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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 26, 2015 11:06:53 GMT
I'm not sure I took the moral high ground? I said the blame for the goal for me lay mostly at the ground of Wilson because he's failed to track his man. Your saviour Bards wasn't brilliant in all that either. I think most of it lies with Bardsley. He nodded off, Geoff had to be stronger and Wolly and Wilson had to be closer together. From all 4 of then it was 4 basic schoolboy errors that sums them all up. Not good enough. Wooly had to go out to make sure Bardley had cover. Wooly's position was fine. Bardley was at fault as was Wilson not dealing with the cross. |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 26, 2015 11:07:52 GMT
Isn't going to happen though is it? Why? Because the management team appear to be happy with what they've got - or so it appears. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2015 11:15:00 GMT
I think most of it lies with Bardsley. He nodded off, Geoff had to be stronger and Wolly and Wilson had to be closer together. From all 4 of then it was 4 basic schoolboy errors that sums them all up. Not good enough. Wooly had to go out to make sure Bardley had cover. Wooly's position was fine. Bardley was at fault as was Wilson not dealing with the cross. Bardsley should deal with the cross. Wolly should then deal with it. Wilson should then deal with it. The ball should never been in a position to get crossed to though.... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2015 11:15:20 GMT
Because the management team appear to be happy with what they've got - or so it appears. I'm not so sure. And if they are, well yeah. |
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Post by liathroid on Aug 26, 2015 11:19:44 GMT
Wooly had to go out to make sure Bardley had cover. Wooly's position was fine. Bardley was at fault as was Wilson not dealing with the cross. Bardsley should deal with the cross. Wolly should then deal with it. Wilson should then deal with it. The ball should never been in a position to get crossed to though.... should Given not have saved it then   |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2015 11:24:59 GMT
Bardsley should deal with the cross. Wolly should then deal with it. Wilson should then deal with it. The ball should never been in a position to get crossed to though.... should Given not have saved it then Fuck it, why not? No! |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 26, 2015 11:27:08 GMT
No, he was not excellent
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 26, 2015 11:31:31 GMT
I don't remember you pinning blame on Sidwell who was rolled far too easily on the Coutinho goal. Funny how certain minds pick and choose who they want to pin blame on. For me, most of it lies with Wilson. As a centre half in that situation, you MUST anticipate a cross coming in. I am not sure Cameron's mistake is anywhere near the same level as Wilson's. Why do I feel this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that if Cameron had missed, you'd have smiled more than when he scored? I really hope I'm wrong Bayern, I really hope so lad. Geoff was rolled far more easily than Sidwell for my money. Also think it's one thing to be rolled by a world-class player and another to be done by a bloke playing for a team currently 90th in the Football League. I thought Geoff on the whole played well last night and took his penalty beautifully, but this high-pitched shrieking of "WITCH!" every time anyone criticises any aspect of his game is getting embarrassing now. No it isn't.The embarrassing part is the repeated failure to give praise to certain players no matter how they perform. |
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Post by rognix on Aug 26, 2015 11:35:34 GMT
Geoff is a quality footballer and athlete, he should be played in the box to box role. Lay off Wolly , it was Bardsley fault the goal , no question.
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Post by whydelilah on Aug 26, 2015 11:37:03 GMT
Nice to hear Geoff is still delivering the goods.
I haven't seen their goal so can't comment but I know of at least one poster on here who is criticising Geoff for a mistake in midfield who wouldn't have a bad word said about Whelan when I pointed out sloppy mistakes he made against Spurs.
Maybe mistakes are ok if our keeper pulls out a worldy to keep us out of the shit?
Much love from Sunny Florida.
Peace out.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 26, 2015 11:40:00 GMT
Nice to hear Geoff is still delivering the goods. I haven't seen their goal so can't comment but I know of at least one poster on here who is criticising Geoff for a mistake in midfield who wouldn't have a bad word said about Whelan when I pointed out sloppy mistakes he made against Spurs. Maybe mistakes are ok if our keeper pulls out a worldy to keep us out of the shit? Much love from Sunny Florida. Peace out. Return of the Mack! Return of the Mack! You blame Whelan for the rain and the fact that they don't make blue smarties anymore. I watched the Spurs highlights again and to blame him for the Chadli chance is embarrassing. Try not to get eaten by an alligator.  |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 26, 2015 11:40:35 GMT
Geoff was rolled far more easily than Sidwell for my money. Also think it's one thing to be rolled by a world-class player and another to be done by a bloke playing for a team currently 90th in the Football League. I thought Geoff on the whole played well last night and took his penalty beautifully, but this high-pitched shrieking of "WITCH!" every time anyone criticises any aspect of his game is getting embarrassing now. No it isn't.The embarrassing part is the repeated failure to give praise to certain players no matter how they perform. That is embarrassing I agree. It's also something I'm not guilty of, so I don't know why you're quoting me. |
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 26, 2015 11:48:27 GMT
should Given not have saved it then Fuck it, why not? No! You really are a proper twonk at times. Why not blame Pieters for the poor throw in, or blame Joselu who flicked on (in his own half) then had to chase himself because nobody was there (where were Walters or Diouf, is it there fault too?) that resulted in them breaking forward through midfield (guess thats where you are blaming Geoff, even though Ireland and Sidwell abandoned ship, them too?), or that Wilson had been sucked to the left to cover Pieters original throw in, forcing Wolly inside (so thats his fault), and Bardsley wandered into centre half leaving his man wide open (thats deffo his fault) The goal came from our throw in halfway in our own half on the left! With a minute left it should have been hoofed down into the corner (Pieters to Wilson, bang, probably out of play but preferable to the eventual outcome) Either way blaming Cameron is fecking ridiculous, but I guess more opportunity to spout bollocks and spam another thread Stoke and Villa made me not win over £300 from a £2 accy the bastards, however my anger at the Luton late goal was calmed when I saw that Villa had let me down as well over 90 mins |
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 26, 2015 11:56:30 GMT
I blame the pitch.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 26, 2015 11:59:48 GMT
So getting turned like you're not there and thus allowing the move to continue isn't being at fault? He was partially at fault with 3 others who are error prone messes too. I was kind of joking? Are there any Stoke players you actually like, you miserable little shit?  |
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Aug 26, 2015 12:02:00 GMT
CDM is Camo's best position in my view . He has a bit of steel and at the moment MVG isn't up to speed and gives no protection to the back four. Bring in Wilson at CB until Shawcross is back .We need shoring up in defence and this is possibly the best option. JMHO.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Aug 26, 2015 12:05:28 GMT
Midfield is undoubtedly his best position for us and at the moment would add steel to the midfield until Van Ginkel sorts himself out. Wilson is a better defender than Geoff so makes sense all ways round. Wrong, Wilson is utter shite... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2015 12:08:41 GMT
You really are a proper twonk at times. Why not blame Pieters for the poor throw in, or blame Joselu who flicked on (in his own half) then had to chase himself because nobody was there (where were Walters or Diouf, is it there fault too?) that resulted in them breaking forward through midfield (guess thats where you are blaming Geoff, even though Ireland and Sidwell abandoned ship, them too?), or that Wilson had been sucked to the left to cover Pieters original throw in, forcing Wolly inside (so thats his fault), and Bardsley wandered into centre half leaving his man wide open (thats deffo his fault) The goal came from our throw in halfway in our own half on the left! With a minute left it should have been hoofed down into the corner (Pieters to Wilson, bang, probably out of play but preferable to the eventual outcome) Either way blaming Cameron is fecking ridiculous, but I guess more opportunity to spout bollocks and spam another thread Stoke and Villa made me not win over £300 from a £2 accy the bastards, however my anger at the Luton late goal was calmed when I saw that Villa had let me down as well over 90 mins Hang on! Loads of people are blaming Geoff, it's not my fault people keep targetting me! He got done, like lots of others for the goal. But like Rob says this whole defending Cameron until the death is getting very tedious and massively reminiscent of the defence of Danny Collins. |
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Post by whydelilah on Aug 26, 2015 12:12:45 GMT
Nice to hear Geoff is still delivering the goods. I haven't seen their goal so can't comment but I know of at least one poster on here who is criticising Geoff for a mistake in midfield who wouldn't have a bad word said about Whelan when I pointed out sloppy mistakes he made against Spurs. Maybe mistakes are ok if our keeper pulls out a worldy to keep us out of the shit? Much love from Sunny Florida. Peace out. Return of the Mack! Return of the Mack! You blame Whelan for the rain and the fact that they don't make blue smarties anymore. I watched the Spurs highlights again and to blame him for the Chadli chance is embarrassing. Try not to get eaten by an alligator. Which was the Chadli chance? The one where Glenn jumped half arsed, with all the might of a big girls blouse, half ducked out before connecting with his back and surrendering possession in a dangerous part of the pitch, which directly led to a great chance for Spurs? I can imagine you taking the same stance if that'd been Geoff  Oh, and cheers. 100% on Alligator alert! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 12:18:03 GMT
He had the right attitude .....no one was excellent
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 26, 2015 12:18:26 GMT
Return of the Mack! Return of the Mack! You blame Whelan for the rain and the fact that they don't make blue smarties anymore. I watched the Spurs highlights again and to blame him for the Chadli chance is embarrassing. Try not to get eaten by an alligator. Which was the Chadli chance? The one where Glenn jumped half arsed, with all the might of a big girls blouse, half ducked out before connecting with his back and surrendering possession in a dangerous part of the pitch, which directly led to a great chance for Spurs? I can imagine you taking the same stance if that'd been Geoff Oh, and cheers. 100% on Alligator alert! Are we talking the one where Eriksen plays a magnificent 80 yard ball that catches our entire team on the hop and Chadli wins a foot race with Whelan before a heavy touch takes it too far towards Butland? And you're taking that as an egregious error by Whelan? Does the fact that nobody else has remotely pointed the finger for that tell you anything? |
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 26, 2015 12:25:18 GMT
He's better in there than at centre half, that's for sure.
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 26, 2015 12:25:34 GMT
Your boy Wils was at fault for their goal, not Geoff. My boy Wils? You really don't know me do you! Geoff got rolled in the middle of the park like he wasn't there. He either needed to step off and jockey, win the ball or smash him Then Bardsley nodded off. And then Wilson and his mate Wolly came into play. As I've said, the same old errors from the same old people. Don't know you? Hate to break it to you brother, but your not a real tough nut to crack. It's not like your 'deep' or anything. You just have a deep rooted hatred for Geoff, You have repeatedly called for Wilson to play over Geoff, who you describe as a 'shit footballer'. So when Geoff plays great and Wilson plays like shit, including his shit play that cost us a goal, that makes Wils 'your boy'. |
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Post by datguy on Aug 26, 2015 12:37:05 GMT
Isn't going to happen though is it? Why? Signing for Villa imminent |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 26, 2015 12:43:54 GMT
No it isn't.The embarrassing part is the repeated failure to give praise to certain players no matter how they perform. That is embarrassing I agree. It's also something I'm not guilty of, so I don't know why you're quoting me. Wasn't accusing you,just quoted you ref what you found embarrassing. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 26, 2015 12:51:41 GMT
That is embarrassing I agree. It's also something I'm not guilty of, so I don't know why you're quoting me. Wasn't accusing you,just quoted you ref what you found embarrassing. I think both are embarrassing. The inability to give credit and the refusal to admit to weaknesses. |
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Post by metalhead on Aug 26, 2015 13:04:33 GMT
Isn't going to happen though is it? Why? Because it isn't. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2015 13:15:17 GMT
My boy Wils? You really don't know me do you! Geoff got rolled in the middle of the park like he wasn't there. He either needed to step off and jockey, win the ball or smash him Then Bardsley nodded off. And then Wilson and his mate Wolly came into play. As I've said, the same old errors from the same old people. Don't know you? Hate to break it to you brother, but your not a real tough nut to crack. It's not like your 'deep' or anything. You just have a deep rooted hatred for Geoff, You have repeatedly called for Wilson to play over Geoff, who you describe as a 'shit footballer'. So when Geoff plays great and Wilson plays like shit, including his shit play that cost us a goal, that makes Wils 'your boy'. You really need to scope me a bit more! Because you couldn't be further from the truth! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2015 13:15:39 GMT
What kind of an answer is that? |
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Post by metalhead on Aug 26, 2015 13:30:57 GMT
What kind of an answer is that? The truth? Lescott is very unlikely to sign for us. |
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