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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 28, 2015 10:31:12 GMT
I've just watched the league cup final with my little lad and whilst I've seen the goals, I've never seen the full game before. It is really the first time I'd ever watched a full game involving our heroes from the 70's and some things really struck me from that game;
Stoke fans sung you'll never walk alone numerous times as if it was our own anthem. What was all that about?
A crowd of 100,000 generated gate receipts of £123,000 according to the commentator.
I never realised that the man lifting the cup was peter dobing and not Dennis Smith. Even my boy picked up on that.
I've heard many on here talk about dennis Smith (my dad loved him) but on that cup final viewing surely Alan Bloor was even better. Just as hard but an even better defender and an infinitely superior footballer? He was everywhere.
Gordon banks really is the greatest goalkeeper ever to have played the game. He showed his brilliance at every aspect of the game in that final. Great hands, great agility, commanding under the high ball, lightening quick off his line and superb distribution from hand and foot.
I now know why Jimmy greenhoff was everyone's favourite player. Just how good was he? My boy noticed how good his touch was and when he got subbed at the end, he said "he's brilliant isn't he dad. He never lost the ball and didn't miscontrol it once". A guy I play golf with said he was "nesh". He looked to have played that game with his arm hanging off. What must this guy think of the modern day footballer if greenhoff was nesh?
The Chelsea "trainer" was sat smoking on the bench :-)
The tackling was superb from both sides and both sides just "got on with the game".
When Harris left one on greenhoff, players from both sides were laughing and exchanging knowing winks. When he eventually got to his feet, even greenhoff nodded his approval of a particularly cynical challenge.
Brilliant morning with my boy watching our superb team from the 70's.
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Post by werrington on Jun 28, 2015 12:17:07 GMT
Every clubs fans sang YNWA back then mate
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 28, 2015 12:18:47 GMT
Every clubs fans sang YNWA back then mate Really? I never knew that. How come it became synonymous with Liverpool? It was way before I was born :-)
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Post by werrington on Jun 28, 2015 12:24:23 GMT
Every clubs fans sang YNWA back then mate Really? I never knew that. How come it became synonymous with Liverpool? It was way before I was born :-) Gerry Matseen who wrote and sang it was a scouser and Liverpool fan Dave No idea how it became just their anthem as it was regular sang at all stadiums back in the 70s
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Jun 28, 2015 12:26:46 GMT
Gerry Marsden not Matseen and no he did not write it he just released it as a single as Gerry and the Pacemakers.
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Jun 28, 2015 12:28:50 GMT
Sorry WERRINGTON I have just re-read my post and it looks a little rude, no offence intended.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 28, 2015 12:33:50 GMT
Brendan Rodgers and Hammerstein wrote it.
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Jun 28, 2015 12:38:11 GMT
Alf Ramsey came to watch Alan Bloor several times just after he broke into the 1st team at Stoke. I think it was just Alan's lack of serious pace that held him back, as a player he was a terrific defender. After Smith came along Bloor did the tidying up and Dennis looked after the first time headers etc. They were the best for me and only equalled by Ryan and Huthy in their pomp. Jimmy Greenhof was immaculate in everything he did but unfortunately not a great goal scorer more a scorer of great goals. Gordon Banks was quite simply the best I have ever seen.
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Post by towraytek on Jun 28, 2015 12:43:05 GMT
Dave, I didn't know the full game was available. I thought it was just the old ITV highlights of about 45 minutes duration.
We showed it one night at Knype Club with Terry Conroy and Jackie Marsh doing a commentary. Everybody stood up and cheered when the goals went in!
Ek
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Post by werrington on Jun 28, 2015 12:46:15 GMT
Sorry WERRINGTON I have just re-read my post and it looks a little rude, no offence intended. I meant Marsden mate ....bloody iphones
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Jun 28, 2015 12:49:29 GMT
I think the biggest memory I have of the day is that I felt we didn't play particularly well. Dobing and Bernard never really got going and Marsh and Pejic were not raiding as they usually did. MOM undoubtedly for me was Conroy, scored one and made one.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 28, 2015 12:51:34 GMT
That 1972 team was only bettered by the addition of Hudson and Salmons couple of years later. The mistake Waddo made was not replacing John Ritchie after his career ending injury with another prolific goal scorer. If he had have done so I am convinced that we would have been champions in 74-75.
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Jun 28, 2015 12:57:24 GMT
That 1972 team was only bettered by the addition of Hudson and Salmons couple of years later. The mistake Waddo made was not replacing John Ritchie after his career ending injury with another prolific goal scorer. If he had have done so I am convinced that we would have been champions in 74-75. Pretty spot on Lawrie, can't argue with much of that other than to add the flourishing of John Mahoney as a wonderful player.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 28, 2015 13:04:50 GMT
I've just watched the league cup final with my little lad and whilst I've seen the goals, I've never seen the full game before. It is really the first time I'd ever watched a full game involving our heroes from the 70's and some things really struck me from that game; Stoke fans sung you'll never walk alone numerous times as if it was our own anthem. What was all that about? Most club popular ends sang it in the 60s early 70sA crowd of 100,000 generated gate receipts of £123,000 according to the commentator. Can't remember the face value of my ticket, but prices were generally fractions of £. It was about 72 inflation took off with "Barber's boom (inflation reached 24%pa) and decimalisation (another government con trick.)I never realised that the man lifting the cup was peter dobing and not Dennis Smith. Even my boy picked up on that. Another brilliant idea by Waddington was to make Dobing (who could be a problem) captain to give him resposibility.I've heard many on here talk about dennis Smith (my dad loved him) but on that cup final viewing surely Alan Bloor was even better. Just as hard but an even better defender and an infinitely superior footballer? He was everywhere. Alan Bloor was a tremendous foil for Smithy. Waddington often pushed him forward to CF if Stoke were struggling, but it rarely worked.Gordon banks really is the greatest goalkeeper ever to have played the game. He showed his brilliance at every aspect of the game in that final. Great hands, great agility, commanding under the high ball, lightening quick off his line and superb distribution from hand and foot. Banks' great gift wasn't his reactions or athleticism, there were arguably others better; his greatest talent was anticipation. He somehow always knew where the ball was going and got there to stop it going in.I now know why Jimmy greenhoff was everyone's favourite player. Just how good was he? My boy noticed how good his touch was and when he got subbed at the end, he said "he's brilliant isn't he dad. He never lost the ball and didn't miscontrol it once". A guy I play golf with said he was "nesh". He looked to have played that game with his arm hanging off. What must this guy think of the modern day footballer if greenhoff was nesh? We all have our favourites and in the 60s it was Burrows for me like most Boothen Enders, but in the 70s Greenhoff won my heart, he was such a genuine 100% player.The Chelsea "trainer" was sat smoking on the bench :-) We all did didn't we?The tackling was superb from both sides and both sides just "got on with the game". Tackling was actually better because defenders weren't afraid like they are today. Plus surfaces were poorer which gave forwards less options, but it didn't stop the likes of Matthews, Best, and Giles. Make that Baker.When Harris left one on greenhoff, players from both sides were laughing and exchanging knowing winks. When he eventually got to his feet, even greenhoff nodded his approval of a particularly cynical challenge. Brilliant morning with my boy watching our superb team from the 70's. Every Stokie should have one.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jun 28, 2015 13:06:41 GMT
You'll never walk alone was still sung in the 80's in the boothen. And one man went to mow.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 28, 2015 13:10:27 GMT
Got my Dads ticket from the final in front of me now along with FA Cup semi final tickets.
West Standing Enclosure - 60p
Yes lads, SIXTY PENCE.
The Semi Final 2nd Replay was 80p!!!!!
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Post by jeycov on Jun 28, 2015 13:21:20 GMT
Dave, I didn't know the full game was available. I thought it was just the old ITV highlights of about 45 minutes duration. We showed it one night at Knype Club with Terry Conroy and Jackie Marsh doing a commentary. Everybody stood up and cheered when the goals went in! Ek It's available on DVD although I'm not sure if it's the full 90 mins. The band marching on and off at half time takes up quite a few minutes!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 28, 2015 13:51:55 GMT
I've just watched the league cup final with my little lad and whilst I've seen the goals, I've never seen the full game before. It is really the first time I'd ever watched a full game involving our heroes from the 70's and some things really struck me from that game; Stoke fans sung you'll never walk alone numerous times as if it was our own anthem. What was all that about? Most club popular ends sang it in the 60s early 70sA crowd of 100,000 generated gate receipts of £123,000 according to the commentator. Can't remember the face value of my ticket, but prices were generally fractions of £. It was about 72 inflation took off with "Barber's boom (inflation reached 24%pa) and decimalisation (another government con trick.)I never realised that the man lifting the cup was peter dobing and not Dennis Smith. Even my boy picked up on that. Another brilliant idea by Waddington was to make Dobing (who could be a problem) captain to give him resposibility.I've heard many on here talk about dennis Smith (my dad loved him) but on that cup final viewing surely Alan Bloor was even better. Just as hard but an even better defender and an infinitely superior footballer? He was everywhere. Alan Bloor was a tremendous foil for Smithy. Waddington often pushed him forward to CF if Stoke were struggling, but it rarely worked.Gordon banks really is the greatest goalkeeper ever to have played the game. He showed his brilliance at every aspect of the game in that final. Great hands, great agility, commanding under the high ball, lightening quick off his line and superb distribution from hand and foot. Banks' great gift wasn't his reactions or athleticism, there were arguably others better; his greatest talent was anticipation. He somehow always knew where the ball was going and got there to stop it going in.I now know why Jimmy greenhoff was everyone's favourite player. Just how good was he? My boy noticed how good his touch was and when he got subbed at the end, he said "he's brilliant isn't he dad. He never lost the ball and didn't miscontrol it once". A guy I play golf with said he was "nesh". He looked to have played that game with his arm hanging off. What must this guy think of the modern day footballer if greenhoff was nesh? We all have our favourites and in the 60s it was Burrows for me like most Boothen Enders, but in the 70s Greenhoff won my heart, he was such a genuine 100% player.The Chelsea "trainer" was sat smoking on the bench :-) We all did didn't we?The tackling was superb from both sides and both sides just "got on with the game". Tackling was actually better because defenders weren't afraid like they are today. Plus surfaces were poorer which gave forwards less options, but it didn't stop the likes of Matthews, Best, and Giles. Make that Baker.When Harris left one on greenhoff, players from both sides were laughing and exchanging knowing winks. When he eventually got to his feet, even greenhoff nodded his approval of a particularly cynical challenge. Brilliant morning with my boy watching our superb team from the 70's. Every Stokie should have one.Thanks for that. I've got a great life with 2 wonderful kids and some magic friends but if I could have a back to the future moment, it would definitely be to go back and experience that generation of stoke city football club
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 28, 2015 13:57:43 GMT
Dave, I didn't know the full game was available. I thought it was just the old ITV highlights of about 45 minutes duration. We showed it one night at Knype Club with Terry Conroy and Jackie Marsh doing a commentary. Everybody stood up and cheered when the goals went in! Ek It's available on DVD although I'm not sure if it's the full 90 mins. The band marching on and off at half time takes up quite a few minutes! Its the dvd we've got. My boy found it at my mums house. It condenses the game into about 50 minutes I'd say. Another funny/interesting thing was that when we'd taken the cup down the steps, before we could start the lap of honour, the players from both sides had to observe the national anthem again.
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Post by Davef on Jun 28, 2015 14:14:01 GMT
You'll never walk alone was still sung in the 80's in the boothen. And one man went to mow. Are you sure about that roots? Can't say I remember one man went to mow being sung in the Boothen.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jun 28, 2015 14:24:48 GMT
You'll never walk alone was still sung in the 80's in the boothen. And one man went to mow. Are you sure about that roots? Can't say I remember one man went to mow being sung in the Boothen. Yes used to sing it quite often, I think he had a dog called Spot
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jun 28, 2015 14:25:51 GMT
You'll never walk alone was still sung in the 80's in the boothen. And one man went to mow. Are you sure about that roots? Can't say I remember one man went to mow being sung in the Boothen. Heard it a fair few times mate. One man and his supersonic dog spot. Mid 80's.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 28, 2015 15:24:47 GMT
Got my Dads ticket from the final in front of me now along with FA Cup semi final tickets. West Standing Enclosure - 60p Yes lads, SIXTY PENCE. The Semi Final 2nd Replay was 80p!!!!! Nice find Pugs. That 60 pence ticket should now cost around £7.50 with inflation. Puts the game into perspective doesn't it.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 28, 2015 16:05:03 GMT
The song is from Carousel by Rodgers and Hammerstein, I looked it up to see when it was written because I wasn't sure; it was 1945
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Post by roostershair on Jun 28, 2015 16:30:19 GMT
Every clubs fans sang YNWA back then mate Really? I never knew that. How come it became synonymous with Liverpool? It was way before I was born :-) Scousers mate! They pinched it off us!!!! If it ain't nailed down (whistle)I gave my ticket to my Dad and I ended up with one in the Chelsea end!!!!!! Just above the tunnel. At the end Mike Pejic saw us going mental and lifted the cup to us! There was afew of us and to be fair to the Chelsea lads they didn't give us much grief which was bloody unusual in the 70s. To be honest they could have kicked the crap out of me at that moment, I wouldn't have felt it!!!!!!!
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Post by kronkie on Jun 28, 2015 16:54:10 GMT
I don't remember one man went to mow either, we did do some strange song " to his horse, he was saying goodbye to his horse", maybe your getting them mixed up roots.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 16:58:57 GMT
Great days and a great team. But for that stand roof blowing off, Greenhoff wouldn't have been sold. BUT
Happy days are here again etc.
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Post by burge2u on Jun 28, 2015 17:57:38 GMT
Great days and a great team. But for that stand roof blowing off, Greenhoff wouldn't have been sold. BUT Happy days are here again etc. Not sure if this a conspiracy theory or not, but my mate used to work near to the Vic. He tells me that just before the stand 'blew down' that there were workers on the roof. The conspiracy theory bit is that they cut through one of the wooden beams which caused the eventual collapse. After the collapsed, evidence of ongoing work was allegedly removed, so that an insurance claim could be made.
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Post by Davef on Jun 28, 2015 18:04:21 GMT
Great days and a great team. But for that stand roof blowing off, Greenhoff wouldn't have been sold. BUT Happy days are here again etc. Not sure if this a conspiracy theory or not, but my mate used to work near to the Vic. He tells me that just before the stand 'blew down' that there were workers on the roof. The conspiracy theory bit is that they cut through one of the wooden beams which caused the eventual collapse. After the collapsed, evidence of ongoing work was allegedly removed, so that an insurance claim could be made. Yeah, great story. And what would've happened had the stand collapsed during a game with thousands of people sitting in it?
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Post by lordb on Jun 28, 2015 18:07:14 GMT
I don't remember one man went to mow either, we did do some strange song " to his horse, he was saying goodbye to his horse", maybe your getting them mixed up roots. We used to sing one man went to mow in the '80's.
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