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Post by LphPotter on Aug 10, 2015 1:05:26 GMT
Hellu! Stoke vs Lpool: Butland - 7.5 (high class substitute for Begovic) Peters - 4.5 (naaa...) Cameron - 8 (not bad at all) Muniesa - 10 (MoM, no doubt) Johnson - 7.5 (I only wished he'd passed his man) van Ginkel - 3.5 (who?) Adam - 7.5 (ok today, luckily not injured) Whelan - 8.5 (impressed) Affelay - 8 (MoM first 30 mins, then nout) Walters - 4 (nothing special) Diouf - 2 (sell) Wollscheid - 4 (didn't impress me) Sidwell - 2 (nothing at all) Odemwingie - 1.5 (hopefully just bad luck today) :/ btw, Lpool were the better team (ball possession 68%) and we didn't deserve any points today banana ice cream and hoppa hoppa hule hule later on://musik Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/246601/players-points-10#ixzz3iL4iJTbL
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2015 1:09:02 GMT
Oh and you have to love musik.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 10, 2015 2:32:25 GMT
Hellu! Stoke vs Lpool: Butland - 7.5 (high class substitute for Begovic) Peters - 4.5 (naaa...) Cameron - 8 (not bad at all) Muniesa - 10 (MoM, no doubt) Johnson - 7.5 (I only wished he'd passed his man) van Ginkel - 3.5 (who?) Adam - 7.5 (ok today, luckily not injured) Whelan - 8.5 (impressed) Affelay - 8 (MoM first 30 mins, then nout) Walters - 4 (nothing special) Diouf - 2 (sell) Wollscheid - 4 (didn't impress me) Sidwell - 2 (nothing at all) Odemwingie - 1.5 (hopefully just bad luck today) :/ btw, Lpool were the better team (ball possession 68%) and we didn't deserve any points today banana ice cream and hoppa hoppa hule hule later on://musik Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/246601/players-points-10#ixzz3iL4iJTbLWhat did Pieter's do wrong and secondly sell Diouf :/ Rating Diouf as a "2" is very silly and I can only assume "sell" was a joke. Can't fault him for effort but we didn't play to his strengths, which are to get on the end of decent crosses or running on to through balls. The crossing was poor and most balls up the middle were played to his feet with his back to the goal. Diouf can score in bunches when we have Bojan back who can draw out the defense and either shoot or push the ball through and a winger/wing back that can cross.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 10, 2015 5:14:13 GMT
Butland - 6 Johnson - 8 Cameron - 7 Muniesa - 7 Pieters - 6 Whelan - 7.5 Van Ginkel - 5 Adam - 5 Afellay - 7 Walters - 6 Diouf - 6 Wollscheid - 6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 6:22:53 GMT
I think some folk are getting there knickers in a twist because we lost it. The 2s and 4s etc are a disgrace and what id expect from a 8 year old. On the whole we played well, the back 5 would all get a 9 from me along with whwlan who was my motm. The rest of the team would get a 8 apart from Adam who was a 7. Sidwell did nothing to deserve anything more than a 4. To be honest mate I didn't include the subs in that. But If so wolly 8, odemwingie 6, sidwell 0.
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Post by kurt on Aug 10, 2015 8:50:58 GMT
Butland - 6 Johnson - 8 (solid in the defence and with a lot offensive ambitions) Cameron - 8 ( ) Muniesa - 7 Pieters - 6 Whelan - 7 Van Ginkel - 5 (didn´t impress me) Adam - 5 (put much effort against his former teammates, but lost so many balls and made wrong decisions) Afellay - 7 (good moments, excellent first touch, distributed the ball well - but no danger for the Red´s goal) Walters - 6 Diouf - 7 Wollscheid - 6 Hughes: - 7 (it was a good starting 11 with a well organized team, Sidwell was no good sub - Ireland ore another more offensive sub would have been my choice, cause Liverpool was weak yesterday)
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 10, 2015 9:12:26 GMT
Butland - 8 Johnson - 8 Cameron - 8 Muniesa - 8 Pieters - 7 Whelan - 7 Van Ginkel - 6 Adam - 5 Afellay - 6 Walters - 7 Diouf - 7 Wollscheid - 6 Yes ....pretty fair , but I would have given Van Ginkel 5 This but Butland 5/6...got a hand to shot...if you get a hand to it...you should tip it over.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 10, 2015 9:17:59 GMT
Butland 7
Johnson 7
Cameron 8
Muniesa 8
Pieters 6
Walters 6
Van Ginkel 6
Whelan 9
Afellay 6
Adam 5
Diouf 7
Subs
Wooly 7 Sidwell 3 Winge 4
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Post by musik on Aug 10, 2015 10:37:04 GMT
Can't fault him for effort but we didn't play to his strengths, which are to get on the end of decent crosses or running on to through balls. The crossing was poor and most balls up the middle were played to his feet with his back to the goal. Diouf can score in bunches when we have Bojan back who can draw out the defense and either shoot or push the ball through and a winger/wing back that can cross. [/quote] I agree that Bojan is the key to our play! At the same time, if Diouf only must get the ball in a certain way when he stands or runs in a special position, and otherwise can't do much, then he's just a mediocre forward player at best. We are in a great need for a striker. I liked the way Afellay acted the first 30 mins, unfortunately he got very tired. No shots or headers on targets that could have get us point/s. I was disappointed actually. Too much long balls in attempts to reach Walters and Diouf and no creativity in midfield. They ran up front with not much of a support. Defence was good though. Why do Diouf often fall on the ground while running? Conclusion from yesterday's performance is that the team isn't "ready" and learn to find each other better. Afraid we will lose away to Spurs and Norwich as well. Then a home win.
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Post by rosco on Aug 10, 2015 10:52:23 GMT
Butland 7 Johnson 8 Muniesa 9 Cameron 8 Pieters 7 Afellay 7 Whelan 8 Adam 7 v. Ginkel 7 Walters 7 Diouf 6
Odemwingie 4 Sidwell 4 Wollsheid 7
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Post by knowles on Aug 11, 2015 5:59:01 GMT
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 11, 2015 8:11:28 GMT
Butland - 7 Johnson - 7 Cameron - 8 Muniesa - 8 Pieters - 6 Whelan - 8.5 Van Ginkel - 6.5 Adam - 6 Afellay - 6 Walters - 6 Diouf - 6
Wollscheid - 7 Sidwell - 5 Odemwinge - 5
OS.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 11, 2015 8:22:49 GMT
Whilst on the pitch pieters was superb so can only assume the low marks are because he went off at half time
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Post by musik on Aug 11, 2015 10:12:22 GMT
Muniesa was the outstanding one for me. I also got a text message just now from a Lpool supporter and he too shared my opinion.
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Post by musik on Aug 11, 2015 10:16:27 GMT
Very much dank Joe for this thread, Knowles. I saw the results now in that "by a whisker"-link and agree completely. Defence was solid, so was Buttland. Upfront nothing special apart from Afellay. I'm not that weird after all.
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