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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 9, 2015 17:27:16 GMT
When it comes to attracting players. Not any player though, but a self confessed fail fan who lives a stones throw from the ground.
Some are getting frustrated that we might not be able to stave off competition from Everton, Seville et al whilst our dear neighbours, self proclaimed pride of the potteries, can't even fight off the advances of Bury.
:-)
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Post by breakonthrough on Jun 9, 2015 17:32:55 GMT
Couldn't be happening to a nicer bunch of....
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Post by lancer on Jun 9, 2015 17:34:41 GMT
Bury...the Vale. That sounds just about right.
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Post by TheBra1n on Jun 9, 2015 17:41:18 GMT
im always wary of ripping the piss out the fail, it isnt long ago we were drowning in the same septic tank they live in
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Post by sportsman on Jun 9, 2015 17:43:10 GMT
I think for the last two years we haven't competed with bury! We've still done ok though haven't we?
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Post by chad on Jun 9, 2015 17:44:55 GMT
I used to like going to Bury
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 9, 2015 17:49:35 GMT
They offered Pope a 70% pay cut, I'm not really surprised.
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Post by thevoid on Jun 9, 2015 21:20:24 GMT
The lure of Bury and their 2,000 crowds is more than the Fail can offer. They're not happy in Bozlem  |
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Post by lancer on Jun 9, 2015 21:21:04 GMT
I used to like going to Bury Bury are to black pudding, what Stoke are to oatcakes.  |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Jun 9, 2015 21:24:28 GMT
Happy memories of Bury, Adrian Heath nearly ran me over in the car park.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 9, 2015 21:25:12 GMT
Have a pay cut or stay on your current wage/better than offered wage and train at Carrington day in and day out. They seem to be a club on the up.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jun 10, 2015 11:06:16 GMT
You've got a local lad, and a true Vale fan to boot, averaging in excess of 17 goals a season for 4 successive seasons, and he insists that what he really wants to do is stay and play for the club he loves. So, as Chairman, how do you handle the near-impossible task of getting him to stay at you shite club and bale you out week after week? Norm clearly had it all worked out..........
a. Offer him a new contract on A THIRD of his current wage.
b. Announce in an interview with local radio that you KNOW you can get someone as good/better for less money than you are offering him.
I'm just completely flabbergasted that he has decided to accept a three year deal with Bury.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 10, 2015 11:52:46 GMT
The Smurf is basically a poor man's Fernandes from QPR. He has a little bit of money, but no idea of how to run a football club.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 10, 2015 11:56:59 GMT
I loved the interview on radio stoke last week when he (smurf) stated that if the fans matched the ambition of the club in regards to season ticket sales, he'd sign Remie Streete!?!
Who? Exactly!
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jun 10, 2015 12:15:18 GMT
Pope & Leon Clarke upfront is goals at that Level, 10/1 for promotion.
Not forgetting Tom Soares either of course.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jun 10, 2015 12:44:09 GMT
I think there is a lot of arrogance and one upmanship on this board regarding our current position. Obviously people with short memories or too young to remember where we came from.
Today, Vale and Crewe don't have the money or good fortune that we have and have to manage with what they've got to merely survive. Pope was from all accounts on a contract at Vale that consumed a very large percentage of their wage bill and it was unsustainable. I think Vale's chairman/owner has made mistakes along the steep learning curve that he has had to take but what people shouldn't lose sight of is the fact that he saved their club from extinction and that he has far better financial acumen than 99.5% of supporters of football clubs. Basically, Pope, on the wages he was on, was a luxury they just could not afford and the Smurf should be applauded for doing his best to ensure the Vale can continue to survive in a very difficult environment. There but for the Grace, etc., etc. Vale are not our rivals, they are just another team representing our great city.
We should be looking to help them by loaning out our up and coming players, with massive mutual benefits.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 12:53:39 GMT
I can remember the mid to late 90s when they were both above us. I can't remember much sympathy for a club whose supporters used to go through the gates of both clubs in years gone by.
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Post by This is the year on Jun 10, 2015 12:54:40 GMT
I think there is a lot of arrogance and one upmanship on this board regarding our current position. Obviously people with short memories or too young to remember where we came from. Today, Vale and Crewe don't have the money or good fortune that we have and have to manage with what they've got to merely survive. Pope was from all accounts on a contract at Vale that consumed a very large percentage of their wage bill and it was unsustainable. I think Vale's chairman/owner has made mistakes along the steep learning curve that he has had to take but what people shouldn't lose sight of is the fact that he saved their club from extinction and that he has far better financial acumen than 99.5% of supporters of football clubs. Basically, Pope, on the wages he was on, was a luxury they just could not afford and the Smurf should be applauded for doing his best to ensure the Vale can continue to survive in a very difficult environment. There but for the Grace, etc., etc. Vale are not our rivals, they are just another team representing our great city. We should be looking to help them by loaning out our up and coming players, with massive mutual benefits. If the roles were reversed do you think they would have any sympathy for us ? They'd all be laughing their tits off. I know we haven't played them since 2002 but I'd still class them as rivals and my hatred for them is still here. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 10, 2015 13:08:53 GMT
Vale fan at work's reaction "That's it we're relegated! Bury? who the fuck are Bury? the only thing worse he could've done was join the shit up the road!!".. I'm assuming he meant us and yes, I did laugh  |
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 10, 2015 13:14:11 GMT
I think there is a lot of arrogance and one upmanship on this board regarding our current position. Obviously people with short memories or too young to remember where we came from. Today, Vale and Crewe don't have the money or good fortune that we have and have to manage with what they've got to merely survive. Pope was from all accounts on a contract at Vale that consumed a very large percentage of their wage bill and it was unsustainable. I think Vale's chairman/owner has made mistakes along the steep learning curve that he has had to take but what people shouldn't lose sight of is the fact that he saved their club from extinction and that he has far better financial acumen than 99.5% of supporters of football clubs. Basically, Pope, on the wages he was on, was a luxury they just could not afford and the Smurf should be applauded for doing his best to ensure the Vale can continue to survive in a very difficult environment. There but for the Grace, etc., etc. Vale are not our rivals, they are just another team representing our great city. We should be looking to help them by loaning out our up and coming players, with massive mutual benefits. I agree with the first half of your post. It is a complete lack of class to take the piss out of clubs not competing with the likes of Bury, it wasn't so long ago that we couldn't compete on the pitch with the likes of Bury or Wrexham or Notts County or Nuneaton and Telford for that matter. It could happen again. However I have no sympathy for the Vale and don't see why we should help them. The truth of the matter is that if Port Vale ceased to exist our club would become stronger still. We could then think about support in the mid 30k and wouldn't be plagued by thousands of people in our own city hating us and obstructing our progress. BM |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 13:16:49 GMT
I used to like going to Bury Me too I loved having a piss against the brick wall they called toilets. |
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Post by dexta on Jun 10, 2015 13:31:35 GMT
Bury market...proper old school market....best in the country
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 10, 2015 13:39:17 GMT
Bury market...proper old school market....best in the country Better than Vale market then |
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 10, 2015 13:41:59 GMT
I think there is a lot of arrogance and one upmanship on this board regarding our current position. Obviously people with short memories or too young to remember where we came from. Today, Vale and Crewe don't have the money or good fortune that we have and have to manage with what they've got to merely survive. Pope was from all accounts on a contract at Vale that consumed a very large percentage of their wage bill and it was unsustainable. I think Vale's chairman/owner has made mistakes along the steep learning curve that he has had to take but what people shouldn't lose sight of is the fact that he saved their club from extinction and that he has far better financial acumen than 99.5% of supporters of football clubs. Basically, Pope, on the wages he was on, was a luxury they just could not afford and the Smurf should be applauded for doing his best to ensure the Vale can continue to survive in a very difficult environment. There but for the Grace, etc., etc. Vale are not our rivals, they are just another team representing our great city. We should be looking to help them by loaning out our up and coming players, with massive mutual benefits. Shame is it not, poor scrounging Vale fuck em, they had enough hand outs let alone loans. |
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jun 10, 2015 13:43:58 GMT
I think there is a lot of arrogance and one upmanship on this board regarding our current position. Obviously people with short memories or too young to remember where we came from. Today, Vale and Crewe don't have the money or good fortune that we have and have to manage with what they've got to merely survive. Pope was from all accounts on a contract at Vale that consumed a very large percentage of their wage bill and it was unsustainable. I think Vale's chairman/owner has made mistakes along the steep learning curve that he has had to take but what people shouldn't lose sight of is the fact that he saved their club from extinction and that he has far better financial acumen than 99.5% of supporters of football clubs. Basically, Pope, on the wages he was on, was a luxury they just could not afford and the Smurf should be applauded for doing his best to ensure the Vale can continue to survive in a very difficult environment. There but for the Grace, etc., etc. Vale are not our rivals, they are just another team representing our great city. We should be looking to help them by loaning out our up and coming players, with massive mutual benefits. I agree with the first half of your post. It is a complete lack of class to take the piss out of clubs not competing with the likes of Bury, it wasn't so long ago that we couldn't compete on the pitch with the likes of Bury or Wrexham or Notts County or Nuneaton and Telford for that matter. It could happen again. However I have no sympathy for the Vale and don't see why we should help them. The truth of the matter is that if Port Vale ceased to exist our club would become stronger still. We could then think about support in the mid 30k and wouldn't be plagued by thousands of people in our own city hating us and obstructing our progress. BM If Vale did go bust, I don't think it would affect our support very much at all . Think if the positions of the respective clubs were reversed, would you go to the Vale if Stoke went bust? I know I most certainly wouldn't. Most football fans(other than glory hunters ,who don't count as football fans anyway) support their club passionately,Vale fans are no different to most fans of any other club. |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jun 10, 2015 13:47:01 GMT
I think there is a lot of arrogance and one upmanship on this board regarding our current position. Obviously people with short memories or too young to remember where we came from. Today, Vale and Crewe don't have the money or good fortune that we have and have to manage with what they've got to merely survive. Pope was from all accounts on a contract at Vale that consumed a very large percentage of their wage bill and it was unsustainable. I think Vale's chairman/owner has made mistakes along the steep learning curve that he has had to take but what people shouldn't lose sight of is the fact that he saved their club from extinction and that he has far better financial acumen than 99.5% of supporters of football clubs. Basically, Pope, on the wages he was on, was a luxury they just could not afford and the Smurf should be applauded for doing his best to ensure the Vale can continue to survive in a very difficult environment. There but for the Grace, etc., etc. Vale are not our rivals, they are just another team representing our great city. We should be looking to help them by loaning out our up and coming players, with massive mutual benefits. I'm one of the posters on here that has often spoken up for Port Vale against those that spout the very views you highlight. Running a club in their position is, indeed, a difficult and often thankless task and I don't envy him for one minute. That said, he has stated himself on many occasions that he is NOT a 'football man' and that becomes more and more obvious every time he makes public statements or is interviewed on the radio. IMHO, some of the comments he has made about his own fans, his own players and his own manager (Adams) are little short of pathetic. He DOES have to run the club on the available budget of course but he has drafted in large numbers of young players that neither the previous manager nor the current one has deemed good enough to play for Port Vale and yet, the three key players that Vale really needed to hang on to if they are to survive in the division they occupy, have been driven away from the club by his smug approach to contract negotiations and his belief that he knows better than the 'football men' at the club. Vale's fortunes will not be enhanced by loosing all their best players and alienating even more of their ever-dwindling support. He's doing a very good job of pissing off just about everyone he comes into contact with. Very tough job though, I agree. |
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Post by metalhead on Jun 10, 2015 13:50:19 GMT
We should have signed him. Imagine the fury in Burslem |
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jun 10, 2015 14:05:08 GMT
We should have signed him. Imagine the fury in Burslem Better still, straight swap for Palacios. |
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Post by mailman44 on Jun 11, 2015 11:02:29 GMT
I used to like going to Bury Me too I loved having a piss against the brick wall they called toilets. Wait a minute were you the old disgusting geezer who was in the bogs at Upton Park punching the president in the sink? You splashed all over Waggy's trousers and driving shoes you sick ba$tard!  |
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Post by Davef on Jun 11, 2015 11:14:44 GMT
I think there is a lot of arrogance and one upmanship on this board regarding our current position. Obviously people with short memories or too young to remember where we came from. When it comes to Port Vale, I have a long memory. |
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