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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 10:18:59 GMT
Looks like a roll call of West Brom fans turning up to enjoy a Pulis away day spectacular would be quicker to complete. Any idea why so few are making the short journey? I don't think Stoke fans have an awful lot to shout about away followings under either manager in the Premier League era.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 10:20:36 GMT
Looks like a roll call of West Brom fans turning up to enjoy a Pulis away day spectacular would be quicker to complete. Any idea why so few are making the short journey? I don't think Stoke fans have an awful lot to shout about away followings under either manager in the Premier League era. West Brom have always had a decent following to Stoke though. Before today anyway. Any thoughts on this?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 10:26:17 GMT
I don't think Stoke fans have an awful lot to shout about away followings under either manager in the Premier League era. West Brom have always had a decent following to Stoke though. Before today anyway. Any thoughts on this? I can remember them not selling out before. Like us they have a pretty shitty away following. They used to say they didn't like watching our hoofball or some sort of nonsense.
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Post by march4 on Aug 29, 2015 10:32:22 GMT
The big day has arrived.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 10:34:26 GMT
Why do you think it's 'the big day'?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 10:36:50 GMT
Why do you think it's 'the big day'? You would think that most would be focused on our record signing making his home debut wouldn't you Joe?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 10:40:21 GMT
Why do you think it's 'the big day'? You would think that most would be focused on our record signing making his home debut wouldn't you Joe? Lets see how The Marksman sees it.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 10:45:24 GMT
Why do you think it's 'the big day'? You would think that most would be focused on our record signing making his home debut wouldn't you Joe? And a home game against a side we have a chance of beating. And the chance to see if we can get our first win of the season.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 10:45:24 GMT
West Brom have always had a decent following to Stoke though. Before today anyway. Any thoughts on this? I can remember them not selling out before. Like us they have a pretty shitty away following. They used to say they didn't like watching our hoofball or some sort of nonsense. It wouldn't be that far fetched to suggest it looks like many are being good to their word. The Pulis brand of football does have this effect it seems. Obviously the return of Premier League football brought the support that had deserted the club out of the woodwork but it was dwindling away again slowly but surely. Goodness knows how many more would have not renewed their season tickets had St Peter not acted. Think what you may of the bloke but his way of destroying a game of football as an exciting view is something that many do not appreciate. Anyway I cant believe we are not all jizzing at being able to welcome back the tactical genius Kempy Kempo! Some seem to have forgotten this as much as the fact that our record signing is making his home debut today! Looking forward to your critique. You know how highly I value it!
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 10:47:41 GMT
I can remember them not selling out before. Like us they have a pretty shitty away following. They used to say they didn't like watching our hoofball or some sort of nonsense. It wouldn't be that far fetched to suggest it looks like many are being good to their word. The Pulis brand of football does have this effect it seems. Obviously the return of Premier League football brought the support that had deserted the club out of the woodwork but it was dwindling away again slowly but surely. Goodness knows how many more would have not renewed their season tickets had St Peter not acted. Think what you may of the bloke but his way of destroying a game of football as an exciting view is something that many do not appreciate. Anyway I cant believe we are not all jazzing at being able to welcome back the tactical genius Kempy Kempo! Some seem to have forgotten this as much as the fact that our record signing is making his home debut today! Kempy loves dogs
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 10:52:54 GMT
I can remember them not selling out before. Like us they have a pretty shitty away following. They used to say they didn't like watching our hoofball or some sort of nonsense. It wouldn't be that far fetched to suggest it looks like many are being good to their word. The Pulis brand of football does have this effect it seems. Obviously the return of Premier League football brought the support that had deserted the club out of the woodwork but it was dwindling away again slowly but surely. Goodness knows how many more would have not renewed their season tickets had St Peter not acted. Think what you may of the bloke but his way of destroying a game of football as an exciting view is something that many do not appreciate. Anyway I cant believe we are not all jazzing at being able to welcome back the tactical genius Kempy Kempo! Some seem to have forgotten this as much as the fact that our record signing is making his home debut today! Looking forward to your critique. You know how highly I value it! Wont it feel weird in about 25 years when you're sat in your armchair reminiscing with the Grandkids about Stoke teams past and the record books are telling them a beautiful return from oblivion and their grumpy arse Granddad is telling them about this wretched time to be a Stoke fan?
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Post by Beardy200 on Aug 29, 2015 11:06:05 GMT
You would think that most would be focused on our record signing making his home debut wouldn't you Joe? And a home game against a side we have a chance of beating. And the chance to see if we can get our first win of the season. Personally I can manage to focus on all of them including welcoming Pulis back. They are not either/or factors.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 11:06:57 GMT
It wouldn't be that far fetched to suggest it looks like many are being good to their word. The Pulis brand of football does have this effect it seems. Obviously the return of Premier League football brought the support that had deserted the club out of the woodwork but it was dwindling away again slowly but surely. Goodness knows how many more would have not renewed their season tickets had St Peter not acted. Think what you may of the bloke but his way of destroying a game of football as an exciting view is something that many do not appreciate. Anyway I cant believe we are not all jazzing at being able to welcome back the tactical genius Kempy Kempo! Some seem to have forgotten this as much as the fact that our record signing is making his home debut today! Looking forward to your critique. You know how highly I value it! Wont it feel weird in about 25 years when you're sat in your armchair reminiscing with the Grandkids about Stoke teams past and the record books are telling them a beautiful return from oblivion and their grumpy arse Granddad is telling them about this wretched time to be a Stoke fan? I think we have had this conversation a thousand times without me having to reply again to your default answer that avoids answering the actual point. They will have the same pleasure from the exploits as an exile wont they? Much of Pulisball is at its most enjoyable read not watched. I'm sure in the light of the last couple of seasons you agree. So what is your opinion on the crowd impact?
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Post by philm87 on Aug 29, 2015 11:12:33 GMT
Why do you think it's 'the big day'? You would think that most would be focused on our record signing making his home debut wouldn't you Joe? Yeah why aren't you focusing on that instead?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 11:20:28 GMT
Now you may be shallow enough to have a personal hatred for people that you don't personally know but please do not tar me with the same brush. There is not one single post that I ever made criticising Tony Pulis as a human being. I have been extremely critical of his methods in a football context. Go figure the difference and try and rationalise with yourself what there is in a completely neutral couple of posts on the subject of a reception for the bloke that has provoked you to post that! Well there must be some other explanation I am missing then? Your long standing and obsessive agenda against him cannot be explained in reference to any ''football context'' as you put it. You support Stoke City and this guy is a genuine Stoke City legend. The man won us promotion, kept us up comfortably, established us in the Premier League, signed legends like Shawcross and Fuller, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final ... on this basis it cannot be a ''football context'' that explains your obvious dislike for him and your smug contempt for anyone who recognises his role in our history and our recent success. The reason you don't like him is because not liking him has become part of your identity. It has no basis in reason and very little basis in any ''football context''. The fact that you have not met him in person is irrelevant also, given that nobody on here has met Margaret Thatcher either. I just did focus on it. I probably also reminded you of the fact. I didn't reply to your latest attempt to put words into my mouth and express my thoughts on my behalf did I? I don't dislike Tony Pulis as a man. It doesn't matter how many times you say it. I do not know him and your Thatcher reference is meaningless. Thatcher could be judged on her human values that she inflicted by virtue of her politics. If you don't understand the difference you shouldn't try to outsmart yourself by raising the comparison to a football manager whose style of football I don't appreciate or rate. Your ignorance of the difference between the life influencing actions of a Prime Minister and not enjoying a style of football hardly feels me with confidence that you have the shoe size to run around to start summing up my thoughts or anyone elses. I would stick with expressing your own views if I was you.
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Post by philm87 on Aug 29, 2015 11:24:28 GMT
Well there must be some other explanation I am missing then? Your long standing and obsessive agenda against him cannot be explained in reference to any ''football context'' as you put it. You support Stoke City and this guy is a genuine Stoke City legend. The man won us promotion, kept us up comfortably, established us in the Premier League, signed legends like Shawcross and Fuller, got us to our first ever FA Cup Final ... on this basis it cannot be a ''football context'' that explains your obvious dislike for him and your smug contempt for anyone who recognises his role in our history and our recent success. The reason you don't like him is because not liking him has become part of your identity. It has no basis in reason and very little basis in any ''football context''. The fact that you have not met him in person is irrelevant also, given that nobody on here has met Margaret Thatcher either. I just did focus on it. I probably also reminded you of the fact. I didn't reply to your latest attempt to put words into my mouth and express my thoughts on my behalf did I? But if you are so indifferent to this issue, you made a couple of ''neutral'' comments as you say, why do you try and argue with anyone who has a fair word to say against Pulis? Why would this issue consume so much of your time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 11:25:05 GMT
The more I read of this thread the more it becomes 'classic Stoke on Trent'
i.e. a big fight over pretty much nothing in an empty room
jesus wept !
Tony Pulis = legend - got us pretty near to where we are now - Im forever grateful for his efforts
Mark Hughes = the next step on our journey
both extremely good at their jobs - both proven but, using different methods
why do people seemingly struggle to reconcile this ?
pasted off another thread - applies to this one too
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Post by march4 on Aug 29, 2015 11:29:18 GMT
Today, let's unite as one to give TP the 30 second rousing reception he deserves.
And then, together, spend 2 hours roaring SCFC to a thrilling three points.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 11:37:14 GMT
Today, let's unite as one to give TP the 30 second rousing reception he deserves. And then, together, spend 2 hours roaring SCFC to a thrilling three points. If we win by more than one I hope it doesn't ruin your big day too much.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 29, 2015 11:41:57 GMT
The more I read of this thread the more it becomes 'classic Stoke on Trent' i.e. a big fight over pretty much nothing in an empty room jesus wept ! Tony Pulis = legend - got us pretty near to where we are now - Im forever grateful for his efforts Mark Hughes = the next step on our journey both extremely good at their jobs - both proven but, using different methods why do people seemingly struggle to reconcile this ? pasted off another thread - applies to this one too Thank God you pasted it on two threads Tone, I was worried someone might miss out on the zen wisdom you so selflessly dispense to us, the little people.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 11:42:19 GMT
I just did focus on it. I probably also reminded you of the fact. I didn't reply to your latest attempt to put words into my mouth and express my thoughts on my behalf did I? But if you are so indifferent to this issue, you made a couple of ''neutral'' comments as you say, why do you try and argue with anyone who has a fair word to say against Pulis? Why would this issue consume so much of your time? I haven't argued with anyone. I have had a laugh with Sheiky about it all. We enjoy a mickey take out of each other. Im sure it bores you but there you go. Again, best worry about yourself and about how much time it has consumed of your own rather than mine. My contributions are quite minimal and I haven't said a single word against people wanting to applaud or otherwise Pulis. I don't care if they do or they don't and unlike some won't be offended either way. As I have said previously Im just pleased he is in the opposition technical area and we have Mark Hughes in ours.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 11:47:38 GMT
Wont it feel weird in about 25 years when you're sat in your armchair reminiscing with the Grandkids about Stoke teams past and the record books are telling them a beautiful return from oblivion and their grumpy arse Granddad is telling them about this wretched time to be a Stoke fan? So what is your opinion on the crowd impact? He doubled the crowd.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 29, 2015 12:02:41 GMT
So what is your opinion on the crowd impact? He doubled the crowd. You missed out my point. I'm not surprised and in fairness you have answered perfectly well by omission.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 12:22:06 GMT
You missed out my point. I'm not surprised and in fairness you have answered perfectly well by omission. Well the crowds were between 12 and 14 when he took over and between 26 and 27 when he left. If a few fair weather's packed in because they hated Pulis more than they loved Stoke, what of it?
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 29, 2015 12:47:57 GMT
You missed out my point. I'm not surprised and in fairness you have answered perfectly well by omission. Well the crowds were between 12 and 14 when he took over and between 26 and 27 when he left. If a few fair weather's packed in because they hated Pulis more than they loved Stoke, what of it? Agreed. Didn't keep them away did it? He brought more people to the stadium.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 29, 2015 15:00:52 GMT
Some losers on this thread need to think about themselves here. TP comes and gets his players to wind up Stoke and he is always going to get the 3 points. Suck his cock all you want but hes no longer anything to do with Stoke.
Hang your heads in shame. Theres a time and a place for respect and its NOT when we are playing his current team
IDIOTS
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Post by Zero on Aug 29, 2015 16:29:13 GMT
Some losers on this thread need to think about themselves here. TP comes and gets his players to wind up Stoke and he is always going to get the 3 points. Suck his cock all you want but hes no longer anything to do with Stoke. Hang your heads in shame. Theres a time and a place for respect and its NOT when we are playing his current team IDIOTS This match is a turning point: time to pick a side and support them. Surely the defeat has less to do with the fanbase having various different views on Tony Pulis and more with the match, which did of course involve Tony Pulis, as well as a bunch of players for Stoke, frequently from elsewhere. If they're supporting the club for the history, then they might well like Pulis, if they're supporting the club for the current team merely then they can just as much stop doing so, in any case that's probably not who's being addressed. That Stoke lost to Pulis, again, need not imply that he is not respected, nor that this is a decisive question in any sense. Obviously a team on the field is conditioned on the whole by the manager while players usually are adjuncts, so it would be strange if supporters who had supported Pulis' team and the manager for years - at times known during that era for the passion of the support which might have had something to do with Pulis and their team, given that such is hardly found everywhere - at once decided to completely disregard that that happened, acknowledging which I think is most of what's being proposed.
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Post by rambo61 on Aug 29, 2015 18:03:06 GMT
Does anyone still think Pulis gives a fuck about Stoke? Watch the twat trying to get Afeley sent off then reassess..he is now a West Brom manager..thank fuck. Must be really proud of his team feigning injury and time wasting against 9 men.What a fucking embarrassment!!!!
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Post by knowles on Aug 29, 2015 18:12:24 GMT
Excellent ovation for him today, but a dire performance from his side.
I would be more worried as a West Brom fan tonight than I am a Stokie.
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Post by Zero on Aug 29, 2015 18:16:17 GMT
Does anyone still think Pulis gives a fuck about Stoke? It might be a period which he regards as having been significant, but it wouldn't be a surprise if there was a degree of animosity as well towards the club and fans. It hasn't hindered him against them yet, of course. He's managing against them, though, if that's what you mean, obviously this will mean something although obviously his relation to the club would be unlikely to be wholly positive. Of course, if there were two more men they would be Arsenal.
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