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Post by kbillyh on Jun 22, 2015 19:07:19 GMT
Never mate...you're one of the few decent posters on here....usually I was actually thinking of you after killbillies post......me and thee are poles apart politically, yet we still get on fine, where as billy really does take it to heart....silly billy Taken nothing "to heart" mate and as i said in my previous post i feel no "anger". Where these assumptions come from after stating that i find this whole issue mildly amusing is a question that only yourself can answer. I could only suggest it's the case that these are your very own personal feelings on the matter and as a result your only form of defence is some kind of transference. Are you mentally ill?
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 19:14:14 GMT
I was actually thinking of you after killbillies post......me and thee are poles apart politically, yet we still get on fine, where as billy really does take it to heart....silly billy Taken nothing "to heart" mate and as i said in my previous post i feel no "anger". Where these assumptions come from after stating that i find this whole issue mildly amusing is a question that only yourself can answer. I could only suggest it's the case that these are your very own personal feelings on the matter and as a result your only form of defence is some kind of transference. Are you mentally ill? Are you able to assist with mental health issues ?, if so contact admin I think they would appreciate your input with regard to the recent influx of he who should not be mentioned.
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 19:48:51 GMT
Dunner rub this lantern again mate. You don't know what will appear. <winky> PS. I reserve the right to come back and haunt crapslinger every time he says something foolish and/or offensive. Boo! He just did... When doesn't he
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 19:58:46 GMT
He just did... When doesn't he Hi Edge any further thoughts on the question I asked you a couple of times, do you think Nelson Mandela should have been sentenced to death for the part he played as MK leader in the murder of innocent white people in SA, would you categorise these as acts of terrorism or that of freedom fighters/political activists , bearing in mind that this man was put on a pedestal by many a lot of the atrocities that were committed whilst he was leader of MK seem to have been overlooked do you not think.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 20:04:53 GMT
I was actually thinking of you after killbillies post......me and thee are poles apart politically, yet we still get on fine, where as billy really does take it to heart....silly billy Poles apart politically as in you're quite keen to stop poles coming in Don't stop at the poles tho
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 20:14:55 GMT
When doesn't he Hi Edge any further thoughts on the question I asked you a couple of times, do you think Nelson Mandela should have been sentenced to death for the part he played as MK leader in the murder of innocent white people in SA, would you categorise these as acts of terrorism or that of freedom fighters/political activists , bearing in mind that this man was put on a pedestal by many a lot of the atrocities that were committed whilst he was leader of MK seem to have been overlooked do you not think. I'm against the death penalty for a start. I also think the point you're trying to make is a really, really stupid one, Mandela was not charged for any of the accusations you're trying to level at him. I don't suppose you've got anything to factually back up what you're saying have you? "Operating through a cell structure, MK agreed to acts of sabotage to exert maximum pressure on the government with minimum casualties, bombing military installations, power plants, telephone lines and transport links at night, when civilians were not present. Mandela stated that they chose sabotage not only because it was the least harmful action, but also "because it did not involve loss of life [and] it offered the best hope for reconciliation among the races afterward." He noted that "strict instructions were given to members of MK that we would countenance no loss of life", but should these tactics fail, MK would resort to "guerilla warfare and terrorism"Mandela in my eyes was a freedom fighter who fought for a great cause and is rightly revered for what he helped to accomplish.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 22, 2015 20:23:43 GMT
When doesn't he Hi Edge any further thoughts on the question I asked you a couple of times, do you think Nelson Mandela should have been sentenced to death for the part he played as MK leader in the murder of innocent white people in SA, would you categorise these as acts of terrorism or that of freedom fighters/political activists , bearing in mind that this man was put on a pedestal by many a lot of the atrocities that were committed whilst he was leader of MK seem to have been overlooked do you not think. No surprise Harry liked this post, can I just ask why are you only concerned with the murder of innocent white people, do the black people who by the way were the majority of the non-security forces killed not count ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 20:25:21 GMT
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jun 22, 2015 20:30:07 GMT
bring back the cliffies
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 20:48:13 GMT
I'm asking for facts/evidence and the article you've linked provides neither. Mandela was charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government. He was not charged for the things that carpslayer is accusing him of because there is no evidence for it.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 20:50:01 GMT
Hi Edge any further thoughts on the question I asked you a couple of times, do you think Nelson Mandela should have been sentenced to death for the part he played as MK leader in the murder of innocent white people in SA, would you categorise these as acts of terrorism or that of freedom fighters/political activists , bearing in mind that this man was put on a pedestal by many a lot of the atrocities that were committed whilst he was leader of MK seem to have been overlooked do you not think. I'm against the death penalty for a start. I also think the point you're trying to make is a really, really stupid one, Mandela was not charged for any of the accusations you're trying to level at him. I don't suppose you've got anything to factually back up what you're saying have you? "Operating through a cell structure, MK agreed to acts of sabotage to exert maximum pressure on the government with minimum casualties, bombing military installations, power plants, telephone lines and transport links at night, when civilians were not present. Mandela stated that they chose sabotage not only because it was the least harmful action, but also "because it did not involve loss of life [and] it offered the best hope for reconciliation among the races afterward." He noted that "strict instructions were given to members of MK that we would countenance no loss of life", but should these tactics fail, MK would resort to "guerilla warfare and terrorism"Mandela in my eyes was a freedom fighter who fought for a great cause and is rightly revered for what he helped to accomplish. Starting point Google, quite a lot of evidence on there happy reading, one I think was the bombing of a shopping centre but just have a look at the information for yourself, I believe Mumf has given you a link there are plenty more out there MK the terrorist arm of the ANC sort of says it all really, he was also an admirer of Colonel Gaddafi that lovely dictator who was also admired and visited by George Galloway now there's an indictment
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Post by kbillyh on Jun 22, 2015 20:52:03 GMT
Hmmmm, not considered it before but perhaps Mumf and Crapslinger............nah, couldn't be could they?
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 20:53:05 GMT
I'm asking for facts/evidence and the article you've linked provides neither. Mandela was charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government. He was not charged for the things that carpslayer is accusing him of because there is no evidence for it. The acts he was involved included violence to cause political unrest and incitement according to you these are pretty much tantamount to terrorism, make your mind up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 20:56:58 GMT
Hmmmm, not considered it before but perhaps Mumf and Crapslinger............nah, couldn't be could they? I do the evenings ....and he does the days . Sometimes I get confused whom I am if I have forgotten to take the Warfarin ....So tonight's its Mumf and in the morning I would like to be addressed as Carps.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 20:57:49 GMT
Hmmmm, not considered it before but perhaps Mumf and Crapslinger............nah, couldn't be could they? That's a ************** thing to say.....infact I have an email where ************** calls carpslayer crapslinger
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 21:01:53 GMT
Hmmmm, not considered it before but perhaps Mumf and Crapslinger............nah, couldn't be could they? Attachment Deleted
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Post by kbillyh on Jun 22, 2015 21:04:46 GMT
Ok, that's that cleared up then.........ahem.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 21:06:56 GMT
Hmmmm, not considered it before but perhaps Mumf and Crapslinger............nah, couldn't be could they? That's a ************** thing to say.....infact I have an email where ************** calls carpslayer crapslinger Oh no another one, could he be the sleeper ************** on the board , I actually might change my username to crapslinger it has a certain ring to it.
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 22, 2015 21:13:18 GMT
I'm asking for facts/evidence and the article you've linked provides neither. Mandela was charged with four counts of sabotage and conspiracy to violently overthrow the government. He was not charged for the things that carpslayer is accusing him of because there is no evidence for it. The acts he was involved included violence to cause political unrest and incitement according to you these are pretty much tantamount to terrorism, make your mind up. Truly a bizarre argument you are pursuing even for you, the fact is that apartheid was an evil system where the majority population of a country were violently oppressed and murdered, I suppose Nelson could have tried throwing rotten fruit and booing but it probably wouldn't have worked.... In ten years MK killed 130 people which is 130 too many but at the Sharpeville massacre the SA security forces killed 69 people in one day. As Churchill said history is written by the victors, so history will call Mandela a freedom fighter, call him a terrorist if it makes you happy but whatever you call him the cause to end apartheid was not wrong whatever you think of the methods.
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 21:17:00 GMT
I'm against the death penalty for a start. I also think the point you're trying to make is a really, really stupid one, Mandela was not charged for any of the accusations you're trying to level at him. I don't suppose you've got anything to factually back up what you're saying have you? "Operating through a cell structure, MK agreed to acts of sabotage to exert maximum pressure on the government with minimum casualties, bombing military installations, power plants, telephone lines and transport links at night, when civilians were not present. Mandela stated that they chose sabotage not only because it was the least harmful action, but also "because it did not involve loss of life [and] it offered the best hope for reconciliation among the races afterward." He noted that "strict instructions were given to members of MK that we would countenance no loss of life", but should these tactics fail, MK would resort to "guerilla warfare and terrorism"Mandela in my eyes was a freedom fighter who fought for a great cause and is rightly revered for what he helped to accomplish. Starting point Google, quite a lot of evidence on there happy reading, one I think was the bombing of a shopping centre but just have a look at the information for yourself, I believe Mumf has given you a link there are plenty more out there MK the terrorist arm of the ANC sort of says it all really, he was also an admirer of Colonel Gaddafi that lovely dictator who was also admired and visited by George Galloway now there's an indictment Well the fact that he served 27 years in prison but wasn't even charged (never mind found guilty) of anything you're accusing him of tells me all I need to know. You haven't got any evidence and your continuation of this argument is as stupid as the initial point you tried to make
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 21:17:49 GMT
The acts he was involved included violence to cause political unrest and incitement according to you these are pretty much tantamount to terrorism, make your mind up. Truly a bizarre argument you are pursuing even for you, the fact is that apartheid was an evil system where the majority population of a country were violently oppressed and murdered, I suppose Nelson could have tried throwing rotten fruit and booing but it probably wouldn't have worked.... In ten years MK killed 130 people which is 130 too many but at the Sharpeville massacre the SA security forces killed 69 people in one day. As Churchill said history is written by the victors, so history will call Mandela a freedom fighter, call him a terrorist if it makes you happy but whatever you call him the cause to end apartheid was not wrong whatever you think of the methods. Nail on the head mate. Out of interest carps what is your opinion on Steven Biko?
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 22, 2015 21:27:26 GMT
Starting point Google, quite a lot of evidence on there happy reading, one I think was the bombing of a shopping centre but just have a look at the information for yourself, I believe Mumf has given you a link there are plenty more out there MK the terrorist arm of the ANC sort of says it all really, he was also an admirer of Colonel Gaddafi that lovely dictator who was also admired and visited by George Galloway now there's an indictment Well the fact that he served 27 years in prison but wasn't even charged (never mind found guilty) of anything you're accusing him of tells me all I need to know. You haven't got any evidence and your continuation of this argument is as stupid as the initial point you tried to make Edge - chill. Fish man is stringing you up and winding you in. In any case, Mandela is in good company...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 21:28:38 GMT
Hmmmm, not considered it before but perhaps Mumf and Crapslinger............nah, couldn't be could they? Few ppl have seed it already lol
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 21:29:20 GMT
Well the fact that he served 27 years in prison but wasn't even charged (never mind found guilty) of anything you're accusing him of tells me all I need to know. You haven't got any evidence and your continuation of this argument is as stupid as the initial point you tried to make Edge - chill. Fish man is stringing you up and winding you in. In any case, Mandela is in good company... I'm chilled
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 21:31:33 GMT
Hmmmm, not considered it before but perhaps Mumf and Crapslinger............nah, couldn't be could they? I do the evenings ....and he does the days . Sometimes I get confused whom I am if I have forgotten to take the Warfarin ....So tonight's its Mumf and in the morning I would like to be addressed as Carps. Could you rustle up some scrambled egg for breakfast(let it cool and put it in the fridge), off to bed early start in the morning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 21:33:58 GMT
I do the evenings ....and he does the days . Sometimes I get confused whom I am if I have forgotten to take the Warfarin ....So tonight's its Mumf and in the morning I would like to be addressed as Carps. Could you rustle up some scrambled egg for breakfast(let it cool and put it in the fridge), off to bed early start in the morning. Okay Mumf ....no problem ....I'll just check if the girls have laid.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 21:34:45 GMT
Truly a bizarre argument you are pursuing even for you, the fact is that apartheid was an evil system where the majority population of a country were violently oppressed and murdered, I suppose Nelson could have tried throwing rotten fruit and booing but it probably wouldn't have worked.... In ten years MK killed 130 people which is 130 too many but at the Sharpeville massacre the SA security forces killed 69 people in one day. As Churchill said history is written by the victors, so history will call Mandela a freedom fighter, call him a terrorist if it makes you happy but whatever you call him the cause to end apartheid was not wrong whatever you think of the methods. Nail on the head mate. Out of interest carps what is your opinion on Steven Biko? His washing machines are absolutely shit nothing but trouble with the fucker, never tried his other electrical goods but from experience steer clear of his goods.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 22, 2015 21:37:32 GMT
Could you rustle up some scrambled egg for breakfast(let it cool and put it in the fridge), off to bed early start in the morning. Okay Mumf ....no problem ....I'll just check if the girls have laid. Carps, can you make sure the rabbits are separated tonight Mo is like a butchers dog at the moment, he is a randy little monkey.
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 21:38:53 GMT
Nail on the head mate. Out of interest carps what is your opinion on Steven Biko? His washing machines are absolutely shit nothing but trouble with the fucker, never tried his other electrical goods but from experience steer clear of his goods. Seriously though what is your opinion on Steven Biko the apartheid activist who died in police custody?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 22, 2015 21:41:07 GMT
Is that website your source of objective and unbiased information, Mumf? It reads like the para-military wing of Fox News!
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