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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 11, 2015 7:15:53 GMT
Is this thread for real?. It's as real as the 'we've lost our identity' threads that will pop up next season after a couple of losses.
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Post by foster on Jun 11, 2015 7:50:06 GMT
It would have been nice to hear a plan b to Scholes' dick swinging 'aspirational' quotes of yesterday. He says we're competing with teams outside the top '3,4, half dozen in Europe' at the same time as we're about to lose out on Soares to Southampton. Nothing wrong in losing to Southampton but he should have said outside the top 20 teams in Europe which is more realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 9:23:59 GMT
I don't understand something. Please help me out.
We have fans who are getting concerned in early June yet a lot of those weren't concerned under the previous manager with his russian roulette deadline day tactics.
Why?
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Post by foster on Jun 11, 2015 9:40:03 GMT
Let's be realistic here. We've been officially linked with probably about 10 players so far and in all likelihood we may get 1 or none.
I'm not concerned though because we'll pull one or two out of the blue.
AND even if we don't. Our squad is decent enough to manage just fine until January.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 11, 2015 9:40:34 GMT
With only 82 days of the transfer window left, I'd say anyone who isn't a knee-jerky, over-reacty, knicker-wetting bag of stress and panic can't call themselves a proper Stoke fan. Oh yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 9:58:54 GMT
Yes we should be pissing our knickers and crying a bit.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 11, 2015 10:02:19 GMT
It's the middle of June and none of our reported major targets have moved elsewhere yet.
What's the fuss about?
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 11, 2015 10:42:04 GMT
I am quite relaxed about progress, more so than a couple of weeks ago.
I said on here some time ago that it looks like there will be a lot of clubs "shaking out" a lot of players due to unsatisfactory club performances and new management. Liverpool, ManU, ManC, Spurs, Newcastle, Villa, Sunderland all come immediately to mind; I'm sure there are others.
Consequently there will be lot of good players coming onto the market place when these teams start acquiring their new talent.
The sort of names Stoke have been associated with this year, particularly in the last few weeks, make me believe that PC will back MH for big signings and the club are prepared to go to a higher standard for the players we need to win a competition and get into Europe. It's just a case of waiting for the ripe apples to fall. Stoke are trying their best to get players out of contract, not chasing after second rate players from relegated teams, and if unsuccessful in signing one of the current targets then they will be tapping the other clubs for players they would like to buy off them, which I guess they are already doing.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jun 30, 2015 22:01:30 GMT
So are we concerned now, it being the end of June
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 30, 2015 22:03:49 GMT
So are we concerned now, it being the end of June Can't we at least wait until the window actually opens before we shit our kecks?
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Post by LphPotter on Jun 30, 2015 22:04:16 GMT
So are we concerned now, it being the end of June No.
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Post by bettyswallox on Jun 30, 2015 22:04:37 GMT
So are we concerned now, it being the end of June We signed a striker for £6million, plus a centre-half and goalkeeper that add depth and will end up starting a few games each. So, still no.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 22:04:49 GMT
A tad concerned yes. If/when Fonzy goes I will be proper concerned.
No one of real quality looks close to signing and we will have sold 3 of our better players.
Luckily there's shit loads of time left and we do have a good squad. But losing Fonzy is massive.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 30, 2015 22:08:49 GMT
FFs, we've signed Adam, Joselu, Haugaard and Cameron recently... Were likely to see Bego leave but we have Butland. I'd only be concerned if Nzonzi left and we didn't have someone already coming in. Other than that were in fine shape going into July. Early still.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 22:12:45 GMT
FFs, we've signed Adam, Joselu, Haugaard and Cameron recently... Were likely to see Bego leave but we have Butland. I'd only be concerned if Nzonzi left and we didn't have someone already coming in. Other than that were in fine shape going into July. Early still. So two players we already had who neither should be in our starting XI when everyone's fit, a goalie who looks like a project and a striker we didn't overly need but he does seem ok. Mint.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 30, 2015 22:14:41 GMT
FFs, we've signed Adam, Joselu, Haugaard and Cameron recently... Were likely to see Bego leave but we have Butland. I'd only be concerned if Nzonzi left and we didn't have someone already coming in. Other than that were in fine shape going into July. Early still. So two players we already had who neither should be in our starting XI when everyone's fit, a goalie who looks like a project and a striker we didn't overly need but he does seem ok. Mint. Getting worried are ya?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 30, 2015 22:16:15 GMT
A tad concerned yes. If/when Fonzy goes I will be proper concerned. No one of real quality looks close to signing and we will have sold 3 of our better players. Luckily there's shit loads of time left and we do have a good squad. But losing Fonzy is massive. Yeah - not concerned as such, although it's looking like Zonz will go and that will be massive. We're still looking strong, but work to do. He clearly thinks we need a right-back. Everyone misses out on targets, but potentially missing out on 2 of our top ones in Soares and Kono, and losing 2 of our absolute crown jewels for the first summer since promotion is going to make it bumpier than you'd like. In an alternate reality, we could've been sitting here with Bego (I like Butland but Bego is much better at this point), N'Zonzi, Kono, Soares and Moses.
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Post by britvic72 on Jun 30, 2015 22:20:32 GMT
FFs, we've signed Adam, Joselu, Haugaard and Cameron recently... Were likely to see Bego leave but we have Butland. I'd only be concerned if Nzonzi left and we didn't have someone already coming in. Other than that were in fine shape going into July. Early still. So two players we already had who neither should be in our starting XI when everyone's fit, a goalie who looks like a project and a striker we didn't overly need but he does seem ok. Mint. g Plus 2 more in Bojan and Odem who also signed a new contract so can we count that as 3 then?
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Post by foster on Jun 30, 2015 22:22:55 GMT
A tad concerned yes. If/when Fonzy goes I will be proper concerned. No one of real quality looks close to signing and we will have sold 3 of our better players. Luckily there's shit loads of time left and we do have a good squad. But losing Fonzy is massive. Yeah - not concerned as such, although it's looking like Zonz will go and that will be massive. We're still looking strong, but work to do. He clearly thinks we need a right-back. Everyone misses out on targets, but potentially missing out on 2 of our top ones in Soares and Kono, and losing 2 of our absolute crown jewels for the first summer since promotion is going to make it bumpier than you'd like. In an alternate reality, we could've been sitting here with Bego (I like Butland but Bego is much better at this point), N'Zonzi, Kono, Soares and Moses. Hmmm Soares and Kono, two signings I couldn't give a fuck about. Strange how people see things differently.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 30, 2015 22:26:31 GMT
Yeah - not concerned as such, although it's looking like Zonz will go and that will be massive. We're still looking strong, but work to do. He clearly thinks we need a right-back. Everyone misses out on targets, but potentially missing out on 2 of our top ones in Soares and Kono, and losing 2 of our absolute crown jewels for the first summer since promotion is going to make it bumpier than you'd like. In an alternate reality, we could've been sitting here with Bego (I like Butland but Bego is much better at this point), N'Zonzi, Kono, Soares and Moses. Hmmm Soares and Kono, two signings I couldn't give a fuck about. Strange how people see things differently. What we think of them is neither here nor there though, is it? I'd never heard of Soares and had only vague memories of Kono playing well against England a couple of years ago. But, of all the vaguely realistic options in the world, Hughes had IDd them as his chosen men, and will now be on to plan Bs. None of this means we're in trouble, but it's not ideal
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Post by swampySCFC on Jun 30, 2015 22:27:38 GMT
Not about who we have got its about who we have tried to get (because presumably we think we need them) and failed , coupled with the unrest in present ranks there is no positive news.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 22:28:29 GMT
Not about who we have got its about who we have tried to get (because presumably we think we need them) and failed , coupled with the unrest in present ranks there is no positive news. Unrest? Come again....
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 30, 2015 22:33:12 GMT
Not at the moment.
We will miss bego and NZonzi but we survived without them in our first year in the PL and no players bigger than the team.
Bego - great servant but didn't "carry us" last year like previously. In Jack we have a capable replacement however I do think it's important that we get in a safe experienced no.2 just in case his confidence goes as he's still very young.
NZonzi - On his day brilliant but did have a habit of slowing the game down on occasions. Will be missed but a replacement could add to the team in other ways (goals etc) Replacing his holding of the ball and strength will be difficult.
Huth - Bit part player. Great servant though and his character will be missed. For this reason it's important we keep the "heart" of the team in Super John and Whelo. We still need that Stoke fight.
Signs are that we are bringing players in and with the return of Bojan and Odom (hopefully back to there best) we should still be strong. I think we'll bring in Badu, Roberto (hopefully), experienced no.2 GK, RW and LW. The way we play bringing in 2 wide strikers is really important. Exciting times.
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Post by adamsson on Jun 30, 2015 22:36:45 GMT
Not about who we have got its about who we have tried to get (because presumably we think we need them) and failed , coupled with the unrest in present ranks there is no positive news. Your not a glass half full kind of guy are you
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 22:37:32 GMT
Not at the moment. We will miss bego and NZonzi but we survived without them in our first year in the PL and no players bigger than the team. Bego - great servant but didn't "carry us" last year like previously. In Jack we have a capable replacement however I do think it's important that we get in a safe experienced no.2 just in case his confidence goes as he's still very young. NZonzi - On his day brilliant but did have a habit of slowing the game down on occasions. Will be missed but a replacement could add to the team in other ways (goals etc) Replacing his holding of the ball and strength will be difficult. Huth - Bit part player. Great servant though and his character will be missed. For this reason it's important we keep the "heart" of the team in Super John and Whelo. We still need that Stoke fight. Signs are that we are bringing players in and with the return of Bojan and Odom (hopefully back to there best) we should still be strong. I think we'll bring in Badu, Roberto (hopefully), experienced no.2 GK, RW and LW. The way we play bringing in 2 wide strikers is really important. Exciting times. I know we will but there are no signs we are bringing in players......that's how we usually do business mind!
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Post by foster on Jun 30, 2015 22:42:54 GMT
Hmmm Soares and Kono, two signings I couldn't give a fuck about. Strange how people see things differently. What we think of them is neither here nor there though, is it? I'd never heard of Soares and had only vague memories of Kono playing well against England a couple of years ago. But, of all the vaguely realistic options in the world, Hughes had IDd them as his chosen men, and will now be on to plan Bs. None of this means we're in trouble, but it's not ideal You assume that they're our plan A. Joselu came out of nowhere. Most recent signings have been quick and under the radar. Our plan A targets are unknown as far as I'm concerned. We'll get a couple of out of the blue signings yet.
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Post by daveypotter on Jun 30, 2015 22:44:12 GMT
I'll only be concerned if we haven't improved the squad by the first day of pre-season. I'm quite relaxed at the moment and there's nobody joined any of our rivals that have made me think "shit wish we'd got them".
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 30, 2015 22:45:50 GMT
What we think of them is neither here nor there though, is it? I'd never heard of Soares and had only vague memories of Kono playing well against England a couple of years ago. But, of all the vaguely realistic options in the world, Hughes had IDd them as his chosen men, and will now be on to plan Bs. None of this means we're in trouble, but it's not ideal You assume that they're our plan A. Joselu came out of nowhere. Most recent signings have been quick and under the radar. Our plan A targets are unknown as far as I'm concerned. We'll get a couple of out of the blue signings yet. So you have a bloke at the training ground looking at cars presumably you think he's ready to sign (we fucked up here by not locking him in the dungeon) and he's not a plan A target? Said bloke then joins a better club.....
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jun 30, 2015 22:53:32 GMT
Surely one or two will come in by the 3rd? I'm happy with Arnie on the left although it seems most want Moses there, we definitely need a right winger.
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Post by Gods on Jun 30, 2015 23:36:02 GMT
I'm concerned about our ability to hang on to the good players we already have.
Begovic, N'Zonzi and Huth were the rocks on which we stood, they were Stoke City.
If we were really to lose these 3 then I'd like to think more energy will go in to adequately replacing them and less in to throwing the kitchen sink at an unproven Ukrainian left winger.
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