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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 19:04:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 19:06:11 GMT
Terrible. Infact his handling of the Shaqiri transfer points to the complete opposite and that he's learned from any 'mistakes' he might have made, by admitting that he sensed Shaqiri didn't want to come, set him a deadline and moved on. |
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Post by mark71 on Jul 14, 2015 19:06:33 GMT
Utter horseshit
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Post by iglugluk on Jul 14, 2015 19:12:34 GMT
Read that earlier..................complete and utter crap I'd say.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 14, 2015 19:12:56 GMT
Shit bin end of!
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jul 14, 2015 19:13:59 GMT
"Mark Hughes’ exploits at Stoke perhaps haven’t received the credit they deserve, but the Potters boss is putting his two seasons of sterling work on the line by repeating mistakes made in during his disaster stint at QPR."
There's a certain lack of credit-giving by themselves by assuming he's making the same mistakes without waiting to see how any potential "big money" signings turn out. It's a bit hypocritical from the outset.
They also seem to be unable to grasp the concept of the owners having to agree to release the funds to the manager for these transfers. The owners at QPR are just as at fault for his failure there as himself. If it all goes wrong, then fair enough but up to now he's done very well (by their own admission).
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jul 14, 2015 19:17:35 GMT
Not bad journalism as such,just someone trying to find an angle to back an outsider in a betting market. |
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Post by songthrush01 on Jul 14, 2015 19:20:56 GMT
i agree to some extent like the sale of huth wilko stoke at heart players,youve got to keep grafters in your squad,i think weve seen that in the likes of bardsley that he is a bit of a dick and buying players that really dont want to be here.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jul 14, 2015 19:25:14 GMT
Amazing the amount of shite that gets churned through that newsnow site. It's extremely easy to get linked up on there.
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Post by steve66 on Jul 14, 2015 19:25:08 GMT
I read that earlier, wasn't it the directors who were heavily involved at QPR ,bringing in who they wanted?
Anyway I don't care today is now past is past!
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Post by fca47 on Jul 14, 2015 19:27:35 GMT
Good job we didn't get any of these elite players then.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 14, 2015 19:33:51 GMT
As I said when I read it earlier on Twitter, obviously the people setting the odds think it's bollocks too given we are at 14's to get relegated.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 14, 2015 19:36:15 GMT
We're good at proving people wrong, most of the time
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 19:38:12 GMT
Never saw qpr 9th in the league
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Post by liathroid on Jul 14, 2015 19:40:20 GMT
the difference between Stoke and QPR is The Chairman
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Post by greystokie on Jul 14, 2015 19:44:57 GMT
Clearly written to encourage gamblers to take on the 14/1 bet on us to go down. I think they will have to lengthen those odds quite a bit before they'll start to get any takers
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 14, 2015 19:49:12 GMT
If anyone's tempted to bet on us going down please use BET365!  |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 14, 2015 19:49:15 GMT
Click bait.
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Post by march4 on Jul 14, 2015 21:16:48 GMT
As long as every signing is simply replacing someone who has left I am quite happy.
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Post by lancashirelad on Jul 14, 2015 21:37:06 GMT
Every manager seems to buy a certain type of player. Hughes loves flair. I really hope he gets the balance right as he is managing slowly turn us into a more progressive team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 21:37:47 GMT
We'll bloody sign cattermole now  |
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 14, 2015 21:47:19 GMT
We'll bloody sign cattermole now Just signed a five year deal with the perennial relegation dodgers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 21:56:54 GMT
We'll bloody sign cattermole now Just signed a five year deal with the perennial relegation dodgers. Phewwwww  |
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Post by aldershotstoke on Jul 14, 2015 21:57:41 GMT
Effectively comparing Park Ji-Sung and Jose Boswinga with Shaqiri and Konoplyanka....laughable  Sent from my C6903 using proboards |
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Post by philm87 on Jul 14, 2015 23:22:19 GMT
Whatever the faults of his argument I fear there might be some truth in this.
I will trust Hughes just as I trusted Pulis, because he has earned that trust. However, I always felt the reason Hughes has been able to take us to the 'next level' where Pulis failed is because he got the balance right. Pulis focused too much on being solid defensively, working hard and having the right characters in the squad. He played down expectations a little too much at times and didn't seem to aspire to much more than mid-table safety.
Hughes has added more options going forward, more flair players, more players who perhaps don't have the same DNA as a Super Jon, but possess superior technical ability. He has been much more ambitious, both during games and in terms of his aims for the club each season, and he has been quite open about this in public. In his first few months he tried and failed to get the balance right in what was a difficult transitional period. Around about February 2014 he managed to nail it and since then we have been a bona fide top ten side. We are still reasonably solid defensively, we still have a strong team spirit marshaled by the old guard, but we also have players who can play a bit more, and we are more bold in trying to win games, particularly away from home.
We need to make sure we keep the right number of players in our team who will retain that never say die attitude. Players like Ryan, Whelan and Walters. These guys ensure that if we ever slip into a relegation battle, they will have the bottle to get us out of it as they have shown before. It is players like Whelan who allow those more creative flair players to do their thing. We have let Huth go, and Wilko's time has been and gone. I'm not sure what the future holds for Super Jon, with him publicly showing his frustration about contract talks? Whelan will stay for now, but he won't be here forever. At some point we need to replace these players. Yes, we need players who are quicker and have greater technical ability, but we need players that have the same level of commitment, professionalism and determination also. It's not just about what these guys do as individuals. We are a top ten team because we are a top ten TEAM.
I reckon Hughes will get the balance right, or at least will try his best to do so. There is a part of me though that worries a couple of years from now we will have a squad full of fancy players who have the potential for true greatness, but will be found wanting if ever we are in trouble. At the same time I also fear some might be getting a bit ahead of themselves in terms of expectations. I'm glad manager and players are aiming to constantly improve, that is the way it should be. However, we shouldn't take it for granted that this will happen. I'm not trying to point a dampener on things. I've said on here before I think we can finish as high as 7th and success in one of the cups may be on the horizon. Equally though, this could be the rise before the fall. You never know with football. After years in the wilderness I will never take Premier League football for granted. We have just beaten Liverpool 6-1 and it would be a shame if people failed to enjoy this because they were instead wishing for some glorious new era. They might find themselves looking back on this a few years down the line and realising that this right now, this is the glorious new era, they just never stopped to notice it.
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Post by debabelizer on Jul 14, 2015 23:27:20 GMT
Whatever the faults of his argument I fear there might be some truth in this. I will trust Hughes just as I trusted Pulis, because he has earned that trust. However, I always felt the reason Hughes has been able to take us to the 'next level' where Pulis failed is because he got the balance right. Pulis focused too much on being solid defensively, working hard and having the right characters in the squad. He played down expectations a little too much at times and didn't seem to aspire to much more than mid-table safety. Hughes has added more options going forward, more flair players, more players who perhaps don't have the same DNA as a Super Jon, but possess superior technical ability. He has been much more ambitious, both during games and in terms of his aims for the club each season, and he has been quite open about this in public. In his first few months he tried and failed to get the balance right in what was a difficult transitional period. Around about February 2014 he managed to nail it and since then we have been a bona fide top ten side. We are still reasonably solid defensively, we still have a strong team spirit marshaled by the old guard, but we also have players who can play a bit more, and we are more bold in trying to win games, particularly away from home. We need to make sure we keep the right number of players in our team who will retain that never say die attitude. Players like Ryan, Whelan and Walters. These guys ensure that if we ever slip into a relegation battle, they will have the bottle to get us out of it as they have shown before. It is players like Whelan who allow those more creative flair players to do their thing. We have let Huth go, and Wilko's time has been and gone. I'm not sure what the future holds for Super Jon, with him publicly showing his frustration about contract talks? Whelan will stay for now, but he won't be here forever. At some point we need to replace these players. Yes, we need players who are quicker and have greater technical ability, but we need players that have the same level of commitment, professionalism and determination also. It's not just about what these guys do as individuals. We are a top ten team because we are a top ten TEAM. I reckon Hughes will get the balance right, or at least will try his best to do so. There is a part of me though that worries a couple of years from now we will have a squad full of fancy players who have the potential for true greatness, but will be found wanting if ever we are in trouble. At the same time I also fear some might be getting a bit ahead of themselves in terms of expectations. I'm glad manager and players are aiming to constantly improve, that is the way it should be. However, we shouldn't take it for granted that this will happen. I'm not trying to point a dampener on things. I've said on here before I think we can finish as high as 7th and success in one of the cups may be on the horizon. Equally though, this could be the rise before the fall. You never know with football. After years in the wilderness I will never take Premier League football for granted. We have just beaten Liverpool 6-1 and it would be a shame if people failed to enjoy this because they were instead wishing for some glorious new era. They might find themselves looking back on this a few years down the line and realising that this right now, this is the glorious new era, they just never stopped to notice it. Excellent post. Hughes is doing a fine job, but he's not untouchable as he seems to have become due to two seasons decent finishes. I think its very important that we keep both Whelan and Walters in the mix. They give us real bite. |
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Post by LphPotter on Jul 14, 2015 23:27:27 GMT
Such a ridiculous article. The points dont even make sense, very poor journalism.
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Post by Gods on Jul 14, 2015 23:34:29 GMT
Stranger that while the author James Middleton claims to be an avid Middlesboro fan he refers to us as "Staffordshire’s finest soccer franchise" which sounds very American. Maybe it is a pop at our Bet365 links.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 15, 2015 0:13:12 GMT
Buying star players doesn't seem to have hurt the Chelseas of this world none. This is just another example of people thinking we are trying to get above ourselves. I remember when Stoke were on a par with Chelsea and Arsenal and Manchester City were beneath us. rue, I'm not sure Man U. ever were. But teams come and go. Notts Forest, for example, Ipswich, etc.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jul 15, 2015 0:56:43 GMT
Buying star players doesn't seem to have hurt the Chelseas of this world none. This is just another example of people thinking we are trying to get above ourselves. I remember when Stoke were on a par with Chelsea and Arsenal and Manchester City were beneath us. rue, I'm not sure Man U. ever were. But teams come and go. Notts Forest, for example, Ipswich, etc. I think it will be very difficult for the elite to come and go the way the leagues are now run. Only the after rans will switch |
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