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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2015 9:39:16 GMT
...with very senior pros having to sit in the stands.
Butland
Johnson-Cameron-Muniesa-Pieters
Whelan-MVG
Ireland
Shaq-Diouf-Arnie
You'd think Given, Wilson, Adam, Afellay, Walters and Joselu would be nailed on.
So room for only one from Bardsley, Wollscheid, Sidwell and Crouch.
Probably Sidwell would be the most use?
And that's with Wingie and Bojan not quite available!
Wonder if Wolly thought he'd bequite so far down the pecking order and Crouch realised his game minutes would be like hen's teeth when he re-signed?
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Post by Stokyo on Aug 22, 2015 9:42:01 GMT
Its a nice problem to have  |
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Post by upthefud on Aug 22, 2015 9:47:20 GMT
Hence why it's common sense that we need to offload instead of having paying first team wages to blokes sat in the stand.
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Aug 22, 2015 9:50:12 GMT
I think Bojan could make the bench perhaps today
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Post by armitagestokie on Aug 22, 2015 10:06:34 GMT
Yeah hope so don't want him playing against Luton....lower teams crocked him last time.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 22, 2015 10:08:04 GMT
Yeah hope so don't want him playing against Luton....lower teams crocked him last time. There was no one near him when he got injured. Oh and the pitch was fine too. |
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Post by feynmann2 on Aug 22, 2015 10:14:06 GMT
...with very senior pros having to sit in the stands. Butland Johnson-Cameron-Muniesa-Pieters Whelan-MVG Ireland Shaq-Diouf-Arnie You'd think Given, Wilson, Adam, Afellay, Walters and Joselu would be nailed on. So room for only one from Bardsley, Wollscheid, Sidwell and Crouch. Probably Sidwell would be the most use? And that's with Wingie and Bojan not quite available! Wonder if Wolly thought he'd bequite so far down the pecking order and Crouch realised his game minutes would be like hen's teeth when he re-signed? It will certainly be interesting and could give a clear picture of who we think might be leaving - for example I wouldn't be surprised to see Crouch instead of Adam, Wolly instead of Wilson and Bojan as an unused sub.... |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 22, 2015 10:14:24 GMT
Hence why it's common sense that we need to offload instead of having paying first team wages to blokes sat in the stand. Easier said than done though. |
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Post by agingerstokie on Aug 22, 2015 10:17:49 GMT
...with very senior pros having to sit in the stands. Butland Johnson-Cameron-Muniesa-Pieters Whelan-MVG Ireland Shaq-Diouf-Arnie You'd think Given, Wilson, Adam, Afellay, Walters and Joselu would be nailed on. So room for only one from Bardsley, Wollscheid, Sidwell and Crouch. Probably Sidwell would be the most use? And that's with Wingie and Bojan not quite available! Wonder if Wolly thought he'd bequite so far down the pecking order and Crouch realised his game minutes would be like hen's teeth when he re-signed? It will certainly be interesting and could give a clear picture of who we think might be leaving - for example I wouldn't be surprised to see Crouch instead of Adam, Wolly instead of Wilson and Bojan as an unused sub.... Adam won't be sold he's just signed a new deal?? |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 22, 2015 10:20:12 GMT
I think Crouch will go. Just always had that feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2015 10:22:31 GMT
Crouch is the obvious one to leave.
Although I'd still back him to bag half a dozen from a very fleeting number of appearances.
Depends what his motivation is I suppose.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2015 10:24:14 GMT
It will certainly be interesting and could give a clear picture of who we think might be leaving - for example I wouldn't be surprised to see Crouch instead of Adam, Wolly instead of Wilson and Bojan as an unused sub.... Is there ever going to be any sense in having both Joselu and Crouchy on the bench though? And you'd think Wilson would be a bench shoo-in, ahead of Wolly, due to his ability to cover other positions, especially left-back. Definitely possible that Bojan could feature on the bench, but just got the impression he was saving him for a start at Luton. But if he were to get on the bench, that'd potentially mean none of Bardsley, Sidwell, Crouch, and Wolly making it! |
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Post by feynmann2 on Aug 22, 2015 10:25:46 GMT
It will certainly be interesting and could give a clear picture of who we think might be leaving - for example I wouldn't be surprised to see Crouch instead of Adam, Wolly instead of Wilson and Bojan as an unused sub.... Adam won't be sold he's just signed a new deal?? Apologies I'd forgotten that...maybe Walters misses out then |
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Post by feynmann2 on Aug 22, 2015 10:29:23 GMT
It will certainly be interesting and could give a clear picture of who we think might be leaving - for example I wouldn't be surprised to see Crouch instead of Adam, Wolly instead of Wilson and Bojan as an unused sub.... Is there ever going to be any sense in having both Joselu and Crouchy on the bench though? And you'd think Wilson would be a bench shoo-in, ahead of Wolly, due to his ability to cover other positions, especially left-back. Definitely possible that Bojan could feature on the bench, but just got the impression he was saving him for a start at Luton. But if he were to get on the bench, that'd potentially mean none of Bardsley, Sidwell, Crouch, and Wolly making it! Wolly on and Muniesa to left back would be the potential solution... Its definitely a conundrum and perhaps suggests that for all the movement in and out, the squad is perhaps not as balanced as we would like |
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 22, 2015 10:30:25 GMT
We have to be careful though last season the bench ended up extremely light weight at some points, chances are ryan wont be named in the 25 before january so space straight away with his removal .sell sidwell no glenn replacement sell bardsley no johnson cover as cameron first choice in centre ,lose diouf or joselu to injury or suspension we need odem or crouch. Bowen stated earlier this week they had the squad covered and were not looking at selling this window and unless a strange unrefusable bid comes in for fringe players and a replacement is ready cant see much change before jan window now.
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Aug 22, 2015 10:30:39 GMT
We currently have 3 players out injured if you count Bojan, that's quite good to be honest, but do people really think we wont be picking up regular injuries/suspensions once the season kicks in to full swing? Get a couple of injuries and youve got a group who can shuffle round to replace players, its also a good argument to say we have different types of players for different positions meaning we can take a horses for courses approach.
Dont forget a lot of these players are current international footballers so having a competitive squad keeps them on their toes and also allows them to be rested should they look jaded etc.
The squads always been this big its just instead of Palacios/Wilkinson/Ness we have Sidwell/Bardsley/Crouch watching on from the stands.
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Post by homer32 on Aug 22, 2015 10:31:11 GMT
Agree with your starting 11 unless he starts with Walters & brings Shaqiri on as the game opens up.So bench will have have g/k, defender 2 midfield & 2 forwards . Midfield will be Adam & Bojan and other forward Joselu. No place for Afellay if Bojan on bench.Wow the strength now is amazing.MVG is in danger of losing his place if he doesn't play well today.
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Post by stokeyouth on Aug 22, 2015 10:34:04 GMT
I always thought Sidwell would leave but we're a little bare in midfield if Whelan/MVG pick up a red/injury because I wouldnt trust Adam or Ireland there long term.
You can defo see one of Crouch/Walters leaving, and I think I'd rather Crouch leave just because Joselu is now the main bench striker/impact and I think Walters can cover the wings aswell, and lower wages..
I also always thought one from Adam and Ireland would leave especially now Afellay seems to be 2nd choice attacking midfielder, however Adams signed a new deal and Irelands playing well.
And when Ryan is back it demotes Cameron to bench(or even midfield?) and then Wilson and one who misses out.
for that reason I can defo see Wilson leaving in Jan with 6 months on his deal
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 22, 2015 10:37:38 GMT
Yeah hope so don't want him playing against Luton....lower teams crocked him last time. There was no one near him when he got injured. Oh and the pitch was fine too.
Not it the case at all. As above, no one near and not a bad surface. No Rochdale lynch mob required.
Pure bad luck. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 22, 2015 10:48:38 GMT
There was no one near him when he got injured. Oh and the pitch was fine too.
Not it the case at all. As above, no one near and not a bad surface. No Rochdale lynch mob required.
Pure bad luck. Yeah, not to know that Bojan was all on his ownsome when he picked up the injury makes you either a dreamer, a wind-up artist or simply a non fan with an agenda against lower league clubs. Or of course simply mistaken? |
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 22, 2015 11:08:29 GMT
It will certainly be interesting and could give a clear picture of who we think might be leaving - for example I wouldn't be surprised to see Crouch instead of Adam, Wolly instead of Wilson and Bojan as an unused sub.... Is there ever going to be any sense in having both Joselu and Crouchy on the bench though? And you'd think Wilson would be a bench shoo-in, ahead of Wolly, due to his ability to cover other positions, especially left-back. Definitely possible that Bojan could feature on the bench, but just got the impression he was saving him for a start at Luton. But if he were to get on the bench, that'd potentially mean none of Bardsley, Sidwell, Crouch, and Wolly making it! The only position I see Wolly adequate to cover is at most the bench, better still seated in the stands |
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Post by liathroid on Aug 22, 2015 11:26:53 GMT
will Ireland start or is he a game changer with 30 mins to go
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 22, 2015 11:30:10 GMT
The thing with Crouch and even Bardsley is will we get anybody who'll pay their wages?
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Post by basingstokie on Aug 22, 2015 11:43:17 GMT
Surely at this time of the season managers are using 'sit in the stands' deliberately to encourage certain players to look for a move and also avoid giving false hope to players. Even if Hughes doesn't think Bojan is ready it might be worth putting him on the bench & leaving Crouch in the stands, IF Hughes wanted to encourage him out the door
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 22, 2015 11:44:22 GMT
I don't think he will start Shaqiri personally but let's see.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 22, 2015 12:33:49 GMT
Agree with your starting 11 unless he starts with Walters & brings Shaqiri on as the game opens up.So bench will have have g/k, defender 2 midfield & 2 forwards . Midfield will be Adam & Bojan and other forward Joselu. No place for Afellay if Bojan on bench.Wow the strength now is amazing.MVG is in danger of losing his place if he doesn't play well today. And what if Whelan gets injured? We can't have Bojan and Adam as his cover. Unless we're absolutely certain that MVG or Afellay can step in for Whelan, then I think we need Sidwell on the bench. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2015 12:35:07 GMT
Today's bench will be VERY interesting.
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Post by right on Aug 22, 2015 12:50:44 GMT
We don't sign shaqiri to come off the bench. I don't care if it's his first march, he got an extra week of training with the team.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 22, 2015 12:56:17 GMT
Yeah hope so don't want him playing against Luton....lower teams crocked him last time. You mean the Rochdale defender with the invisible extendable 12 foot leg? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2015 23:53:54 GMT
Yeah hope so don't want him playing against Luton....lower teams crocked him last time. There was no one near him when he got injured. Oh and the pitch was fine too. The pitch was fine? No it wasn't! /photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw |
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