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Post by enuntio on Aug 4, 2015 14:28:56 GMT
As soon as Ryan went down, twice. In a home game, clutching his back. I said at the time that HUTH should now be recalled and kept at Stoke. Huth was as much a captain for stock as Ryan, and this can't pass bollocks just doesn't wash. He wasn't there to pass, he was there to stop goals being scored. We were pretty poor defensively for most of the season. It was there for all to see. WE MISSED ROBERT HUTH We missed him so much we conceded fewer goals, scored more goals, won more games, gained more points and finished in the top 10 again. I wish people would stop spouting shit. We would have conceded fewer goals, got more points, finished higher Our set piece defending deteriorated with out HUTH SO THERE
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 4, 2015 14:30:07 GMT
We missed him so much we conceded fewer goals, scored more goals, won more games, gained more points and finished in the top 10 again. I wish people would stop spouting shit. We would have conceded fewer goals, got more points, finished higher Our set piece defending deteriorated with out HUTH SO THERE 6th best defence in the PL.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 14:33:33 GMT
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Aug 4, 2015 14:38:48 GMT
we all knew we should have got Huthy back
now we have Woolshite
God help us
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Post by enuntio on Aug 4, 2015 14:39:07 GMT
We would have conceded fewer goals, got more points, finished higher Our set piece defending deteriorated with out HUTH SO THERE 6th best defence in the PL. At the time, we were struggling with injuries, HUTH was back to fitness, it was a huge gamble letting him stay at Leicester.HUTH has qualities that all teams need. Stoke need another "Robert Huth" a +110% committed player
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 4, 2015 14:40:44 GMT
6th best defence in the PL. At the time, we were struggling with injuries, HUTH was back to fitness, it was a huge gamble letting him stay at Leicester.HUTH has qualities that all teams need. Stoke need another "Robert Huth" a +110% committed player WE HAD THE 6th BEST DEFENCE IN THE LEAGUE.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 4, 2015 14:44:26 GMT
we all knew we should have got Huthy back now we have Woolshite God help us Wasn't rocket science was it, big fucking mistake.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 4, 2015 14:48:28 GMT
Maybe he will loan Huth back to us if that is indeed the case. Christ you really are a hysterical handbag swinging tart. Get a grip or go and watch your hero at the Lineker stadium. H Who the fuck are you, what are your thoughts on the matter ?
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Post by crowey on Aug 4, 2015 14:55:10 GMT
... Shanghai, as you say, all the problems started when the roof blew off the Butler Street stand
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Post by Sfance on Aug 4, 2015 14:57:57 GMT
STILL????????????????
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Post by RAF on Aug 4, 2015 14:58:11 GMT
I'm the person calling you a hysterical knicker wetting tart. That's who I am. Huth is no longer our player, you need to get over it. You've been given plenty of facts about our defence last year which you choose to ignore. It obviously doesn't help with your Wollie agenda either!
6th best defence in the league.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 4, 2015 15:02:34 GMT
Like RAF I tend to despair at the suggestion selling a player who hadn't played for two seasons was a mistake when the players brought in to replace him conspired to produce our best finishing position, most points won and lowest goals conceded without parking the fucking bus in our Premier League history.
Give it a rest.
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Post by crowey on Aug 4, 2015 15:05:51 GMT
.... Totally agree with RAF & MarkWolstanton...nuff said
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 4, 2015 15:11:56 GMT
Like RAF I tend to despair at the suggestion selling a player who hadn't played for two seasons was a mistake when the players brought in to replace him conspired to produce our best finishing position, most points won and lowest goals conceded without parking the fucking bus in our Premier League history. Give it a rest. Are you confident with our current defensive situation as we go into the new season then?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 4, 2015 15:15:23 GMT
Massive massive mistake to sell him imo whatever anybody says about goals conceded last season .We never ever looked safe from set plays and any manager worth is salt will play on our weakness this season.We need 2 centre halfs if Ryan isn't fit for a long period of time because none of the others are good enough to step up and fill the void imo.Its going to very interesting to see whether Sparky brings anyone in because one things for sure if he doesn't we will concede goals from set plays.Lets hope we can score enough at the other end.Also if you don't agree with this i don't really care these are my thoughts
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 4, 2015 15:20:49 GMT
While the defensive issues are indeed a concern, should we not adopt the 'attack is the best form of defence' policy. Surely we need to address a potential goal scoring problem first to relieve the defensive pressure ?
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Post by Sfance on Aug 4, 2015 15:26:43 GMT
STILL???????
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 4, 2015 15:36:35 GMT
Massive massive mistake to sell him imo whatever anybody says about goals conceded last season .We never ever looked safe from set plays and any manager worth is salt will play on our weakness this season.We need 2 centre halfs if Ryan isn't fit for a long period of time because none of the others are good enough to step up and fill the void imo.Its going to very interesting to see whether Sparky brings anyone in because one things for sure if he doesn't we will concede goals from set plays.Lets hope we can score enough at the other end.Also if you don't agree with this i don't really care these are my thoughts It had to be for non-football reasons. Just had to. He proved his fitness and re-proved his ability whilst on loan and there was clearly no route back whatever he did. Which of course makes you wonder what deal we'd done for Wollscheid in the meantime. The big concern and even the 'knicker wetter accusers' know it deep down is that we won't keep the ball as well without N'Zonzi and we will therefore have a weaker defence under greater pressure more often than in the previous seasons, in addition to the on-going set piece issues. I find not being a bit concerned pretty odd myself.
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Post by captainmainwaring on Aug 4, 2015 16:07:09 GMT
I seem to remember a period of time last season when Ryan Shawcross was out of the side due to this back problem.
I can remember Wollscheid and Muniesa being paired together and Wilson and Muniesa/Wollscheid.
I can remember these pairings having outstanding games.
Help me out with the games. Who did we play and what were the scores?
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Aug 4, 2015 16:58:39 GMT
certainly is and will be forever and forever- the debate will go on we'll have to wait and see
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 4, 2015 17:00:41 GMT
A massive mistake to sell a player who hasn't featured for 2 seasons and in the mean time improved our defensive record.
Poirot couldn't work this one out.
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Post by Gods on Aug 4, 2015 17:12:52 GMT
Massive massive mistake to sell him imo whatever anybody says about goals conceded last season .We never ever looked safe from set plays and any manager worth is salt will play on our weakness this season.We need 2 centre halfs if Ryan isn't fit for a long period of time because none of the others are good enough to step up and fill the void imo.Its going to very interesting to see whether Sparky brings anyone in because one things for sure if he doesn't we will concede goals from set plays.Lets hope we can score enough at the other end.Also if you don't agree with this i don't really care these are my thoughts It had to be for non-football reasons. Just had to. He proved his fitness and re-proved his ability whilst on loan and there was clearly no route back whatever he did. Which of course makes you wonder what deal we'd done for Wollscheid in the meantime. The big concern and even the 'knicker wetter accusers' know it deep down is that we won't keep the ball as well without N'Zonzi and we will therefore have a weaker defence under greater pressure more often than in the previous seasons, in addition to the on-going set piece issues. I find not being a bit concerned pretty odd myself. Yes it did, nothing else makes any sense. I wonder if Huth was insufficiently remorseful following 'nein cock gate' who knows, guess we will have to wait for the autobiographies now. I understand why people may say it will be 'no loss' because Huth hasn't featured much in the last 2 seasons but the fact is he is fit again now and they should perhaps instead look on it as a 'missed gain'. Without the apparent long term injury to Shawcross it looked like a manageable mistake, with it then the decision looks like the action of someone certifiably mad.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 4, 2015 17:17:38 GMT
It had to be for non-football reasons. Just had to. He proved his fitness and re-proved his ability whilst on loan and there was clearly no route back whatever he did. Which of course makes you wonder what deal we'd done for Wollscheid in the meantime. The big concern and even the 'knicker wetter accusers' know it deep down is that we won't keep the ball as well without N'Zonzi and we will therefore have a weaker defence under greater pressure more often than in the previous seasons, in addition to the on-going set piece issues. I find not being a bit concerned pretty odd myself. Yes it did, nothing else makes any sense. I wonder if Huth was insufficiently remorseful following 'nein cock gate' who knows, guess we will have to wait for the autobiographies now. I understand why people may say it will be 'no loss' because Huth hasn't featured much in the last 2 seasons but the fact is he is fit again now and they should perhaps instead look on it as a 'missed gain'. Without the apparent long term injury to Shawcross it looked like a manageable mistake, with it then the decision looks like the action of someone certifiably mad. In view of Nein cock could it be possible the decision came from higher up the food chain ?
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Post by Gods on Aug 4, 2015 17:33:25 GMT
Yes it did, nothing else makes any sense. I wonder if Huth was insufficiently remorseful following 'nein cock gate' who knows, guess we will have to wait for the autobiographies now. I understand why people may say it will be 'no loss' because Huth hasn't featured much in the last 2 seasons but the fact is he is fit again now and they should perhaps instead look on it as a 'missed gain'. Without the apparent long term injury to Shawcross it looked like a manageable mistake, with it then the decision looks like the action of someone certifiably mad. In view of Nein cock could it be possible the decision came from higher up the food chain ? I don't know, it's a strange on to me. I don't believe Mr. Hughes or his immediate staff fit the 'certifiably mad' description, quite the opposite in fact so perhaps it did, bet we learn something when the auto biographies come out but by that time none of us will really care!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 4, 2015 17:38:46 GMT
A massive mistake to sell a player who hasn't featured for 2 seasons and in the mean time improved our defensive record. Poirot couldn't work this one out. See the natural conclusion to this oft repeated statement, pugs is that we are a better side with Wollscheid in the team that his acquisition improved us and I genuinely believe no one thinks that, as it's nuts.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 4, 2015 17:43:34 GMT
A massive mistake to sell a player who hasn't featured for 2 seasons and in the mean time improved our defensive record. Poirot couldn't work this one out. See the natural conclusion to this oft repeated statement, pugs is that we are a better side with Wollscheid in the team that his acquisition improved us and I genuinely believe no one thinks that, as it's nuts. I'm no great fan of Wolly but to say we have missed Huth is clearly incorrect. We've done fine without him, a miracle really as Wilson is a walking calamity, Cameron is shit, Wolly a disaster, Begovic had a shocker and Ryan and Marc are crocks.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 4, 2015 17:44:15 GMT
In view of Nein cock could it be possible the decision came from higher up the food chain ? I don't know, it's a strange on to me. I don't believe Mr. Hughes or his immediate staff fit the 'certifiably mad' description, quite the opposite in fact so perhaps it did, bet we learn something when the auto biographies come out but by that time none of us will really care! I'm still bothered by the greenhoff fiasco
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Post by blackpoolred on Aug 4, 2015 18:53:23 GMT
Now it looks like it might come back and bite us on the arse, with ShawX struggling and Wooly looking a bit shite we may have to depend on a centre back pairing out of Wilson/Tex/Muni. Getting concerned yet - I am. Gouranga. Yes - I could understand us getting rid if we had a wealth of players that are better than him. Hard to understand why we let him go to rivals, especially with Shawcross back problems. Not convinced of Muni at centre and for me we dont have anybody else in that position that is going to take us to the, so called, next level - quite the opposite in my opinion. So, yes, just a little concerned
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 4, 2015 20:25:22 GMT
I don't know, it's a strange on to me. I don't believe Mr. Hughes or his immediate staff fit the 'certifiably mad' description, quite the opposite in fact so perhaps it did, bet we learn something when the auto biographies come out but by that time none of us will really care! I'm still bothered by the greenhoff fiasco Not to mention Pej...
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 4, 2015 20:35:00 GMT
Since just about everyone had his say on this particular subject must as well give my tiny contribution too
I do not adhere to the 'we should never have sold Huth' theory. Huth has given a massive contribution to this club and we are all thankful for it BUT I can see why he did not form part of Hughes' plans for the way he wants to mould our team. A football manager has every right to have a project for the team and to shape the team according to his football philosophy and a rock solid centre half who is not so capable in the distribution side of the game was not part of Hughes' plans. I accept that and I also concur.
What I do not agree with is replacing him with a central defender who may be more capable in distributing the ball but who is completely lacking in pace and solid defending. There are so many better centre halfs we could have aimed for perhaps for a higher price but it would certainly have been an important investment for such a key position in the team, especially with Ryan's back problems
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