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Post by agingerstokie on May 11, 2015 8:05:13 GMT
It would be extremely harsh to drop him after Saturday, but this whole "my head isn't right to sit on the bench" from Begovic must be incredibly frustrating for Hughes. I personally think Butland should play both Burnley and Liverpool, he deserves the chance to prove himself.
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Post by mrcholmondleywarner on May 11, 2015 8:13:59 GMT
Of course we should be playing Butland. He's got the Euro's coming up.
I also think Shenton ought to get a run out once we are in a position to cement our top 10 finish - Chelski gave one of their players a start yesterday.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on May 11, 2015 8:15:38 GMT
I'll be hoping to see Butland vs Burnley and Sorensen vs Liverpool as he retires after that match and it would be nice to give him the send off he deserves after his 8 years with us.
Oh Tommy Tommy...
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Post by wrighter on May 11, 2015 8:23:17 GMT
Yep, play Tommy v Liverpool, even its the last 10 mins Deserves a good send off, excellent keeper , saved us on many occasions, and never complained or threw his toys out of the pram when dropped
Thankx Tommy
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 11, 2015 8:28:55 GMT
Yep, play Tommy v Liverpool, even its the last 10 mins Deserves a good send off, excellent keeper , saved us on many occasions, and never complained or threw his toys out of the pram when dropped Thankx Tommy Yes strangely enough his 'head' was always ok to sit on the bench.
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Post by jeycov on May 11, 2015 8:34:27 GMT
if Bego has had a minor procedure - some suggestions that it's to his knee - then it is another reason / excuse / get out clause - to select Butland
If he's off to Liverpool, even more reasons NOT to play him in our last game imo
It's so sad that Bego has got himself into this situation
I believe that most staff and the majority of fans (and Asmir ) expected Bego to leave at the end of last season.
He has been a great goalkeeper for us, turned down the opportunity to go to a "bigger club' when he left Portsmouth
I don't think we should underestimate his disappointment at missing out on our FA Cup run, he is ambitious, would like the opportunity to win trophies and if the same principle is followed he won't get that here at Stoke
We still don't know exactly what is going on behind the scenes
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Post by agingerstokie on May 11, 2015 8:40:52 GMT
At the end of the day if Begovic started the cup games as well as premier league Jack would never get a chance and that's unfair on him.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 11, 2015 8:51:20 GMT
if Bego has had a minor procedure - some suggestions that it's to his knee - then it is another reason / excuse / get out clause - to select Butland If he's off to Liverpool, even more reasons NOT to play him in our last game imo It's so sad that Bego has got himself into this situation I believe that most staff and the majority of fans (and Asmir ) expected Bego to leave at the end of last season. He has been a great goalkeeper for us, turned down the opportunity to go to a "bigger club' when he left Portsmouth I don't think we should underestimate his disappointment at missing out on our FA Cup run, he is ambitious, would like the opportunity to win trophies and if the same principle is followed he won't get that here at Stoke We still don't know exactly what is going on behind the scenes If he's had a minor op then why wouldn't we/he say so? Why all the cloak and dagger 'head not right' bollocks. It just makes Bego look like a prize weapon. All the stories of taxis from Swansea and 'head not right' make him look like a flouncy fanny in the Tuncay mould. IF he's going then why can't they all just be straight? Say it how it is. I don't think many on here would begrudge him the opportunity to play at a higher level. In fact I think most have reluctantly accepted its inevitability. I will always be grateful to Bego for his contribution to our cause and as the second best goalkeeper I've seen in a Stoke shirt but all this pissing about behind the scenes is seriously diminishing my respect for him as a bloke. He might be entirely innocent and it might be his agent (although he's got form for it). It might be the club, it's not unknown for SCFC to thoroughly fuck up their PR. I accept the negotiations with the club he's joining might be at a delicate stage but for crying out loud stop with all the James Bond shit because we end up looking like Mr Bean.
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Post by agingerstokie on May 11, 2015 8:54:08 GMT
if Bego has had a minor procedure - some suggestions that it's to his knee - then it is another reason / excuse / get out clause - to select Butland If he's off to Liverpool, even more reasons NOT to play him in our last game imo It's so sad that Bego has got himself into this situation I believe that most staff and the majority of fans (and Asmir ) expected Bego to leave at the end of last season. He has been a great goalkeeper for us, turned down the opportunity to go to a "bigger club' when he left Portsmouth I don't think we should underestimate his disappointment at missing out on our FA Cup run, he is ambitious, would like the opportunity to win trophies and if the same principle is followed he won't get that here at Stoke We still don't know exactly what is going on behind the scenes If he's had a minor op then why wouldn't we/he say so? Why all the cloak and dagger 'head not right' bollocks. It just makes Bego look like a prize weapon. All the stories of taxis from Swansea and 'head not right' make him look like a flouncy fanny in the Tuncay mould. IF he's going then why can't they all just be straight? Say it how it is. I don't think many on here would begrudge him the opportunity to play at a higher level. In fact I think most have reluctantly accepted its inevitability. I will always be grateful to Bego for his contribution to our cause and as the second best goalkeeper I've seen in a Stoke shirt but all this pissing about behind the scenes is seriously diminishing my respect for him as a bloke. He might be entirely innocent and it might be his agent (although he's got form for it). It might be the club, it's not unknown for SCFC to thoroughly fuck up their PR. I accept the negotiations with the club he's joining might be at a delicate stage but for crying out loud stop with all the James Bond shit because we end up looking like Mr Bean. For me, Hughes doesn't strike me as a man that beats around the bush I think it would be hard for him to spin a lie or cover up regarding one of his players from his general demeanor the past two years. There's definitely something that happened between Begovic and Hughes regarding Swansea.
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Post by nutterpotter on May 11, 2015 8:59:08 GMT
if Bego has had a minor procedure - some suggestions that it's to his knee - then it is another reason / excuse / get out clause - to select Butland If he's off to Liverpool, even more reasons NOT to play him in our last game imo It's so sad that Bego has got himself into this situation I believe that most staff and the majority of fans (and Asmir ) expected Bego to leave at the end of last season. He has been a great goalkeeper for us, turned down the opportunity to go to a "bigger club' when he left Portsmouth I don't think we should underestimate his disappointment at missing out on our FA Cup run, he is ambitious, would like the opportunity to win trophies and if the same principle is followed he won't get that here at Stoke We still don't know exactly what is going on behind the scenes If he's had a minor op then why wouldn't we/he say so?Why all the cloak and dagger 'head not right' bollocks. It just makes Bego look like a prize weapon. All the stories of taxis from Swansea and 'head not right' make him look like a flouncy fanny in the Tuncay mould. IF he's going then why can't they all just be straight? Say it how it is. I don't think many on here would begrudge him the opportunity to play at a higher level. In fact I think most have reluctantly accepted its inevitability. I will always be grateful to Bego for his contribution to our cause and as the second best goalkeeper I've seen in a Stoke shirt but all this pissing about behind the scenes is seriously diminishing my respect for him as a bloke. He might be entirely innocent and it might be his agent (although he's got form for it). It might be the club, it's not unknown for SCFC to thoroughly fuck up their PR. I accept the negotiations with the club he's joining might be at a delicate stage but for crying out loud stop with all the James Bond shit because we end up looking like Mr Bean. Hughes did say he had a minor op. But the reason for that was Asmir knew he wasn't going to play against Spurs so took the opportunity to fix his knee rather than doing it at the end of the season. Hughes did say Bego would be fit and back in contention for the Burnley game. Hughes said we had always wanted Butland to get a home game and an away game before the end of the season (and Bego knew that) yet was still pissed off when he was dropped against Swansea and refused to sit on the bench.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on May 11, 2015 9:19:06 GMT
He has to, be really harsh to drop him after a good performance and a clean sheet Saturday
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Post by nutterpotter on May 11, 2015 9:19:59 GMT
If he doest start, will be very interesting to see if Asmir is on the bench or not.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 11, 2015 9:26:00 GMT
If he's had a minor op then why wouldn't we/he say so?Why all the cloak and dagger 'head not right' bollocks. It just makes Bego look like a prize weapon. All the stories of taxis from Swansea and 'head not right' make him look like a flouncy fanny in the Tuncay mould. IF he's going then why can't they all just be straight? Say it how it is. I don't think many on here would begrudge him the opportunity to play at a higher level. In fact I think most have reluctantly accepted its inevitability. I will always be grateful to Bego for his contribution to our cause and as the second best goalkeeper I've seen in a Stoke shirt but all this pissing about behind the scenes is seriously diminishing my respect for him as a bloke. He might be entirely innocent and it might be his agent (although he's got form for it). It might be the club, it's not unknown for SCFC to thoroughly fuck up their PR. I accept the negotiations with the club he's joining might be at a delicate stage but for crying out loud stop with all the James Bond shit because we end up looking like Mr Bean. Hughes did say he had a minor op. But the reason for that was Asmir knew he wasn't going to play against Spurs so took the opportunity to fix his knee rather than doing it at the end of the season. Hughes did say Bego would be fit and back in contention for the Burnley game. Hughes said we had always wanted Butland to get a home game and an away game before the end of the season (and Bego knew that) yet was still pissed off when he was dropped against Swansea and refused to sit on the bench. Ok ta. Must have missed that. Be interesting to see what happens Saturday ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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