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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 14:24:11 GMT
just looked at his stats.....surprised he only scored 9 goals, I know goals aren't everything, but I would have thought it would have been more, with him being such a ledge
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Post by psv2000 on Aug 11, 2015 14:27:15 GMT
if the ball was on the line ready for a tap in he'd look around first for 2 players to beat and chip it up for Greenhof to volley it in...
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Aug 11, 2015 14:42:04 GMT
Hudson was a god of a footballer, he did everything on the ball but scoring never seemed to be a priority of his. I seem to recall he scored on his debut. Smoothest silkiest player I have ever seen, dripped class.
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Post by yoc on Aug 11, 2015 15:06:36 GMT
You cannot measure genius.
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Post by richardparker on Aug 11, 2015 15:07:55 GMT
Goals came more from centre forwards and wingers, (and centre halves from corners). Huddy was the creator, threading through killer passes; managing to stand up with the ball at his feet in a complete mudbath, with half the Leeds or Derby team trying to kick him into orbit!
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 11, 2015 15:21:18 GMT
Count the goals he made for all the others!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 11, 2015 15:28:29 GMT
if the ball was on the line ready for a tap in he'd look around first for 2 players to beat and chip it up for Greenhof to volley it in... That's probably an exaggeration but it sums up his philosophy perfectly. I've never seen a more unselfish player - he must have been a dream for Greenhoff and Ritchie and our other forwards to play in front of. The other thing you noticed about him was that, although he wasn't blessed with blistering pace, he had superb balance and was very difficult to dispossess. He seemed to have all the time in the world to wait until his team mates were in the right places for him to restart the attack. Magic, magic player.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 11, 2015 15:29:34 GMT
Hudson was a god of a footballer, he did everything on the ball but scoring never seemed to be a priority of his. I seem to recall he scored on his debut. Smoothest silkiest player I have ever seen, dripped class. He did everything on his debut but score. I think Hurst scored our goal on Huddy’s debut. I will never forget that match. I thought Hudson had invented a different game that day. The 32,000 who were there that day were truly blessed! …...and then in the next game against Chelsea he was even better! I think his first goal for us was in that historic 3-2 win over Leeds, about a month after he joined. It doesn’t get any better than that!
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Aug 11, 2015 15:31:26 GMT
Hudson was a god of a footballer, he did everything on the ball but scoring never seemed to be a priority of his. I seem to recall he scored on his debut. Smoothest silkiest player I have ever seen, dripped class. He did everything on his debut but score. I think Hurst scored our goal on Huddy’s debut. I will never forget that match. I thought Hudson had invented a different game that day. The 32,000 who were there that day were truly blessed! …...and then in the next game against Chelsea he was even better! I think his first goal for us was in that historic 3-2 win over Leeds, about a month after he joined. It doesn’t get any better than that! I bow to your better recollection mate, they were great times to be a Stokie.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 11, 2015 15:32:23 GMT
if the ball was on the line ready for a tap in he'd look around first for 2 players to beat and chip it up for Greenhof to volley it in... That's probably an exaggeration but it sums up his philosophy perfectly. I've never seen a more unselfish player - he must have been a dream for Greenhoff and Ritchie and our other forwards to play in front of. The other thing you noticed about him was that, although he wasn't blessed with blistering pace, he had superb balance and was very difficult to dispossess. He seemed to have all the time in the world to wait until his team mates were in the right places for him to restart the attack. Magic, magic player. That’s true, have never known anyone have so much time on the ball.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 11, 2015 15:41:00 GMT
He did everything on his debut but score. I think Hurst scored our goal on Huddy’s debut. I will never forget that match. I thought Hudson had invented a different game that day. The 32,000 who were there that day were truly blessed! …...and then in the next game against Chelsea he was even better! I think his first goal for us was in that historic 3-2 win over Leeds, about a month after he joined. It doesn’t get any better than that! I bow to your better recollection mate, they were great times to be a Stokie. Huddy’s first goal for Stoke here
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Post by polofrance on Aug 11, 2015 15:53:06 GMT
"Smith flying through the air like an angel" Hugh Johns at his best
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Post by hudsondays on Aug 11, 2015 17:49:19 GMT
Some great football on that video. How good was Hudson? Well, he ran the match when England beat Germany, then world champions, 2-0 but he didn't get on with Alf Ramsey, or rather, Alf didn't get on with him. Best tribute Alan reckoned that ever had was when Stoke skinned Liverpool , when they had a decent side. Bill Shankly asked Tony Waddington: "Do you mind if I go into your dressing room?" Tony said, "Sure." He walked in, went up to Hudson and said: "Well played, son." And walked out. You'd remember that, wouldn't you?
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 11, 2015 21:55:13 GMT
Scoring goals is what makes things tick these days. Defenders don't get POTY awards. I was fortunate to see Hudson play. I don't remember him for scoring goals I remember him controlling games. THE BEST PLAYER I HAVE EVER SEEN LIVE
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Post by march4 on Aug 11, 2015 22:04:46 GMT
Hudson had to be seen to be believed. He controlled the game. He took the ball from out of our keeper's hands and via a series of passes and silky movement he took the ball to the other end of the pitch. Rarely was possession conceded and he did it all at a stroll. Never seen anyone else like him.
Some would argue that he didn't score enough goals, head the ball, chase back, tackle or man mark and yet with 10 other players who did those other things for him, it was sheer genius.
Looking back, we should have won something in the mid 70s.
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Post by scfc2014 on Aug 12, 2015 0:56:42 GMT
Where is joe in oz,he,ll be still having ago at huddy for refusing to play for england.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 12, 2015 1:31:00 GMT
Some great football on that video. How good was Hudson? Well, he ran the match when England beat Germany, then world champions, 2-0 but he didn't get on with Alf Ramsey, or rather, Alf didn't get on with him. Best tribute Alan reckoned that ever had was when Stoke skinned Liverpool , when they had a decent side. Bill Shankly asked Tony Waddington: "Do you mind if I go into your dressing room?" Tony said, "Sure." He walked in, went up to Hudson and said: "Well played, son." And walked out. You'd remember that, wouldn't you? it was Don Revie who wanted to be surrounded by Yes men Bill Shankley also reckoned it was the best debut he had ever seen, and he saw quite a few!
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Post by kustokie on Aug 12, 2015 2:21:44 GMT
I bow to your better recollection mate, they were great times to be a Stokie. Huddy’s first goal for Stoke here Check out the two-footed tackle by Norm "bites-yer-legs" Hunter on John Mahoney that led to the goal by Pejic. Mahoney bounced up and carried on as though nothing had happened. Today that would be a straight red, with the entire Leeds surroundng the ref.
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Post by richardparker on Aug 12, 2015 2:43:01 GMT
Huddy's goal would also have been given as a penaltly for us nowadays, before it reached his foot. Some great crossing in that match from from Jimmy Robertson also.
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Post by chad on Aug 12, 2015 6:44:37 GMT
Hudson was a god of a footballer, he did everything on the ball but scoring never seemed to be a priority of his. I seem to recall he scored on his debut. Smoothest silkiest player I have ever seen, dripped class. He did everything on his debut but score. I think Hurst scored our goal on Huddy’s debut. I will never forget that match. I thought Hudson had invented a different game that day. The 32,000 who were there that day were truly blessed! …...and then in the next game against Chelsea he was even better! I think his first goal for us was in that historic 3-2 win over Leeds, about a month after he joined. It doesn’t get any better than that! If my memory is correct no one scored on his debut It was 0 0
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Post by hudsondays on Aug 12, 2015 8:27:47 GMT
When Tony Waddington bought him, the story goes that he put Alan in a different coloured shirt to everyone else in training, and said: "Just pass to him." He's the reason I still support Stoke. His mum used to clean our offices and she said one day: "Come up and watch Alan play. He's just joined Stoke. I'll get you a ticket." I lived in London, no real affiliation to any side, but that first match settled me. Remember travelling up on the train with the London branch on Saturdays (Monica someone did all the organising). Even played for Stoke (sort of) in a London five-a-aide supporters' competition. I missed a penalty, which is almost impossible to do in 5-a-side. Still feel like Gareth Southgate cos it was in the semi-finals. Went to watch a testimonial match for someone at Chelsea in which Alan played. Bestie played too. I took my girlfriend along, and it was the days of skinheads. She went to the toilets (they were so disgusting at Chelsea that you needed waders) and three skinhead girls accosted her. "What do you think of Alan Hudson?" they demanded. "She thought she was going to be kicked to death but said: "I think he's terrific and ought to play for England every match." The girls looked gloomy. "Yeah, worst thing that ever happened was when he left Chelsea," they replied. And walked out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 8:56:53 GMT
I'm a fan of stats but they never give you the full picture.
If in 50 years time a Stokie was to skim back through the record books alone they'd end up thinking Ric was a run of the mill player and Thorney was world class.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 12, 2015 8:58:37 GMT
He did everything on his debut but score. I think Hurst scored our goal on Huddy’s debut. I will never forget that match. I thought Hudson had invented a different game that day. The 32,000 who were there that day were truly blessed! …...and then in the next game against Chelsea he was even better! I think his first goal for us was in that historic 3-2 win over Leeds, about a month after he joined. It doesn’t get any better than that! If my memory is correct no one scored on his debut It was 0 0 It was 1-1 and Liverpool scored late on We lost only 2 of the 18 games after Hudson joined us that season and I have a feeling he didn’t play in 1 of these. Anyone?
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Aug 12, 2015 9:01:38 GMT
Only ever saw him live on his second spell but he still had the class then. A marvellous creator and he used the football like he owned it. Great swagger.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Aug 12, 2015 9:14:01 GMT
My second ever game was that Leeds match. Only a kid, but as Lakeland says the thing that stands out was the amount of time he seemed to have. A knack of finding space, and maybe opponents stood off him. He was so good on the ball he could go past people easily. Maybe he wasn't lightening fast, but he had great acceleration and change of pace to get away. He didn't need to run fast. He made playing football look easy.
You would have to see that England v Germany footage to believe what a good dribbler and how good in possession he was.
He was majestic running with the ball, head up, looking for Jimmy's run. George Best said he was the finest English player of his generation - the nearest modern player to him would be Gasgoigne.
Alan Hudson. He had time and absolute class. The guy would have still looked cool having a dump. What a player.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 12, 2015 9:22:58 GMT
For someone of the apparent arrogance and confidence Hudson portrays, as a player, he was very unselfish. His job wasn't scoring goals and he seemed to have little interest in doing so. His job was painting a beautiful picture, on a background of green. and what a supreme artist he was! 'Alan Hudson walks on water!'
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 12, 2015 10:43:18 GMT
In todays market, Hudson would be among the £50m+ targets.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 12, 2015 10:46:19 GMT
In todays market, Hudson would be among the £50m+ targets. True - but if he played for Stoke Hodgson would not pick him for England!
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Post by jimmygscfc on Aug 12, 2015 10:49:11 GMT
He really did make the game look easy. His control and vision were other-worldy, and that's not looking through the rose-tinted specs of a middle-aged fan. If you saw him play, you'd know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 11:03:24 GMT
Ive been a fan since 69...but i had a break from watching the games properly....playing in a band
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