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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 15, 2015 19:16:40 GMT
about the amount of non british players we seem to be linked with/signing?Just concerns me that we've ALWAYS had a british spine to our team and hopefully this can continue with these players around them.Mark Hughes has been fantastic in the transfer market and long may it continue but am i right to have a few nagging doubts about this?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 19:19:09 GMT
It's only a problem if you have a manager that can't handle them.
Do we reckon Hughes can?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 15, 2015 19:21:12 GMT
It's only a problem if you have a manager that can't handle them. Do we reckon Hughes can? He sure can mate but wasn't his failing at QPR down to signing alot of Johnny Foreigners? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 19:22:48 GMT
It's only a problem if you have a manager that can't handle them. Do we reckon Hughes can? He sure can mate but wasn't his failing at QPR down to signing alot of Johnny Foreigners? It was but how many were his signings given the evidence we've since seen at that club? |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 15, 2015 19:24:50 GMT
He sure can mate but wasn't his failing at QPR down to signing alot of Johnny Foreigners? It was but how many were his signings given the evidence we've since seen at that club? Good point mate and maybe i worry about stupid things when i should just enjoy the ride  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2015 19:25:30 GMT
The only issue will be the rules. How many homegrown players have we got? How many do we need? When are Dyke's new rules coming into place? How many homegrown players will we then need?
That is/could be an issue.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 15, 2015 19:27:57 GMT
At least most of 'em speak Spanish or German (or both!)
I do think there's something to be said for a strong domestic core, and I think it definitely helped us in the Pulis years - but if the value's not there in our price rage, what can you do?
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Post by jeycov on Jun 15, 2015 19:30:53 GMT
about the amount of non british players we seem to be linked with/signing?Just concerns me that we've ALWAYS had a british spine to our team and hopefully this can continue with these players around them.Mark Hughes has been fantastic in the transfer market and long may it continue but am i right to have a few nagging doubts about this? He's played in both Spain and Germany so I'm very confident that he has excellent links with players either playing there or are Spanish or German. It will be interesting to see if the likes of Shenton ( and other academy prospects) remain with the first team squad or are given experience in the lower leagues I would like to see a couple of British players added to the squad should a "best fit" option be available. Early days in this transfer window - once one or two of the big clubs start buying, the merry go round begins |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 15, 2015 19:31:00 GMT
about the amount of non british players we seem to be linked with/signing?Just concerns me that we've ALWAYS had a british spine to our team and hopefully this can continue with these players around them.Mark Hughes has been fantastic in the transfer market and long may it continue but am i right to have a few nagging doubts about this? Have to agree with you but more for the reason of the number of home grown players in our squad and meeting the league rules. This is why I am really keen that we go balls out to get Kieran Trippier for our problem position and similarly look at home grown players for the other openings we have. |
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Post by werrington on Jun 15, 2015 19:32:49 GMT
It's only a problem if you have a manager that can't handle them. Do we reckon Hughes can? He sure can mate but wasn't his failing at QPR down to signing alot of Johnny Foreigners? He didn't fail at QPR mate as has been proved with what goes on there For years that club has been run like an out of control juggernaut and its again been proved this season |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 15, 2015 19:35:09 GMT
Getting the doom in early?
At least wait for a couple of losses first chuck.
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Post by slother on Jun 15, 2015 19:35:27 GMT
It's also a problem as far as the rules are concerned. It makes signing characters like Cattermole much more likely than it might otherwise be. Proven Prem midfielder, cheapish and knows the rules of cricket.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 15, 2015 19:36:17 GMT
At least most of 'em speak Spanish or German (or both!) I do think there's something to be said for a strong domestic core, and I think it definitely helped us in the Pulis years - but if the value's not there in our price rage, what can you do? Who speaks German apart from Wolly and Marko? Eric? Edit... Diouf I guess... Bachmann Incidentally, does anyone know what command of Spanish and German Les has? I remember his pronunciation of Wollscheid's name at the first presser sounded rather expert... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 19:37:10 GMT
A spine of potentially ..
..........Bego/Jack........
......Ryan.....Muni.......
..........Fonzy............
..........Bojan............
.........Diouf.............
If that's a spine of the team yes please it's fucking awesome.
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Post by stokemark on Jun 15, 2015 19:37:24 GMT
Can't say I'm enthralled about this lad, Woolly and the keeper
We seem to have moved from Poundland to B & M
Too many average foreigners could definitely spell problems for morale - ask a Newcastle fan
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2015 19:39:21 GMT
Daniel Bachmann (G) Austria HG I think
NA Asmir Begovic (G) Bosnia-Herzegovina
NA Jack Butland (G) England HG
NA Jakob Haugaard (G) Denmark
NA Phil Bardsley (D) Scotland HG
NA Geoff Cameron (D) USA
NA Robert Huth (D) Germany HG
NA Marc Muniesa (D) Spain
NA Erik Pieters (D) Netherlands
NA Ryan Shawcross (D) England HG
NA Dionatan Teixeira (D) Slovakia
NA Marc Wilson (D) Ireland HG
NA Philipp Wollscheid (D) Germany
NA Charlie Adam (M) Scotland
NA Stephen Ireland (M) Ireland HG
NA Jamie Ness (M) Scotland
NA Steven Nzonzi (M) France
NA Oliver Shenton (M) England HG
NA Steven Sidwell (M) England HG
NA Glenn Whelan (M) Ireland HG
NA Marko Arnautovic (F) Austria
NA Mame Biram Diouf (F) Senegal
NA Peter Crouch (F) England HG
NA Bojan Krkic (F) Spain
NA Peter Odemwingie (F) Nigeria
NA Jonathan Walters (F) HG
That's 12 Homegrown players.
1 who we won't want in the 25-Shenton
1 who I hope isn't in the 25-Bachmann
6 who could easily leave (Crouch, Walters, Sidwell, Ireland, Bardsley, Wilson)
1 who definitely will (Huth)
And then Whelan, Shawcross and Butland.
It's going to be an issue if we want to improve.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 15, 2015 19:40:55 GMT
He sure can mate but wasn't his failing at QPR down to signing alot of Johnny Foreigners? He didn't fail at QPR mate as gas been proved with what goes on there For years that club has been run like an out of control juggernaut and its again been proved this season Failing is probably the wrong word then mate but he did sign some shit though along with alot of other managers there[like most managers do before you say  ].Like has been said though what influence he had on signings isn't known but we have to keep the British spine imo which has seen us progress over the years.Lets just hope Sparky continues to bring in the sort of players we've seen in the last 2 seasons though. |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 15, 2015 19:41:37 GMT
Getting the doom in early? At least wait for a couple of losses first chuck. Do one WUM |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 19:42:25 GMT
Our foreign players seem some of the best in terms of attitude, our squad has a real sense of togetherness.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 15, 2015 19:45:04 GMT
At least most of 'em speak Spanish or German (or both!) I do think there's something to be said for a strong domestic core, and I think it definitely helped us in the Pulis years - but if the value's not there in our price rage, what can you do? Who speaks German apart from Wolly and Marko? Eric? Ha! Well, that's about it! Wollscheid is apparently fluent in Spanish as well. Presumably Joselu will add to the German (and Spanish) crew. And Bego is said to be fluent (although doubt he'll be here much longer!) Bachmann? And Diouf must have a smattering (although French is presumably his first language which explains why he seems close to the Zonz?) |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 15, 2015 19:45:23 GMT
Getting the doom in early? At least wait for a couple of losses first chuck. Do one WUM I think I'll stay. |
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Post by werrington on Jun 15, 2015 19:46:51 GMT
He didn't fail at QPR mate as gas been proved with what goes on there For years that club has been run like an out of control juggernaut and its again been proved this season Failing is probably the wrong word then mate but he did sign some shit though along with alot of other managers there[like most managers do before you say ].Like has been said though what influence he had on signings isn't known but we have to keep the British spine imo which has seen us progress over the years.Lets just hope Sparky continues to bring in the sort of players we've seen in the last 2 seasons though. No offence mate as none intended but it's sounding like when Pulis left and many on here were saying nobody could take on that squad as we'd be relegated with it Hughes has come in and proved he could ( and more ) and with Muniesa Bojan etc etc it looks like he well and truly does his homework so I'm not worried at all I do agree to a certain extent with you mutts but QPR is not a good barometer |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jun 15, 2015 19:47:47 GMT
Our foreign players seem some of the best in terms of attitude, our squad has a real sense of togetherness. Yep just look at Muniesa. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2015 19:50:11 GMT
So at the minute we need 8 homegrown players.
Butland, Whelan and Shawcross.
Plus any 5 from Bachmann, Wilson, Bardsley, Sidwell, Walters, Ireland, Crouch
Which makes it tricky to get the quality in that we need imo.
We don't Bachmann as third choice, he's not that good.
Wilson and Ireland imo will stay.
Signing Moses helps the situation and means we could get rid of a Crouch/Walters and keep the homegrown tally up.
It makes getting rid of Sidwell and Bardsley difficult unless we go home grown.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jun 15, 2015 19:50:42 GMT
Failing is probably the wrong word then mate but he did sign some shit though along with alot of other managers there[like most managers do before you say ].Like has been said though what influence he had on signings isn't known but we have to keep the British spine imo which has seen us progress over the years.Lets just hope Sparky continues to bring in the sort of players we've seen in the last 2 seasons though. No offence mate as none intended but it's sounding like when Pulis left and many on here were saying nobody could take on that squad as we'd be relegated with it Hughes has come in and proved he could ( and more ) and with Muniesa Bojan etc etc it looks like he well and truly does his homework so I'm not worried at all I do agree to a certain extent with you mate but QPR is not a good barometer None taken mate and i was probably one of the posters as you know Hughes has come in and got us playing football we all could only have dreamed of 2 seasons a go and long may it continue.I just want it to last and a mixture of British talent is vital imo. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 15, 2015 19:50:58 GMT
Is Bego homegrown?
I think he is but he'll leave too.....
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 15, 2015 19:55:15 GMT
Is Bego homegrown? I think he is but he'll leave too..... Yeah. He is apparently, but as you say, doubt he'll be here. 1 *Begovic, Asmir
2 *Butland, Jack
3 Haugaard, Jakob
4 *Bardsley, Phillip Anthony
5 Cameron, Geoff Scott
6 Do Nascimento Teixeira, Dionatan
7 Muniesa Martinez, Marc
8 Pieters, Erik
9 *Shawcross, Ryan James
10 *Wilson, Marc David
11 Wollscheid, Philipp
12 Adam, Charles Graham
13 Arnautovic, Marko
14 *Ireland, Stephen James
15 Nzonzi, Steven Nkemboanza Mike Christopher
16 *Sidwell, Steven James
17 *Whelan, Glenn David
18 *Crouch, Peter James
19 Diouf, Mame Biram
20 Krkic, Bojan
21 Odemwingie, Peter
22 *Walters, Jonathan Ronald
23 Joselu?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 20:01:29 GMT
Our foreign players seem some of the best in terms of attitude, our squad has a real sense of togetherness. Yep just look at Muniesa. Or Bojan, Geoff, 'Wingie or honestly almost any of the foreign lads. Even N'Zonzi smiles and he is French, I didn't know they were capable of it |
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Post by djduncanjames on Jun 15, 2015 20:02:46 GMT
Is Bego homegrown? I think he is but he'll leave too..... Yeah. He is apparently, but as you say, doubt he'll be here. 1 *Begovic, Asmir
2 *Butland, Jack
3 Haugaard, Jakob
4 *Bardsley, Phillip Anthony
5 Cameron, Geoff Scott
6 Do Nascimento Teixeira, Dionatan
7 Muniesa Martinez, Marc
8 Pieters, Erik
9 *Shawcross, Ryan James
10 *Wilson, Marc David
11 Wollscheid, Philipp
12 Adam, Charles Graham
13 Arnautovic, Marko
14 *Ireland, Stephen James
15 Nzonzi, Steven Nkemboanza Mike Christopher
16 *Sidwell, Steven James
17 *Whelan, Glenn David
18 *Crouch, Peter James
19 Diouf, Mame Biram
20 Krkic, Bojan
21 Odemwingie, Peter
22 *Walters, Jonathan Ronald
23 Joselu?
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Find it funny Zonz's middle name is Mike. Not Michael, Mike. Wtf? |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 15, 2015 20:06:12 GMT
Sort of, but the sad fact is that the few English players capable of playing at our standard command fees of £15 million and up, whereas we can buy players of the same or better quality from abroad for much, much less. Greg Dyke really needs to understand that that is a big factor behind the decline in English PL players.
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].Like has been said though what influence he had on signings isn't known but we have to keep the British spine imo which has seen us progress over the years.Lets just hope Sparky continues to bring in the sort of players we've seen in the last 2 seasons though.
