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Post by interestedobserver on Jun 3, 2015 18:17:23 GMT
Yes or No?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 3, 2015 18:18:02 GMT
Jozy Altidore clearly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 18:19:12 GMT
Yes.
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Post by hartzchoco on Jun 3, 2015 18:20:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 18:20:09 GMT
vid.me/97nBNot sure if people in Britain even know who he is but he's very popular in America, a very funny relatively left-wing comedian called John Oliver. Does a good bit on FIFA, and many other things if you look at his channel.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jun 3, 2015 18:20:17 GMT
Overwhelmingly YES.
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Post by lordb on Jun 3, 2015 18:20:24 GMT
By a mile.
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Post by hartzchoco on Jun 3, 2015 18:23:35 GMT
vid.me/97nBNot sure if people in Britain even know who he is but he's very popular in America, a very funny relatively left-wing comedian called John Oliver. Does a good bit on FIFA, and many other things if you look at his channel. Love him.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 3, 2015 18:29:36 GMT
Utter bollocks. It's Freddy Adu.
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Post by foster on Jun 3, 2015 18:30:55 GMT
G CAM DA MAN!
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Post by hartzchoco on Jun 3, 2015 18:38:06 GMT
This is gonna be a fun thread.
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Post by interestedobserver on Jun 3, 2015 18:40:39 GMT
vid.me/97nBNot sure if people in Britain even know who he is but he's very popular in America, a very funny relatively left-wing comedian called John Oliver. Does a good bit on FIFA, and many other things if you look at his channel. Don't watch his clips too often but that was amazing.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 3, 2015 18:44:14 GMT
I quite like the American concept of "half time multi ball" which I understand is to become compulsory in the Soccer World Series due to start next year.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 3, 2015 19:25:21 GMT
shouldn't that be soccer?
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Post by towraytek on Jun 3, 2015 19:32:43 GMT
It probably depends on which bit of this planet you come from as a football enthusiast. If you are from a fat cat European nation or, like the USA, aspire to join the Club, you are glad to see the back of Blatter.
But if you are from an emerging African or Asian nation you owe him, because he brought you a place at the table that you wouldn't have got otherwise. Left to its own devices, European football would have taken the best of African football and given fuck all back (the current contempt for the African Nations Cup amongst Premier League fans is a prime example of the attitude).
The uncomfortable truth is that Blatter did much to promote the global game and (despite the inane 'tight shorts' comment) much also for Women's football.
That said, there is a stink of corruption about FIFA that won't go away until someone else takes charge, so I'm glad he's gone. But I would be surprised if Blatter himself will be found to have gained financially. His obstinacy has more to do with power than a love of money.
And I have no doubt that a significant amount of the FIFA money supposedly ploughed back into developing nations probably lined a few undeserving pockets. There is only so much that a boss can keep control of.
Interesting times & very difficult to see who/what can unite the footballing world.
Ek
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jun 3, 2015 19:37:40 GMT
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Post by mailman44 on Jun 3, 2015 20:28:04 GMT
Brekken Shea
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 3, 2015 20:56:54 GMT
It probably depends on which bit of this planet you come from as a football enthusiast. If you are from a fat cat European nation or, like the USA, aspire to join the Club, you are glad to see the back of Blatter. But if you are from an emerging African or Asian nation you owe him, because he brought you a place at the table that you wouldn't have got otherwise. Left to its own devices, European football would have taken the best of African football and given fuck all back (the current contempt for the African Nations Cup amongst Premier League fans is a prime example of the attitude). The uncomfortable truth is that Blatter did much to promote the global game and (despite the inane 'tight shorts' comment) much also for Women's football. That said, there is a stink of corruption about FIFA that won't go away until someone else takes charge, so I'm glad he's gone. But I would be surprised if Blatter himself will be found to have gained financially. His obstinacy has more to do with power than a love of money. And I have no doubt that a significant amount of the FIFA money supposedly ploughed back into developing nations probably lined a few undeserving pockets. There is only so much that a boss can keep control of. Interesting times & very difficult to see who/what can unite the footballing world. Ek By giving every rinky dink football federation equal voting rights to the major nations it guaranteed 2 things Blatter would never be voted out of office .secondly it guaranteed the abuse of power and corrupt practices we now see being uncovered .
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Post by Stokyo on Jun 3, 2015 23:22:27 GMT
They gave us Brek Shea
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 1:48:06 GMT
It probably depends on which bit of this planet you come from as a football enthusiast. If you are from a fat cat European nation or, like the USA, aspire to join the Club, you are glad to see the back of Blatter. But if you are from an emerging African or Asian nation you owe him, because he brought you a place at the table that you wouldn't have got otherwise. Left to its own devices, European football would have taken the best of African football and given fuck all back (the current contempt for the African Nations Cup amongst Premier League fans is a prime example of the attitude). The uncomfortable truth is that Blatter did much to promote the global game and (despite the inane 'tight shorts' comment) much also for Women's football. That said, there is a stink of corruption about FIFA that won't go away until someone else takes charge, so I'm glad he's gone. But I would be surprised if Blatter himself will be found to have gained financially. His obstinacy has more to do with power than a love of money. And I have no doubt that a significant amount of the FIFA money supposedly ploughed back into developing nations probably lined a few undeserving pockets. There is only so much that a boss can keep control of. Interesting times & very difficult to see who/what can unite the footballing world. Ek I'm not having that mate...kids have been and will always be kicking balls about made of rags, pigs bladders and using jumpers for goal posts for ever more. It's nowt to do with Blatter, a man that has lived in unbridled luxury within in a serious 5-Star hotel on the shores of Lake Geneva for the last 20 years, whilst crying "Reform, reform!". The World Cup is great, but i'd argue that Scudamore and the Premiership wee all over FIFA's chips in terms of increasing the global popularity of the professional game, week in week out. Scudamore has earned his corn, whilst Blatter has been fooling the world. Outside of the total mess he's made of France98, South Africa10, Russia18 and Qatar22 it's the perpetration of the myth "NO FIFA, NO FOOTBALL" that is perhaps Blatter's biggest faux legacy. There will always be a World Cup - with or without FIFA. Bribes and corruption aside, with 400+ staff in their Swiss HQ alone, they're still stealing a living this lot.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 4, 2015 5:32:18 GMT
It probably depends on which bit of this planet you come from as a football enthusiast. If you are from a fat cat European nation or, like the USA, aspire to join the Club, you are glad to see the back of Blatter. But if you are from an emerging African or Asian nation you owe him, because he brought you a place at the table that you wouldn't have got otherwise. Left to its own devices, European football would have taken the best of African football and given fuck all back (the current contempt for the African Nations Cup amongst Premier League fans is a prime example of the attitude). The uncomfortable truth is that Blatter did much to promote the global game and (despite the inane 'tight shorts' comment) much also for Women's football. That said, there is a stink of corruption about FIFA that won't go away until someone else takes charge, so I'm glad he's gone. But I would be surprised if Blatter himself will be found to have gained financially. His obstinacy has more to do with power than a love of money. And I have no doubt that a significant amount of the FIFA money supposedly ploughed back into developing nations probably lined a few undeserving pockets. There is only so much that a boss can keep control of. Interesting times & very difficult to see who/what can unite the footballing world. Ek I'm not having that mate...kids have been and will always be kicking balls about made of rags, pigs bladders and using jumpers for goal posts for ever more. It's nowt to do with Blatter, a man that has lived in unbridled luxury within in a serious 5-Star hotel on the shores of Lake Geneva for the last 20 years, whilst crying "Reform, reform!". The World Cup is great, but i'd argue that Scudamore and the Premiership wee all over FIFA's chips in terms of increasing the global popularity of the professional game, week in week out. Scudamore has earned his corn, whilst Blatter has been fooling the world. Outside of the total mess he's made of France98, South Africa10, Russia18 and Qatar22 it's the perpetration of the myth "NO FIFA, NO FOOTBALL" that is perhaps Blatter's biggest faux legacy. There will always be a World Cup - with or without FIFA. Bribes and corruption aside, with 400+ staff in their Swiss HQ alone, they're still stealing a living this lot. This argument that Blatter did loads for the developing world therefore he is actually an ok guy seems to ignore the possibility that whoever was in charge of FIFA would have done similar things. Only with less corruption and arguably with greater effect. In other words it's a bollocks argument.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 5:56:19 GMT
I'm only guessing but i've got a strong feeling that people will be truly horrified at the full extent of corruption when the fog lifts to finally reveal the full extent of the wrongdoing under Blatter's stewardship of FIFA.
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Post by interestedobserver on Jun 4, 2015 12:48:25 GMT
There may have been some good that came out of this 'growing the game' stuff from FIFA. But at its core, I think it has been little more than intellectual cover for corrupt activities. What other possible explanation could FIFA give for Q22 other than 'growing the game'?
Remember the rotation system? Funny that FIFA pulled the plug on the rotation system when it came time to host a WC in the CONCACAF region -- the one non-European region where they were unlikely to secure many bribes. As corrupt as CONCACAF is/was itself, there are only two countries in this region that could possibly host a World Cup and at least one of them was unlikely to produce many bribes to get it.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 4, 2015 13:13:28 GMT
It is quite funny who the Americans chase after to put in jail. I dont think they particularly have a problem with corruption, just the fact that they cant get a slice of this particular pie.
They didnt put so much effort into arresting any of the bankers that caused the global financial meltdown and the loss of 1 trillion dollars from taxpayers bailouts.
Im glad they did it but if you start to ask WHY they did it, it aint for the global benefit of the supporters of the beautiful game. Its because they want a share of the profits END OF
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Post by roostershair on Jun 4, 2015 13:57:15 GMT
Norman Smurthwaite should throw his hat in the ring
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