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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 18:53:15 GMT
You have one choice only to pick one last player/position to come in this transfer window.
I may be shot, but I'd choose Cattermole we need someone who is going to get stuck in and do the dirty work in the middle. We've too much flair I think, (I'd never thought I would say that).
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Post by dudnostokie on Aug 22, 2015 18:57:23 GMT
Completely agree bud, I don't get the panic mode after today but anyone could see the hole in midfield. It's definitely the position we need to fill.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 22, 2015 18:58:18 GMT
You have one choice only to pick one last player/position to come in this transfer window. I may be shot, but I'd choose Cattermole we need someone who is going to get stuck in and do the dirty work in the middle. We've too much flair I think, (I'd never thought I would say that). I agree with you, but I suspect we are in a minority on here. |
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 22, 2015 19:00:45 GMT
No we're not
It's just that the few who don't agree tend to shout much louder and talk like they were some Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson
Anyone with half a brain can see that we have ABIG PROBLEM in that position which anyone with half a brain should know is vital to a football team
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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 19:41:24 GMT
I was first blaming the defence at first, but they need protection from the middle.
Norwich waltzed through our center midfield today.
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Post by walrus on Aug 22, 2015 19:44:32 GMT
I think you're right that centre midfield is a position we could do with bringing someone in to.
But I think you're dead wrong that Cattermole is a good target.
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Post by huuuuuth on Aug 22, 2015 19:44:12 GMT
We definitely need a dominant midfielder. Thought we were short of a leader in the middle today.
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Aug 22, 2015 19:47:45 GMT
Cattermole? Is it a different Cattermole to the one I saw getting slaughtered for his performances in the opening two games of the season?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 22, 2015 19:50:07 GMT
Cattermole? Is it a different Cattermole to the one I saw getting slaughtered for his performances in the opening two games of the season? Come on Smudge your the manager which position do we need a player for? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 19:51:08 GMT
Cattermole? Is it a different Cattermole to the one I saw getting slaughtered for his performances in the opening two games of the season? Every player has bad games. You could judge Bojan on his first half dozen and think he was a waster. Cattermole is an improvement on Whelan. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 19:51:45 GMT
Cattermole? Is it a different Cattermole to the one I saw getting slaughtered for his performances in the opening two games of the season? That's a good point, mate, but do you think we need a similar type of player? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 19:52:05 GMT
This too much flair argument is bollucks. We've got better footballers. Better players. They're just settling.
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 19:56:17 GMT
This too much flair argument is bollucks. We've got better footballers. Better players. They're just settling. Flair is fine, Jase. It is the physicality that worries me. I can see some of today's players getting a battering vs WBA. They looked so weak. |
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Aug 22, 2015 20:01:03 GMT
If we're picking just one player mine would HAVE to be a centre-back. Don't know who's available though.
We have the players in midfield but not the right blend at the moment.
What we need is a dominant presence in the heart of the defence. Or at least I believe we do.
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 20:02:47 GMT
If we're picking just one player mine would HAVE to be a centre-back. Don't know who's available though. We have the players in midfield but not the right blend at the moment. What we need is a dominant presence in the heart of the defence. Or at least I believe we do. That's not a bad punt either! In truth, I think we need both. |
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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 20:07:11 GMT
I think you're right that centre midfield is a position we could do with bringing someone in to. But I think you're dead wrong that Cattermole is a good target. I'm trying to think who can do the ugly work. |
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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 20:09:09 GMT
I think Cattermole will do this job perfectly that is what he's built for.
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Post by philm87 on Aug 22, 2015 20:11:35 GMT
I don't believe Hughes is that stupid.
Nzonzi was player of the season last year and was arguably the most important player in the team because everything revolved around him in the transition phases. It was obvious losing him would be a big blow and would leave us weaker in that area. If we can spot the problem then I am pretty sure that a bloke who has finished consistently in the top ten of the Premier League with three different clubs would have noticed it.
Which means either 1) He has done his homework on MVG. Obviously, nobody is expecting the guy to be a like-for-like replacement, but Hughes and his scouts must know that MVG is capable of doing a decent enough job in there. We haven't done the same homework on this guy, we have just heard a few good things written about him and are now dismissing him on the basis of 2 below weak performances (I thought he was good on his debut). It could just be he is not 100% matchfit yet, taking time to settle in a new country, a new league, a new team and a new role.
Alternatively, Hughes knows that before the end of the window he is going to have to fill that hole, he just hasn't done it yet because he wants to get the right man.
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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 20:14:38 GMT
I don't believe Hughes is that stupid. Nzonzi was player of the season last year and was arguably the most important player in the team because everything revolved around him in the transition phases. It was obvious losing him would be a big blow and would leave us weaker in that area. If we can spot the problem then I am pretty sure that a bloke who has finished consistently in the top ten of the Premier League with three different clubs would have noticed it. Which means either 1) He has done his homework on MVG. Obviously, nobody is expecting the guy to be a like-for-like replacement, but Hughes and his scouts must know that MVG is capable of doing a decent enough job in there. We haven't done the same homework on this guy, we have just heard a few good things written about him and are now dismissing him on the basis of 2 below weak performances (I thought he was good on his debut). It could just be he is not 100% matchfit yet, taking time to settle in a new country, a new league, a new team and a new role. Alternatively, Hughes knows that before the end of the window he is going to have to fill that hole, he just hasn't done it yet because he wants to get the right man. But MVG is not our player after this season, so another rebuild then after getting him to gel? |
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Post by daviddunn on Aug 22, 2015 20:26:25 GMT
Unfortunately I live only 11 mile from Sunderland and most my mates and family members follow them so I hear and see more about Clattermole than most and believe me he's crap and believe it or not he can be damm right lazy he is not a premiership player end of
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Post by philm87 on Aug 22, 2015 20:26:29 GMT
I don't believe Hughes is that stupid. Nzonzi was player of the season last year and was arguably the most important player in the team because everything revolved around him in the transition phases. It was obvious losing him would be a big blow and would leave us weaker in that area. If we can spot the problem then I am pretty sure that a bloke who has finished consistently in the top ten of the Premier League with three different clubs would have noticed it. Which means either 1) He has done his homework on MVG. Obviously, nobody is expecting the guy to be a like-for-like replacement, but Hughes and his scouts must know that MVG is capable of doing a decent enough job in there. We haven't done the same homework on this guy, we have just heard a few good things written about him and are now dismissing him on the basis of 2 below weak performances (I thought he was good on his debut). It could just be he is not 100% matchfit yet, taking time to settle in a new country, a new league, a new team and a new role. Alternatively, Hughes knows that before the end of the window he is going to have to fill that hole, he just hasn't done it yet because he wants to get the right man. But MVG is not our player after this season, so another rebuild then after getting him to gel? Possibly yes. I don't see that as being a problem though. So long as MVG is a viable short-term solution, the rebuilding can wait. We can't rush rebuilding of that nature. Fonz was such a key player and replacing him like-for-like would cost in the region of £10-15 million I reckon. That sort of rebuilding can't be rushed. |
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Post by stacks on Aug 22, 2015 20:31:17 GMT
You have one choice only to pick one last player/position to come in this transfer window. I may be shot, but I'd choose Cattermole we need someone who is going to get stuck in and do the dirty work in the middle. We've too much flair I think, (I'd never thought I would say that). I've been to the SOL today and cattermole was booked early in the first half for an over zealous challenge where he went through the back of someone. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Its been done to death but the guy really is a liability. You simply cannot trust him. |
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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 20:31:55 GMT
I'm a project manager in the real world, and this would be identified as too high risk, so there has to be a mitigation plan.
That cant be Steve Sidwell, if MVG does not work out.
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Post by ayem on Aug 22, 2015 20:33:45 GMT
We definitely need a dominant midfielder. Thought we were short of a leader in the middle today. Our captain was in the midfield? |
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Post by Boothen on Aug 22, 2015 20:33:30 GMT
You have one choice only to pick one last player/position to come in this transfer window. Anyone, no matter who or the cost? If so then I'd have to say Mario Götze, but the chances of that happening make the chances of anything coming from Mars pale into insignificance. |
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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 20:34:26 GMT
You have one choice only to pick one last player/position to come in this transfer window. I may be shot, but I'd choose Cattermole we need someone who is going to get stuck in and do the dirty work in the middle. We've too much flair I think, (I'd never thought I would say that). I've been to the SOL today and cattermole was booked early in the first half for an over zealous challenge where he went through the back of someone. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Its been done to death but the guy really is a liability. You simply cannot trust him. I think around better playerd, he will fit us. Opinions eh ☺ |
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Post by hatchett on Aug 22, 2015 20:39:43 GMT
You have one choice only to pick one last player/position to come in this transfer window. Anyone, no matter who or the cost? If so then I'd have to say Mario Götze, but the chances of that happening make the chances of anything coming from Mars pale into insignificance. Well I'd have pogba or verratti, but I'm living in the real world, so I'll go for caterrmole. |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 22, 2015 20:44:07 GMT
I think that Hughes has dropped a bollock with Affelay and MVG.
Reckon he thought that one of them could replace NZonzi.
On the evidence so far I suspect that neither of them will[hope to be proved wrong of course]
If Shawcross is out for several months as well then I predict a tough pre-Christmas.
It would not surprise me at all if Ryan doesn't play again this season actually.
We need a leader somewhere ...either midfield or centre-half.
It's early days of course and Sparky teams seem to be late starters ....
We've gone from a team of hard bastards to a team of soft bastards too quickly looking at the immediate picture.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2015 20:48:49 GMT
You have one choice only to pick one last player/position to come in this transfer window. I may be shot, but I'd choose Cattermole we need someone who is going to get stuck in and do the dirty work in the middle. We've too much flair I think, (I'd never thought I would say that). Cattermole, no  But we do need someone alongside Whelan. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2015 20:49:59 GMT
I think that Hughes has dropped a bollock with Affelay and MVG.Reckon he thought that one of them could replace NZonzi. On the evidence so far I suspect that neither of them will[hope to be proved wrong of course] If Shawcross is out for several months as well then I predict a tough pre-Christmas. It would not surprise me at all if Ryan doesn't play again this season actually. We need a leader somewhere ...either midfield or centre-half. It's early days of course and Sparky teams seem to be late starters .... We've gone from a team of hard bastards to a team of soft bastards too quickly looking at the immediate picture. To early to say, Bojan wasn't all that to start with. |
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