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Post by sportsman on Jun 24, 2015 19:33:10 GMT
Coming from little old Stoke, I'm just glad we've got a player in the England setup. Just a shame he's playing with a shower of shit in front of him
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Post by Davef on Jun 24, 2015 19:33:22 GMT
no not to blame then again, he didnt save either - either Looks like Benjamin Biscuit's got a rival.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 24, 2015 19:33:35 GMT
Stones is your typical modern England defender, judged more on their ability to bring the ball out rather than their defending. He's vastly overrared. Spot on mate and the media love in of certain players is quite frankly sickly.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 24, 2015 19:34:28 GMT
It must be behind the badge somewhere stitched because I bloody swear, I rarely see anyone take their man on in an England kit, Senior and u-21... pass to pass to pass for passing sakes.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 24, 2015 19:34:38 GMT
0 - 2 Promote Stones to the senior team! I tell my friends all the time that this player is overrated! Not reading the game quickly enough for my liking, but that's not very important to Woy I have understood!
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Post by sportsman on Jun 24, 2015 19:35:28 GMT
Butlands got a great range of passing. He can ping a ball 60yards to feet as good as Beckham!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 19:36:00 GMT
So the 'non rose tinted view in Stoke On trent' is that both those goals were unsavable ?
if yes
my arse !
just seen em again at half time in slow motion
not good form a goalkeepers perspective - not good at all
first flicks past his out stretched hand - second well, hes on his knees as it rolls past
and Butland could do nothing about either ? ( shyte in my view)
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jun 24, 2015 19:36:34 GMT
I actually quite like Stones, but you can tell this is his first game of the tornie coming back after an injury.
He's been fucking shite so far.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 24, 2015 19:43:56 GMT
I personally think the first was by him too fast. The second though, he looked blocked off visually from the Italian looking to flick it on just in front of him and I think he guessed wrong thinking it had a different touch on it. The main underlying problem is that the defenders let these two chances happen by letting their men walk right by them, not an arm or shoulder or bloody body near them... If that is the type of centerback England are hoping to become Seniors... wow.
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Post by scfc4ever22 on Jun 24, 2015 19:43:58 GMT
Sould've had that Jack - well in fact - both of them --fook Bego DO NOT LEAVE ! I bet you wanted bego to go when he made them errors
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Post by spiderpuss on Jun 24, 2015 19:46:43 GMT
Either way it's an all too familiar and depressing picture. England come up with zilch when something difficult approaches.
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Post by Waggy on Jun 24, 2015 19:47:33 GMT
0 - 2 Promote Stones to the senior team! I tell my friends all the time that this player is overrated! Not reading the game quickly enough for my liking, but that's not very important to Woy I have understood! Hes a young laddie who mourinho wants , it would be a good move for England as i think Mourinho would sort out any weakness better than Martinez. What one feels and what one has felt for a while old boy is that England lack creativity in the midfield area and this is where we constantly get left behind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 19:48:37 GMT
scfc4ever22 - nope Begovic still - one of the best half dozen keepers in the premier league
Jack is - work in progress
potential - no way good enough to directly replace Begovic like for like (IMHO)
YET !
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Post by Gods on Jun 24, 2015 19:51:41 GMT
scfc4ever22 - nope Begovic still - one of the best half dozen keepers in the premier league Jack is - work in progress potential - no way good enough to directly replace Begovic like for like (IMHO) YET ! I agree.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2015 19:55:07 GMT
So the 'non rose tinted view in Stoke On trent' is that both those goals were unsavable ? if yes my arse ! just seen em again at half time in slow motion not good form a goalkeepers perspective - not good at all first flicks past his out stretched hand - second well, hes on his knees as it rolls past and Butland could do nothing about either ? ( shyte in my view) Could have saved them - yes. Should have saved them - no.
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Post by Waggy on Jun 24, 2015 19:55:44 GMT
scfc4ever22 - nope Begovic still - one of the best half dozen keepers in the premier league Jack is - work in progress potential - no way good enough to directly replace Begovic like for like (IMHO) YET ! He is not at the same standard yet but the laddie requires games to gain experience unfortunately we may see a few mistakes , begovic has made a few this season i admit but one cant forget the games he has kept us in with marvellous saves. If bego goes we have got to give young jack his chance and has fans so have we despite any mistakes
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Post by fca47 on Jun 24, 2015 19:57:04 GMT
Don't rate Southgate at all, he's like Woy, he's fine in qualification against crap teams but is out thought against decent teams.
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Post by 2004 on Jun 24, 2015 19:57:30 GMT
Fuck me Ings is shit at shooting
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 19:59:24 GMT
Southgate - Another nice guy who loses
end of
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Post by LphPotter on Jun 24, 2015 19:59:16 GMT
Make some changes.
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Post by 2004 on Jun 24, 2015 20:01:32 GMT
Commentators already making excuses
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Post by scfc5 on Jun 24, 2015 20:02:00 GMT
Don't rate Southgate at all, he's like Woy, he's fine in qualification against crap teams but is out thought against decent teams. And he'll get Woy's job next
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 24, 2015 20:02:24 GMT
Where's Pugs when we need him,Gareth Southgate future England manager?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 20:02:44 GMT
yep they have had so many more seria A games
(excuse conveyor belt coughs into life)
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 24, 2015 20:03:02 GMT
Bunch of softies in the FA. couldn't Imagine a real grafter manager in charge in my lifetime.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2015 20:03:23 GMT
All so predictable. I'm glad we didn't go for Ings. He's going to be found out as a one season wonder. Stones will probably get 50 senior caps yet as a defender isn't fit to lace Ryans boots
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Post by Waggy on Jun 24, 2015 20:03:49 GMT
Southgate - Another nice guy who loses end of Yes the FA must get away from yes men i want a man with a bit of fight snd says what he feels. Only problem is the only chappie i can think of who is English like that is Alan Pardew , not sure if he would be the man for me.
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Post by march4 on Jun 24, 2015 20:04:46 GMT
I actually think some of our players look ok.
It is the incompetent tactics of Southgate that are the biggest issue.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 24, 2015 20:06:03 GMT
Southgate - Another nice guy who loses end of Yes the FA must get away from yes men i want a man with a bit of fight snd says what he feels. Only problem is the only chappie i can think of who is English like that is Alan Pardew , not sure if he would be the man for me. Big Sam, Pardew, Pearson... They are out there.
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Post by adamsson on Jun 24, 2015 20:07:04 GMT
Fuck me Ings is shit at shooting hope we are saying the same in August
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