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Post by Dave the Rave on Jul 1, 2015 18:54:58 GMT
Can't it only increase by £4m per annum?
Talk of Konoplianka and Shaqiri on £75,000 per week (as per SL&P) each would surely smash us through that barrier? Then there'd be the other star players no doubt wanting rises in line.
Granted we've lost Wilko, Tommy and Pallasseos' wages but that won't compensate enough for deals like this will it?
Is there any circumstance where it can rise by more than £4m within the rules?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 19:02:36 GMT
I don't know if it went up by £4m last season, so maybe there's rollover? Not entirely sure how it works, but sales and releasing will be key.
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Post by march4 on Jul 1, 2015 19:07:06 GMT
You can take Bego and N'Zonzi out of the costs.
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Post by slpmarc on Jul 1, 2015 19:09:25 GMT
Can't it only increase by £4m per annum? Talk of Konoplianka and Shaqiri on £75,000 per week (as per SL&P) each would surely smash us through that barrier? Then there'd be the other star players no doubt wanting rises in line. Granted we've lost Wilko, Tommy and Pallasseos' wages but that won't compensate enough for deals like this will it? Is there any circumstance where it can rise by more than £4m within the rules? £4million on top of any extra revenue brought into club from extra merchandise sales or sponsor ship deals. Hence why it's important to get a decent stadium deal and we have the new balance deal what ever that pays all contribute towards our FFP on wages |
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Post by YounginStoke on Jul 1, 2015 19:10:42 GMT
Bego- £40,000
Palacios- £25,000
Sorensen- £15,000
Wilko- £15,000
There just estimates but that's £95,000 a week which is around £5 million a year and add the £4 million a year it can rise by anyway, £9 million should be enough to play with.
Also not taking into account if Zonz leaves.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 1, 2015 19:14:34 GMT
Bego- £40,000 Palacios- £25,000 Sorensen- £15,000 Wilko- £15,000 There just estimates but that's £95,000 a week which is around £5 million a year and add the £4 million a year it can rise by anyway, £9 million should be enough to play with. Also not taking into account if Zonz leaves. Wasn't palacios rumoured to be on closer to 40k? |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jul 1, 2015 19:14:58 GMT
You can take Bego and N'Zonzi out of the costs. Surely we'd have to replace both though. I can't imagine N'Zonzi being on mega money either..... Is he one of our top earners? The stadium deal could be key though I guess. Would NB be paying us any more than Warrior were? |
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Post by YounginStoke on Jul 1, 2015 19:19:38 GMT
Bego- £40,000 Palacios- £25,000 Sorensen- £15,000 Wilko- £15,000 There just estimates but that's £95,000 a week which is around £5 million a year and add the £4 million a year it can rise by anyway, £9 million should be enough to play with. Also not taking into account if Zonz leaves. Wasn't palacios rumoured to be on closer to 40k? Think I saw that it turned out to be 27k a week but with bonuses, but it could have been closer to 40k which means we have even more to play with. |
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 1, 2015 19:21:25 GMT
Wasn't palacios rumoured to be on closer to 40k? Think I saw that it turned out to be 27k a week but with bonuses, but it could have been closer to 40k which means we have even more to play with. I have no idea just saw it on here at 40k, that may be (as you say) with bonus. Which I hope to god he didn't get any of them. To think I was so excited when he signed  |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 1, 2015 19:28:23 GMT
Guys, all the pay figures being banded around are pure guess work. I feel confident enough to leave it to the experts at the Brit to ensure we meet all the financial rules and similarly, the rules on home bred players. Sit back, relax and go with the flow. What will be, will be. There's Badu and a top quality right back to add in as well hopefully.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 1, 2015 19:32:20 GMT
Bego- £40,000 Palacios- £25,000 Sorensen- £15,000 Wilko- £15,000 There just estimates but that's £95,000 a week which is around £5 million a year and add the £4 million a year it can rise by anyway, £9 million should be enough to play with. Also not taking into account if Zonz leaves. In my eyes those estimates are way off, but as you say we are losing a chunk, so we should be able to cope with another highly paid player or two. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 1, 2015 20:03:45 GMT
You can take Bego and N'Zonzi out of the costs. Surely we'd have to replace both though. I can't imagine N'Zonzi being on mega money either..... Is he one of our top earners? The stadium deal could be key though I guess. Would NB be paying us any more than Warrior were? I'd imagine NB will pay the same as Warrior - as it is a continuation of the same deal as they are, in effect, the same firm. It will be he new stadium deal which will be the key to an increased wage deal and I'm sure that is the reason why a stadium deal has not been announced until the club knows its wage bill for the financial year which is just starting. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jul 1, 2015 20:09:25 GMT
Surely we'd have to replace both though. I can't imagine N'Zonzi being on mega money either..... Is he one of our top earners? The stadium deal could be key though I guess. Would NB be paying us any more than Warrior were? I'd imagine NB will pay the same as Warrior - as it is a continuation of the same deal as they are, in effect, the same firm. It will be he new stadium deal which will be the key to an increased wage deal and I'm sure that is the reason why a stadium deal has not been announced until the club knows its wage bill for the financial year which is just starting. Doesn't it make more sense to get your income sorted first and fit your wages accordingly? Surely, having a very high wage bill and then trying to find a sponsor to cover it, is the wrong way to do it. Austerity, my dear old boy (as practiced by George Osborne and Norman Smurthwaite!). |
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Jul 1, 2015 20:26:20 GMT
Hate to bring the old chestnut out again but if we filled the corner in then that may cover a bit lol
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Post by burge2u on Jul 1, 2015 20:27:04 GMT
I'd imagine NB will pay the same as Warrior - as it is a continuation of the same deal as they are, in effect, the same firm. It will be he new stadium deal which will be the key to an increased wage deal and I'm sure that is the reason why a stadium deal has not been announced until the club knows its wage bill for the financial year which is just starting. Doesn't it make more sense to get your income sorted first and fit your wages accordingly? Surely, having a very high wage bill and then trying to find a sponsor to cover it, is the wrong way to do it. Austerity, my dear old boy (as practiced by George Osborne and Norman Smurthwaite!). I would tend to agree Nick, but I suppose that it could also be argued that better players would also improve the bargaining situation for the stadium naming rights. Also, I don't suppose that Stoke have much control over the timing of the availability of incoming players, which has caused quite a bit of consternation on this message board, despite the fact that the Transfer Window' has only just opened today. |
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jul 1, 2015 20:36:03 GMT
Bego- £40,000 Palacios- £25,000 Sorensen- £15,000 Wilko- £15,000 There just estimates but that's £95,000 a week which is around £5 million a year and add the £4 million a year it can rise by anyway, £9 million should be enough to play with. Also not taking into account if Zonz leaves. Wasn't Palacios on £40k? |
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Post by miggo on Jul 1, 2015 20:42:23 GMT
Bego- £40,000 Palacios- £25,000 Sorensen- £15,000 Wilko- £15,000 There just estimates but that's £95,000 a week which is around £5 million a year and add the £4 million a year it can rise by anyway, £9 million should be enough to play with. Also not taking into account if Zonz leaves. Wasn't Palacios on £40k? I'm pretty certain he was, what a waste |
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 1, 2015 20:44:09 GMT
Bego- £40,000 Palacios- £25,000 Sorensen- £15,000 Wilko- £15,000 There just estimates but that's £95,000 a week which is around £5 million a year and add the £4 million a year it can rise by anyway, £9 million should be enough to play with. Also not taking into account if Zonz leaves. Wasn't Palacios on £40k? You'd think he'd have to be one of highest earners. He must have been on a decent wedge at Spurs and he wouldn't have come here for a big pay cut would he? |
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Post by swampySCFC on Jul 1, 2015 21:39:39 GMT
Reckon thats the problem and thats where Carto comes in to the equation
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Post by MrBigJobby on Jul 1, 2015 22:01:44 GMT
Wilko was on 29000
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Post by ayem on Jul 2, 2015 0:06:32 GMT
Possible crouch restructured for less. Same for Cameron.
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