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Post by lancer on Aug 15, 2015 18:22:10 GMT
Danny supposedly sent a message to P and G saying that Stoke lacked balance and has come in for a bit of stick, but he's right.We now have some excellent midfield players but they have different qualities, defensive midfielders, attacking midfielders and play makers, we just have to sort out the right combinations in the right matches.I haven't felt this excited about the talent we now have, since the early seventies.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 15, 2015 18:26:32 GMT
He's right, we do lack that balance. One way of looking at it is that it's early days and the squad is yet to 'gel' properly with the comings and goings of this summer and players coming back from injury etc.
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Post by liamo on Aug 15, 2015 18:28:01 GMT
Think our lack of balance comes from being without Shawcross and having to adjust to life without Zonz, once the new guys have started to settle and we get Shawcross back to 100% we should be good to go
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:29:53 GMT
Fuck off Higginbotham ya fuckin judas.Didn't you fuck off to the brighter lights of Sunderland when we failed in the play offs,only for you to return when they didn't want you!
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 15, 2015 18:38:09 GMT
He might have had a fair comment if he'd stuck at the balance not being right but when he added too many flare (his spelling) players only like running one way he is talking bollocks, we effectively have two changes from last year Van Ginkel for Nzonzi and Afelay for Moses and both arguably put more of a shift in defensively than the players they replaced regardless of whether thay are as good as them yet.
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Post by robrigo on Aug 15, 2015 18:40:31 GMT
Fuck off Higginbotham ya fuckin judas.Didn't you fuck off to the brighter lights of Sunderland when we failed in the play offs,only for you to return when they didn't want you! Really? Tongue in cheek? |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:43:21 GMT
Fuck off Higginbotham ya fuckin judas.Didn't you fuck off to the brighter lights of Sunderland when we failed in the play offs,only for you to return when they didn't want you! Really? Tongue in cheek? Really what? Idiot who's going to make a decent living from Stoke being in the prem now he's a pundit.You've obviously forgotten the fact that he refused to play for us when Sunderland wanted him.I haven't! |
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Post by Naughtyfarty on Aug 15, 2015 18:44:32 GMT
think thats a bit harsh 'stokerstayinup' hes only giving an opinion, which i agree with anyway
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Post by Silkystoke on Aug 15, 2015 18:45:25 GMT
He's since said sorry ...!!!!!
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Post by Stoke711 on Aug 15, 2015 18:46:16 GMT
Danny supposedly sent a message to P and G saying that Stoke lacked balance and has come in for a bit of stick, but he's right.We now have some excellent midfield players but they have different qualities, defensive midfielders, attacking midfielders and play makers, we just have to sort out the right combinations in the right matches.I haven't felt this excited about the talent we now have, since the early seventies. Higginbotham then tweeted he was wrong and apologised, saying he deserves all the flack he gets from Stokies and praised the team for their fightback |
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Post by chumley on Aug 15, 2015 18:47:14 GMT
stokerstayingup, He went to sunderland because we sold him, and he couldnt wait to come back, Pulis sold him, so get your facts right.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:47:22 GMT
He's since said sorry ...!!!!! For refusing to play for us because a Prem team was after him? Doubt it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2015 18:47:51 GMT
The right side is the issue hopefully that's sorted now.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:48:35 GMT
stokerstayingup, He went to sunderland because we sold him, and he couldnt wait to come back, Pulis sold him, so get your facts right. He wouldn't play for us because 'his head wasn't right'.Get your facts right mate. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 15, 2015 18:49:16 GMT
Something similar happened to Etherington if I remember rightly. Slightly criticised stoke and got abuse for it.
Really don't get it.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 15, 2015 18:51:27 GMT
Like bego couldn't play because his head wasn't right?
Higgy was great for us!
Oh and he's right.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:51:44 GMT
Something similar happened to Etherington if I remember rightly. Slightly criticised stoke and got abuse for it. Really don't get it. I'm not abusing him for his comments on the match.I don't think he should be in the public eye 'representing' Stoke when he didn't want to risk an injury playing for us because Sunderland wanted him. |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:52:29 GMT
Like bego couldn't play because his head wasn't right? Higgy was great for us! Oh and he's right. Yeah,file him under Bego. |
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Post by upthefud on Aug 15, 2015 18:52:56 GMT
Something similar happened to Etherington if I remember rightly. Slightly criticised stoke and got abuse for it. Really don't get it. I'm not abusing him for his comments on the match.I don't think he should be in the public eye 'representing' Stoke when he didn't want to risk an injury playing for us because Sunderland wanted him. Scored the goal that took us to Wembley FFS. Remember when Lou fucked us off for Celtic? |
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 15, 2015 18:53:21 GMT
He's right, though. We need to tweak things to get the balance right and get the best out of our new signings.
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Post by walrus on Aug 15, 2015 18:53:47 GMT
Bizarre that he's getting abused for stating an opinion. He's trying to make a career as a pundit so it's literally his job to do that these days. He's not obliged to think everything about what our current team does is utterly fantastic because he used to play for us.
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Post by robrigo on Aug 15, 2015 18:54:43 GMT
Really what? Idiot who's going to make a decent living from Stoke being in the prem now he's a pundit.You've obviously forgotten the fact that he refused to play for us when Sunderland wanted him.I haven't! ok. And no I haven't forgot. Thought he was a tossbag at the time. Having said that I think he was a good player for us first time and second time. We've moved on, he's moved on, football moves on and at the time I could sort of understand it - looking back. Stoke aren't the club we were back then. Higgy played a massive contribution to where we are now. No loyalty in football, they all fuck off in the end. |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:54:55 GMT
Bizarre that he's getting abused for stating an opinion. He's trying to make a career as a pundit so it's literally his job to do that these days. He's not obliged to think everything about what our current team does is utterly fantastic because he used to play for us. Who's abused him for his opinion? |
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Post by reddipotter on Aug 15, 2015 18:55:50 GMT
Unbalanced is exactly what we were last week. Three of the back four more interested in attacking than defending, no link between midfield and forwards, a front three who were too far apart, and a centre forward who (for all his positives) can't hold the ball up.
When Ireland came on to provide the link and Joselu provided more hold up, thus addressing some of the imbalance, look what happened.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 18:57:06 GMT
Really what? Idiot who's going to make a decent living from Stoke being in the prem now he's a pundit.You've obviously forgotten the fact that he refused to play for us when Sunderland wanted him.I haven't! ok. And no I haven't forgot. Thought he was a tossbag at the time. Having said that I think he was a good player for us first time and second time. We've moved on, he's moved on, football moves on and at the time I could sort of understand it - looking back. Stoke aren't the club we were back then. Higgy played a massive contribution to where we are now. No loyalty in football, they all fuck off in the end. Everyone's got an opinion,like you say,you thought he was a tossbag at the time,I still do.Yet he's making a living on Stoke being in the Prem,i don't care for his opinion. |
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Post by robrigo on Aug 15, 2015 18:59:49 GMT
ok. And no I haven't forgot. Thought he was a tossbag at the time. Having said that I think he was a good player for us first time and second time. We've moved on, he's moved on, football moves on and at the time I could sort of understand it - looking back. Stoke aren't the club we were back then. Higgy played a massive contribution to where we are now. No loyalty in football, they all fuck off in the end. Everyone's got an opinion,like you say,you thought he was a tossbag at the time,I still do.Yet he's making a living on Stoke being in the Prem,i don't care for his opinion. No he's making a living on being an ex footballer as a pundit. Not because Stoke are in the prem. Anyway mate a cracking point today in the end! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 15, 2015 19:00:28 GMT
Something similar happened to Etherington if I remember rightly. Slightly criticised stoke and got abuse for it. Really don't get it. I like higgy and Matty but I always get the impression that both are all too willing to stick the boot in at what Hughes is trying to do, primarily because it isn't the tony pulis way that they were both so in love with. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 15, 2015 19:01:39 GMT
Bizarre that he's getting abused for stating an opinion. He's trying to make a career as a pundit so it's literally his job to do that these days. He's not obliged to think everything about what our current team does is utterly fantastic because he used to play for us. Who's abused him for his opinion? It's the whole point of this thread? Him getting abuse for saying something to p+g? |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 15, 2015 19:15:55 GMT
Who's abused him for his opinion? It's the whole point of this thread? Him getting abuse for saying something to p+g? And my point is,he shouldn't be in the media eye giving a weekly opinion on a team he refused to play for. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2015 19:17:59 GMT
I don't think we do lack balance.
He then changed it to the replacement for Huth and N'Zonzi aren't as good defensively as them, which is correct but a completely different point all together.
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