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Post by salopstick on Jul 28, 2015 21:47:31 GMT
No they shouldn't be charged they've suffered enough losing their child Yeah but surely leaving her DNS the twins whilst they went on the piss was neglect
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 21:52:32 GMT
No they shouldn't be charged they've suffered enough losing their child Yeah but surely leaving her DNS the twins whilst they went on the piss was neglect Haven't even read the story, but what is charging them going to do?.....if they are parents they've lost everything already
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 22:49:58 GMT
If that's neglect, then what is it if a couple of middle-class doctors decide to leave a three year old alone in an unlocked foreign hotel room with a couple of babies whilst they go out on the lash with mates? There is just something that is not right about that case ......
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Post by Boothen on Jul 28, 2015 22:59:21 GMT
If that's neglect, then what is it if a couple of middle-class doctors decide to leave a three year old alone in an unlocked foreign hotel room with a couple of babies whilst they go out on the lash with mates? There is just something that is not right about that case ...... You know that, I know that and vast swathes of the general populace of multiple countries know that. But thanks to the shite parents in question being overly litigious, and somehow above and immune from criticism, nobody dare raise their concerns in public.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 23:01:48 GMT
There is just something that is not right about that case ...... You know that, I know that and vast swathes of the general populace of multiple countries know that. But thanks to the shite parents in question being overly litigious, and somehow above and immune from criticism, nobody dare raise their concerns in public. That's exactly the case I would say mate unfortunately .
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jul 29, 2015 14:01:40 GMT
In 'absolute' terms this does look like neglect.. Why no statement from mum & dad ? Unfortunately, in todays world we see this happening all the time..children left to their own devices at a very young age, without supervision. It always concerns me when I see very young children behaving very 'independently' doing things that children wouldn't normally do on their own (e;g five year olds going into shops to buy food, wandering around on their own without an adult,) because that is a sure sign that they have been left to fend for themselves on too many occasions...because the experience no longer frightens them. Accidents will happen but in my experience, most accidents aren't 'man made' at all they are the result of people's actions (or lack of them) Sad but unfortunately true. see what you're saying but i'm not going to judge or slag off the parents until the whole story is known. dangerous making presumptions on subjects like this (and not really the kind of situation where i think it's warranted to try to guess what their family life must have been like and whether that was a direct or indirect cause of a tragedy like this...and i know that isn't what you're doing in your post btw, just you know what some on here are like)) and with regards to no statement from the parents....is it not possible that they're just too distraught to come out and do that at the moment? when parents do come out straight away and make statements nowadays all you seem to get is the media and internet trolls combing over every tiny thing they've said and the tone of voice in which they said it looking for more stories and drama "Oooh she didn't look as upset as i would be in that circumstance, she's a heartless bitch" "Oooh he had a nice car, must spend all his time buying nice things and forgetting about his kids" etc. etc. and all the usual trolling shit sure they will come out publicly at some point but it should be when the time is right for them, not because it's what the media expects and wants right now because it will make them a better story! they have no obligation to tell us all what happened or their family circumstances just because the media are interested and our curiosity will (rightly) mean absolutely nothing to them at the moment and they won't care if we want to know answers...it's none of our business after all. I see where you're coming from Mick but I'm a bit suspicious with this case. Did this poor lad have brothers and sisters? Where are they now? Local Authority Care? Something doesn't chime right to me with this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 14:28:55 GMT
see what you're saying but i'm not going to judge or slag off the parents until the whole story is known. dangerous making presumptions on subjects like this (and not really the kind of situation where i think it's warranted to try to guess what their family life must have been like and whether that was a direct or indirect cause of a tragedy like this...and i know that isn't what you're doing in your post btw, just you know what some on here are like)) and with regards to no statement from the parents....is it not possible that they're just too distraught to come out and do that at the moment? when parents do come out straight away and make statements nowadays all you seem to get is the media and internet trolls combing over every tiny thing they've said and the tone of voice in which they said it looking for more stories and drama "Oooh she didn't look as upset as i would be in that circumstance, she's a heartless bitch" "Oooh he had a nice car, must spend all his time buying nice things and forgetting about his kids" etc. etc. and all the usual trolling shit sure they will come out publicly at some point but it should be when the time is right for them, not because it's what the media expects and wants right now because it will make them a better story! they have no obligation to tell us all what happened or their family circumstances just because the media are interested and our curiosity will (rightly) mean absolutely nothing to them at the moment and they won't care if we want to know answers...it's none of our business after all. I see where you're coming from Mick but I'm a bit suspicious with this case. Did this poor lad have brothers and sisters? Where are they now? Local Authority Care? Something doesn't chime right to me with this one. yeah mate and i agree that from what i've read it doesn't look good. Suppose more than anything i just don't think it's great to publicly (as in on the intrrnet etc.) speculate and come up with our own 2+2=x theories when it involves the death of a young kid when there are so few publicly known facts is all.we come up with conclusions as to what we think happened without knowing the family,thier circumstances or the circumstances that led to the incident and the family themself have no right of reply unless they happen to read the oatcake kinda thing (if that makes sense)..although i do appreciate that that is just my personal stance and shouldn't really have any impact on what others choose to do i guess
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Post by Northy on Jul 29, 2015 18:17:49 GMT
If that's neglect, then what is it if a couple of middle-class doctors decide to leave a three year old alone in an unlocked foreign hotel room with a couple of babies whilst they go out on the lash with mates? The 3 year old wasnt alone, she was with her 1 year old twin sisters Sent from my SM-G850F using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 11:00:24 GMT
In todays age yes. When I was growing up,during the hols, most went off in the morning and did not return until tea time,but things were more relaxed in those days,not the road traffic there is now,if you went to the park, Hanley or Trentham, there were hundreds of kids about unsupervised, and you normally went off with a load of other kids anyway,very rarely alone. This is the KEY change for me, the hundreds of kids all out together, you were never alone, Also you did what you were told by any grown up as they all watched each others children as a community.
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