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Post by riponstokie on Aug 22, 2015 18:49:16 GMT
Anyone know for 100% why he wasn't in the squad? Obviously he was ill during the weak but I'm not sure he would let that prevent him form playing..unless he was dropped altogether?
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 22, 2015 18:52:47 GMT
If he doesn't play on Tuesday then I'd suspect he's on his way out.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 22, 2015 19:11:24 GMT
If he doesn't play on Tuesday then I'd suspect he's on his way out. I hope he plays on Tuesday and gets some time next Saturday (for us!!) |
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 22, 2015 19:13:49 GMT
If he doesn't play on Tuesday then I'd suspect he's on his way out. I hope he plays on Tuesday and gets some time next Saturday (for us!!) I agree. Whether or not the management do we will have to wait and see, but I wouldn't be wholly shocked to see him go. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 19:16:08 GMT
Never seen a player missed so much as we missed Walters today.
That sloppy horror show should guarantee him everything he wants in his contract.
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Post by marcofstoke on Aug 22, 2015 19:22:42 GMT
Sparky said Walters has had a virus since "a week last Wednesday" and after two days training this week had said that he still wasn't right
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Post by michelle1863 on Aug 22, 2015 19:25:36 GMT
Hughes said he was ill and he wasnt prepared to risk him, but he should play a part on Tuesday....
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Post by thehoof on Aug 22, 2015 22:41:48 GMT
Never seen a player missed so much as we missed Walters today. That sloppy horror show should guarantee him everything he wants in his contract. Bloody hell, March, you have spent all day moaning about the defense, now you think SJW would have made a difference to the defense?I am sure the last time I looked he was a forward? |
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 22:54:31 GMT
Never seen a player missed so much as we missed Walters today. That sloppy horror show should guarantee him everything he wants in his contract. Bloody hell, March, you have spent all day moaning about the defense, now you think SJW would have made a difference to the defense?I am sure the last time I looked he was a forward? Norwich's left back produced more chances than any other Prem player this season (after match stats). Don't think that would have happened with SJW kicking pieces out of him. Every time we launched the ball forwards, it came straight back because no one was winning it and holding it up. That is a job at which SJW excels. Norwich's defence and midfield must have had the most comfortable game of their careers. Our players might have skill but it needs physical strength to earn the right to show your skill. SJW provides that strength and aggression. |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 22, 2015 22:58:33 GMT
Bloody hell, March, you have spent all day moaning about the defense, now you think SJW would have made a difference to the defense?I am sure the last time I looked he was a forward? Norwich's left back produced more chances than any other Prem player this season (after match stats). Don't think that would have happened with SJW kicking pieces out of him. Every time we launched the ball forwards, it came straight back because no one was winning it and holding it up. That is a job at which SJW excels. Norwich's defence and midfield must have had the most comfortable game of their careers. Our players might have skill but it needs physical strength to earn the right to show your skill. SJW provides that strength and aggression. Do you think SJW could have produced the free kick that Shaqiri did? No, me neither  |
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 23:13:03 GMT
Norwich's left back produced more chances than any other Prem player this season (after match stats). Don't think that would have happened with SJW kicking pieces out of him. Every time we launched the ball forwards, it came straight back because no one was winning it and holding it up. That is a job at which SJW excels. Norwich's defence and midfield must have had the most comfortable game of their careers. Our players might have skill but it needs physical strength to earn the right to show your skill. SJW provides that strength and aggression. Do you think SJW could have produced the free kick that Shaqiri did? No, me neither I would like to think there is room for both in the team. From today, Shaq doesn't look like a winger. He just didn't track his full back. He looked better when running at the defence through the middle. |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 22, 2015 23:21:44 GMT
Do you think SJW could have produced the free kick that Shaqiri did? No, me neither I would like to think there is room for both in the team. From today, Shaq doesn't look like a winger. He just didn't track his full back. He looked better when running at the defence through the middle. Shaq is a world class wide player, the trouble today was that Johnson also thought he was a world class wide player. That is an obvious weakness to be exploited by better sides than Norwich. Johnson just needs to play as a full back rather than trying to impress his esteemed right sided team mate with fancy flicks and step overs, he's better than that. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 23:25:48 GMT
I would like to think there is room for both in the team. From today, Shaq doesn't look like a winger. He just didn't track his full back. He looked better when running at the defence through the middle. Shaq is a world class wide player, the trouble today was that Johnson also thought he was a world class wide player. That is an obvious weakness to be exploited by better sides than Norwich. Johnson just needs to play as a full back rather than trying to impress his esteemed right sided team mate with fancy flicks and step overs, he's better than that. World class wide players stop the opposing full back from playing. Shaq showed no instinct to do this and so I feel wide right is not his position. (This is no criticism of him). I can see him playing as an old fashioned inside right with Bojan as inside left. You are right about Johnson, he was poor today but he can't stop both their wide man and full back. |
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 22, 2015 23:40:18 GMT
I think the full back Brady won MOM today(??), but that was because of his handling of Shaq in defence. He didn't venture too far forward other than free kicks.
There was no reason for Shaq to track back, Brady was too scared to leave him and rarely overlapped. The trouble was Johnson decided to neglect his defensive duties and decided he would do his own thing.
I like Johnson by the way and think he's an improvement in the right back position, but today he was poor.
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Aug 22, 2015 23:52:51 GMT
I think the full back Brady won MOM today(??), but that was because of his handling of Shaq in defence. He didn't venture too far forward other than free kicks. There was no reason for Shaq to track back, Brady was too scared to leave him and rarely overlapped. The trouble was Johnson decided to neglect his defensive duties and decided he would do his own thing.
I like Johnson by the way and think he's an improvement in the right back position, but today he was poor. I wonder if Johnson's just trying TOO hard to impress, given that he left Liverpool under something of a cloud? I personally think he's a class act, and if he sticks to his brief, he'll be a great acquisition |
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 23, 2015 0:44:08 GMT
Johnson is an attacking wing back, we need a back 4 not a WB that could teach paul daniels a dissapearing act, his dissapearence stretches the defence. I keep saying it but with him in the team we are going to concede a shit load.
Johnson is suited to a 5-3-2 where the wing backs push forward, he's never in this world a full back. Thing is our best players arnt suited to 5-3-2. I'll say it again, watch what happens if cameron gets injured or suspended and wollscheid comes in to play alongside johnson. Wollscheid will need to cover ground and we all know he cant fucking run it will be footballing suicide, it's bad enough now and cameron can move.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 23, 2015 0:56:10 GMT
Johnson is an attacking wing back, we need a back 4 not a WB that could teach paul daniels a dissapearing act, his dissapearence stretches the defence. I keep saying it but with him in the team we are going to concede a shit load. Johnson is suited to a 5-3-2 where the wing backs push forward, he's never in this world a full back. Thing is our best players arnt suited to 5-3-2. I'll say it again, watch what happens if cameron gets injured or suspended and wollscheid comes in to play alongside johnson. Wollscheid will need to cover ground and we all know he cant fucking run it will be footballing suicide, it's bad enough now and cameron can move. Don't worry it'll be Wilson along side him  |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 23, 2015 1:45:11 GMT
I think the full back Brady won MOM today(??), but that was because of his handling of Shaq in defence. He didn't venture too far forward other than free kicks. There was no reason for Shaq to track back, Brady was too scared to leave him and rarely overlapped. The trouble was Johnson decided to neglect his defensive duties and decided he would do his own thing.
I like Johnson by the way and think he's an improvement in the right back position, but today he was poor. I wonder if Johnson's just trying TOO hard to impress, given that he left Liverpool under something of a cloud? I personally think he's a class act, and if he sticks to his brief, he'll be a great acquisition Erm Wasn't that the compliant when he first signed. Good going forward, not a very good defender. Certainly showed today. |
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Post by mvtt on Aug 23, 2015 5:26:38 GMT
I'm confused, does anybody honestly believe he would've been a better option that shaqiri today?
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Aug 23, 2015 5:48:52 GMT
Never seen a player missed so much as we missed Walters today. That sloppy horror show should guarantee him everything he wants in his contract. The funny thing though March was that yesterday's performance, with The opponents creating many chances and us hanging on was quite reminiscent of a lot of away games under TP, when Jon Walters was very much a permanent fixture in the team. How do you explain that then? |
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 23, 2015 9:07:07 GMT
Johnson is an attacking wing back, we need a back 4 not a WB that could teach paul daniels a dissapearing act, his dissapearence stretches the defence. I keep saying it but with him in the team we are going to concede a shit load. Johnson is suited to a 5-3-2 where the wing backs push forward, he's never in this world a full back. Thing is our best players arnt suited to 5-3-2. I'll say it again, watch what happens if cameron gets injured or suspended and wollscheid comes in to play alongside johnson. Wollscheid will need to cover ground and we all know he cant fucking run it will be footballing suicide, it's bad enough now and cameron can move. Don't worry it'll be Wilson along side him magic  |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 23, 2015 10:40:22 GMT
I'm still not quite sure what the plan is for this season but if it is to pair Shaq and Johnson on the right most of the time I suspect we will have a lot of defensive problems
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Post by mvtt on Aug 23, 2015 17:28:52 GMT
I'm still not quite sure what the plan is for this season but if it is to pair Shaq and Johnson on the right most of the time I suspect we will have a lot of defensive problems That's a double edged sword I'm happy to have. Going forward, they look incredibly dangerous. Once we have Shawcross back, and not a mistake prone Cameron or Wilson, the reward wil absolutely be worth every ounce of risk. I think its worth it even with the mistake prone right cbs that we're currently starting. |
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Post by stokeyouth on Aug 23, 2015 17:30:02 GMT
Never seen a player missed so much as we missed Walters today. That sloppy horror show should guarantee him everything he wants in his contract. Stop trolling you horrible vermin |
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Post by StokieNath on Aug 23, 2015 17:30:46 GMT
Never seen a player missed so much as we missed Walters today. That sloppy horror show should guarantee him everything he wants in his contract. Stop trolling you horrible vermin Come again ? |
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