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Post by tuum on Jul 9, 2015 18:11:07 GMT
Very good player but his attitude is very questionable and was what let him down at Blackburn too. Lets hope he never becomes a manager and has to deal with players like himself. It'll be interesting to see he gets on and when he throws his first strop. However good he could be he's not irreplaceable. He maybe difficult to replace with a player of the same style however we may go for someone more dynamic and with more goals in him. I agree. A very good player...but not a great player. I am not a fan of Whelan but he sure cleaned up some shit around NZonzi (and others) defensively. I would have preferred that he stayed but I do not consider him irreplaceable...quite the opposite in fact. I trust Hughes to get it right.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 9, 2015 18:13:32 GMT
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Post by robrigo on Jul 9, 2015 18:14:07 GMT
Bye Steven and thanks. Your replacement will be better.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 9, 2015 18:16:15 GMT
Bye Steven and thanks. Your replacement will be better. That's the spirit.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jul 9, 2015 18:16:39 GMT
Less than 48 hours from agreeing fee to signature. Stoke please take note, that's how to conduct your transfer business, none of this prolonged peeing about that is symptomatic of most of our buying deals. As regards Zonz, many thanks for your massive contribution to Stoke over the last few years and all the very best to you at Sevilla. OK that's the past, let's move on.
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Post by robrigo on Jul 9, 2015 18:17:02 GMT
Bye Steven and thanks. Your replacement will be better. That's the spirit.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 9, 2015 18:21:31 GMT
C'est la vie as they say in the dordogne...good luck Zonz
Vis Unita Fortior and all that hey Stokies!!!!
BTW - who is going to be on official 'Nzonzi watch' to see how he fares this coming season?
Bags not me !
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Post by baystokie on Jul 9, 2015 18:22:45 GMT
A very very good midfield player coming into his prime. Hardly missed a game improving as he went. He wanted champions league football and got it, I cant help but feel we sold cheap again. even -given the circumstances we keep doing this and it really hacks me off What hacks you off - the fact that he should have been sold before coming to final contract year OR that we should have held on to him until we got a bid for around £10m failing which, held on until we eventually had to let him go for nothing?
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Post by Sfance on Jul 9, 2015 18:24:11 GMT
I didn't think he'd go, and I wish he hadn't - he really was key to our success last year. But I think he'll probably end up regretting it. It'll likely be much harder for him to make the same impression (on the pitch) over there as it was for him at Stoke. Hope for his sake that it'll not be another Neil Franklin deal. But the grass is not always greener, especially when it's already pretty green where you're at.
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Post by hartzchoco on Jul 9, 2015 18:30:47 GMT
Less than 48 hours from agreeing fee to signature. Stoke please take note, that's how to conduct your transfer business, none of this prolonged peeing about that is symptomatic of most of our buying deals. As regards Zonz, many thanks for your massive contribution to Stoke over the last few years and all the very best to you at Sevilla. OK that's the past, let's move on. Sevilla fans didn't even have time to do a 300 page thread regarding the transfer. They so got ripped off.
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Post by baystokie on Jul 9, 2015 18:33:38 GMT
Less than 48 hours from agreeing fee to signature. Stoke please take note, that's how to conduct your transfer business, none of this prolonged peeing about that is symptomatic of most of our buying deals. As regards Zonz, many thanks for your massive contribution to Stoke over the last few years and all the very best to you at Sevilla. OK that's the past, let's move on. Transfers much simpler when you know that your target is refusing to re-sign for his present club, that he is near the end of his contract AND he has openly spoken of his desire to join a club who will participate in CL. Thus, Seville held a bigger carrot than others. Furthermore, apart from Leicester, they did not appear to have very much competition for his signature - which also helps I suspect it would have been much harder for many clubs, here or in Europe, who did not have CL qualification, to have done such a quick deal. IMHO
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 9, 2015 18:34:34 GMT
Less than 48 hours from agreeing fee to signature. Stoke please take note, that's how to conduct your transfer business, none of this prolonged peeing about that is symptomatic of most of our buying deals. As regards Zonz, many thanks for your massive contribution to Stoke over the last few years and all the very best to you at Sevilla. OK that's the past, let's move on. That's because Nzonzi didn't have any other proper options, the players we're after have lots of clubs chasing them. Nothing to do with how we approach signings, more that we're trying to bring in better players.
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Post by Plave on Jul 9, 2015 18:36:30 GMT
Good luck to him, has been fantastic for us and integral part in the evolution of our style.
He's gone to a bigger club for less money which is all too rare in footballers.
Shame there will be many insular small time wankers round here slagging him off for it.
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Post by jameselfletcher on Jul 9, 2015 18:39:46 GMT
While (if all the reports of his antics are true) I don't approve of the way he handled his business, I hope he thrives in Spain and that he achieves his dream of playing for his country. He was a intricate part of our team and gave us some great memories, but no player is irreplaceable and I am sure that Sparky will find a replacement and will help us to continue our climb and transition.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 9, 2015 18:40:57 GMT
He can fuck off,
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Post by liathroid on Jul 9, 2015 18:58:16 GMT
bit strong their ldk
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 19:11:36 GMT
Very good player but his attitude is very questionable and was what let him down at Blackburn too. Lets hope he never becomes a manager and has to deal with players like himself. It'll be interesting to see he gets on and when he throws his first strop. However good he could be he's not irreplaceable. He maybe difficult to replace with a player of the same style however we may go for someone more dynamic and with more goals in him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 9, 2015 19:16:26 GMT
If a player dunner want to play for Stoke City,FUCK HIM.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 19:33:21 GMT
Thanks SNZ for all your efforts over the years Thanks Seville for £7m If we ever meet in the big time again you will be shown respect before the kick off, after that you can FUCK RIGHT OFF Ps She was a slag anyway
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2015 19:41:54 GMT
I wonder if Sevilla were aware of the 'little issue' he has over here before they signed him. Could it be the reason he missed the awards evening?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 9, 2015 19:51:41 GMT
Could it be the reason he missed the awards evening? Oooo maybe. What do you know Bayern He beat a lot of players to the award that night.....
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Post by st3mark on Jul 9, 2015 19:56:47 GMT
He won't be replaced with someone as good as him. Say we spend £15million on a like for like replacement, how can we convince them to sign? N'zonzi was literally irreplaceable. Massive hole in the team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 20:02:07 GMT
He won't be replaced with someone as good as him. Say we spend £15million on a like for like replacement, how can we convince them to sign? N'zonzi was literally irreplaceable. Massive hole in the team. We will evolve, N'zonzi was good but not the be all and end all of the team, and that's what it is, a team.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 9, 2015 20:03:36 GMT
He won't be replaced with someone as good as him. Say we spend £15million on a like for like replacement, how can we convince them to sign? N'zonzi was literally irreplaceable. Massive hole in the team. Wrong
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Post by redwhite on Jul 9, 2015 20:13:47 GMT
I know Pulis gets stick for a lot of his signings, but he's pulled off some excellent ones as well. For me, N'zonzi is right at the top of his list with Fuller, Shawcross etc in terms of the impact he's had for the price we paid. A fantastic piece of business. N'zonzi has been the heart of our team since he joined. Everything goes through him, and his composure and ability to relieve pressure is absolutely pivotal to our style of play, and is criminally underrated by those that think every player in the team is there to score goals or stop goals. He has been an excellent addition to our team and his last season with us was his best. We can look back fondly at his final appearance for Stoke; perhaps the best individual performance I've seen from one of our players and it was capped off by curling the fifth goal into the top corner before half time. I didn't like his attitude off the pitch, the summer histrionics were tedious, but he was sublime on the pitch and that's all that really matters. He didn't let us down when he put on the shirt. Sadly, our best players will eventually outgrow us: his desire to play in the Champions League isn't something we could give him and from a career perspective he did what he had to do and he's now playing at a top Spanish team who are at a much higher level than us, where a player of his talent should be. I, for one, hope he does well in the rest of his career; he has done easily enough to earn my respect for his talent. All the best Steve, it's been a pleasure.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 9, 2015 20:15:27 GMT
He won't be replaced with someone as good as him. Say we spend £15million on a like for like replacement, how can we convince them to sign? N'zonzi was literally irreplaceable. Massive hole in the team. Pisser. Liverpool losing Suarez is a loss, stoke losing Stein is a loss,spurs losing bale is a loss.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 20:17:42 GMT
I wonder if Sevilla were aware of the 'little issue' he has over here before they signed him. Please go on I'm intrigued
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 20:18:04 GMT
Mark Hughes took N'Zonzi and improved him within 12 months. The two players were like chalk and cheese.
Why the doom mongering and lack of trust in a bloke who has already done it, to repeat it with one of his own, cherry picked signings?
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Post by stoke4eva on Jul 9, 2015 20:31:07 GMT
Nice of n'zonzi to thank the stoke fans ay!!. Threatens to leave every season but we still sung his name week in week out. Now he leaves without even has much as a cheers.
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Post by Gifton on Jul 9, 2015 20:32:57 GMT
I know Pulis gets stick for a lot of his signings, but he's pulled off some excellent ones as well. For me, N'zonzi is right at the top of his list with Fuller, Shawcross etc in terms of the impact he's had for the price we paid. A fantastic piece of business. N'zonzi has been the heart of our team since he joined. Everything goes through him, and his composure and ability to relieve pressure is absolutely pivotal to our style of play, and is criminally underrated by those that think every player in the team is there to score goals or stop goals. He has been an excellent addition to our team and his last season with us was his best. We can look back fondly at his final appearance for Stoke; perhaps the best individual performance I've seen from one of our players and it was capped off by curling the fifth goal into the top corner before half time. I didn't like his attitude off the pitch, the summer histrionics were tedious, but he was sublime on the pitch and that's all that really matters. He didn't let us down when he put on the shirt. Sadly, our best players will eventually outgrow us: his desire to play in the Champions League isn't something we could give him and from a career perspective he did what he had to do and he's now playing at a top Spanish team who are at a much higher level than us, where a player of his talent should be. I, for one, hope he does well in the rest of his career; he has done easily enough to earn my respect for his talent. All the best Steve, it's been a pleasure. I logged on just to like this. N'Zonzi used to annoy me for constantly slowing down play. A summer or two ago I'd be happy to cash in on him. That's why I'm not a football manager! I never realised he just needed better players to be around him! I hope he does well and I will follow his career. Not a full Stoke legend but a hugely impressive player to have graced us with his presence for a few years. Also worth noting N'Zonzi is the first player in a long time we've lost to a bigger club. Something that will happen more and more if we're to progress! Enjoy what we have, while we have it. It's the modern way! Gutted today but there are gems out there to be found both in terms of replacing N'Zonzi and in general. Let's hope Hughes and his team can unearth a couple!
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