouff...troublesome and busy a fine start 10 Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3 11..Joselu..nice touches/technique...get his first goal and i think hes away 12 Ireland..superb attacking play always looking for the forwards...excellent 13 Shaqiri..great pace and a left peg to die for...massive prospect not mentionng the Luton game to sum up ..we have massive potential ...just hope we gel sooner rather than later Do we have more talent thanever before? The spine of our team at the start of last year: Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Nzonzi(9 out of 10) This year: Butland, Muni, Cameron, VG(4 out of 10) - just not good enough at this level for me [/quHi I loved Huthh but can you tell me how many games he played for us last season. Spine my arse! |
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 27, 2015 20:39:40 GMT
ATM we are scraping points albeit with not playing well. we need time as a team to gel and find a formula system . We do have more talent in our squad than ever before . Just my opinion on this seasons players to date 1. Jack Butland ..a tremendous prospect who will only get better with experience and his form at Norwich was as good a keepers as i have seen in years 2. Glen Johnson..looks composed and loves to get forward...a good solid start 3. Erik Pieters ...ok but has struggled through lack of help getting back when opponents attack 4. Marc Muniesa..good start what he lacks in height makes up in distribution 5. Geoff Cameron...again solid start but not his preferred position 6. Van Ginkel... shown form in patches but want him to dictate play more 7.Glen Whelan..as good as glen can be...solid 8 Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen 9. Diouff...troublesome and busy a fine start 10 Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3 11..Joselu..nice touches/technique...get his first goal and i think hes away 12 Ireland..superb attacking play always looking for the forwards...excellent 13 Shaqiri..great pace and a left peg to die for...massive prospect not mentionng the Luton game to sum up ..we have massive potential ...just hope we gel sooner rather than later Do we have more talent thanever before? The spine of our team at the start of last year: Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Nzonzi(9 out of 10) This year: Butland, Muni, Cameron, VG(4 out of 10) - just not good enough at this level for me Huth didn't play last season (apart from one sub appearance). Shawcross will be back(pardon the pun) Butland not doing to bad his he? |
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 27, 2015 20:44:22 GMT
A lot of the carpers on Oatcake were critical of N'Zonzi 12 months ago, saying he was too negative. MH and his team got him playing much better and they will do the same with the present squad.
Butland is putting in performances so far this season, every bit as good as Begovic last season, who was not as good as the previous season.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2015 20:48:38 GMT
ATM we are scraping points albeit with not playing well. we need time as a team to gel and find a formula system . We do have more talent in our squad than ever before . Just my opinion on this seasons players to date 1. Jack Butland ..a tremendous prospect who will only get better with experience and his form at Norwich was as good a keepers as i have seen in years 2. Glen Johnson..looks composed and loves to get forward...a good solid start 3. Erik Pieters ...ok but has struggled through lack of help getting back when opponents attack 4. Marc Muniesa..good start what he lacks in height makes up in distribution 5. Geoff Cameron...again solid start but not his preferred position 6. Van Ginkel... shown form in patches but want him to dictate play more 7.Glen Whelan..as good as glen can be...solid 8 Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen 9. Diouff...troublesome and busy a fine start 10 Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3 11..Joselu..nice touches/technique...get his first goal and i think hes away 12 Ireland..superb attacking play always looking for the forwards...excellent 13 Shaqiri..great pace and a left peg to die for...massive prospect not mentionng the Luton game to sum up ..we have massive potential ...just hope we gel sooner rather than later "Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen"? Really? Whelan or Johnson? For me he's like neither. "Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3" Have you been paying attention to Arnie? A mardarse? And not helping Pieters? |
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 27, 2015 20:50:54 GMT
Do we have more talent thanever before? The spine of our team at the start of last year: Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Nzonzi(9 out of 10) This year: Butland, Muni, Cameron, VG(4 out of 10) - just not good enough at this level for me [/quHi I loved Huthh but can you tell me how many games he played for us last season. Spine my arse! Fair enough but the OP was about informing us that we have more talent than ever before within our ranks/squad. Do you think the spine of our team is better than this time last year? Do you think Cameron, Muni & VG are better than anything we have ever had before |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 27, 2015 21:19:18 GMT
ATM we are scraping points albeit with not playing well. we need time as a team to gel and find a formula system . We do have more talent in our squad than ever before . Just my opinion on this seasons players to date 1. Jack Butland ..a tremendous prospect who will only get better with experience and his form at Norwich was as good a keepers as i have seen in years 2. Glen Johnson..looks composed and loves to get forward...a good solid start 3. Erik Pieters ...ok but has struggled through lack of help getting back when opponents attack 4. Marc Muniesa..good start what he lacks in height makes up in distribution 5. Geoff Cameron...again solid start but not his preferred position 6. Van Ginkel... shown form in patches but want him to dictate play more 7.Glen Whelan..as good as glen can be...solid 8 Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen 9. Diouff...troublesome and busy a fine start 10 Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3 11..Joselu..nice touches/technique...get his first goal and i think hes away 12 Ireland..superb attacking play always looking for the forwards...excellent 13 Shaqiri..great pace and a left peg to die for...massive prospect not mentionng the Luton game to sum up ..we have massive potential ...just hope we gel sooner rather than later Do we have more talent thanever before? The spine of our team at the start of last year: Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Nzonzi(9 out of 10) This year: Butland, Muni, Cameron, VG(4 out of 10) - just not good enough at this level for me [/quote Huth wasn't part of the spine and hadn't been for some time and you missed out Whelan, also where are those ratings from, thin air? |
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Post by robstokie on Aug 27, 2015 21:22:26 GMT
ATM we are scraping points albeit with not playing well. we need time as a team to gel and find a formula system . We do have more talent in our squad than ever before . Just my opinion on this seasons players to date 1. Jack Butland ..a tremendous prospect who will only get better with experience and his form at Norwich was as good a keepers as i have seen in years 2. Glen Johnson..looks composed and loves to get forward...a good solid start 3. Erik Pieters ...ok but has struggled through lack of help getting back when opponents attack 4. Marc Muniesa..good start what he lacks in height makes up in distribution 5. Geoff Cameron...again solid start but not his preferred position 6. Van Ginkel... shown form in patches but want him to dictate play more 7.Glen Whelan..as good as glen can be...solid 8 Affeley...too much in the same mould as Glen 9. Diouff...troublesome and busy a fine start 10 Arnie...Good when in the mood but too mard arsy see 3 11..Joselu..nice touches/technique...get his first goal and i think hes away 12 Ireland..superb attacking play always looking for the forwards...excellent 13 Shaqiri..great pace and a left peg to die for...massive prospect not mentionng the Luton game to sum up ..we have massive potential ...just hope we gel sooner rather than later If we had kept the Zonz and had proper cover for Ryan (GCams done alright, but its no replacement for an out-and-out nuts and bolts centre-half like Ryan), we would have one hell of a team this season. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 27, 2015 21:39:33 GMT
Do we have more talent thanever before? The spine of our team at the start of last year: Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Nzonzi(9 out of 10) This year: Butland, Muni, Cameron, VG(4 out of 10) - just not good enough at this level for me [/quote Huth wasn't part of the spine and hadn't been for some time and you missed out Whelan, also where are those ratings from, thin air? Rating each player out of 2.5 Bego - 2.0, Shawcross 2.5, Huth 2.0, Nzonzi 2.5 = 9.0 Butland - 2.0. Muni 1.0, Cameron 1.0, VG 0.00001(rounded down to zero) = 4.0 And you thought those figures were just pulled from thin air  |
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 27, 2015 23:32:06 GMT
We went 2 seasons without Huth and did fine. He hasn't been part of our spine since Hughes joined.
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