|
Post by minty1964 on May 7, 2015 23:01:48 GMT
the player for me.... pay £15 mill and £70k per week (raising the bar) .... well within our budget and not breaking the dressing room pay-scale, then follow up with Moses, a right back and centre half and pay Bego what he wants and lets be done in June instead of Aug / Sept.... then get a sneaky striker last minute (Deeney / Austin / etc).. get rid of 8 squad players who never play... books balanced... kerrrching and 8th with a league / fa cup win :-)
|
|
|
Post by Olgrligm on May 7, 2015 23:21:12 GMT
He's rubbish. He can finish inventively and contributes nothing else. Send him back to the 80s to goal hang with Gary Lineker.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 23:23:46 GMT
He's rubbish. He can finish inventively and contributes nothing else. Send him back to the 80s to goal hang with Gary Lineker. Not sure I'd agree with that he has a lot of pace and is surprisingly good in the air too. I don't think we could land him but he'd be amazing
|
|
|
Post by Gods on May 7, 2015 23:59:33 GMT
He's rubbish. He can finish inventively and contributes nothing else. Send him back to the 80s to goal hang with Gary Lineker. yeah, who would have wanted that Gary Lineker, bloody goal hanger ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
|
|
|
Post by minty1964 on May 8, 2015 0:00:20 GMT
"He's Rubbish" ???
owrate sir, appreciate your opinion... that's what makes football such an opinionated sport :-)
|
|
|
Post by boskampsflaps on May 8, 2015 0:16:40 GMT
You should cut down on the amount you play football manager, its distorting your view of reality.
|
|
|
Post by minty1964 on May 8, 2015 0:24:32 GMT
boskamp, who is that aimed at..... not played it since 08/09... just thought he might be a lad who takes us up a level, can score 20 a season and isn't going to rob us blind....
we may have options i haven't thought of... but hopefully sparky has
|
|
|
Post by boskampsflaps on May 8, 2015 0:38:37 GMT
boskamp, who is that aimed at..... not played it since 08/09... just thought he might be a lad who takes us up a level, can score 20 a season and isn't going to rob us blind.... we may have options i haven't thought of... but hopefully sparky has You ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) , sorry should have quoted, we ain't spending 15mil on anyone and then another 8ish for Moses and maybe double figure millions for sneaky striker, unfortunately those days are long gone. Also who are these 8 squad players we can get rid of and not have a paper thin squad.
|
|
|
Post by PotterLog on May 8, 2015 0:41:01 GMT
Even if he were in our league, which I doubt he is, how on earth would he fit into our team? In fact where does he fit in any vaguely modern system? There's a reason he's spent most of his career on the bench.
|
|
|
Post by minty1964 on May 8, 2015 1:06:19 GMT
we lost bojan = slump
have hernandez - 15 goals deffo .. only a suggestion of course.... and that would only be 5 more than crouchy, walters, diouff scored this season but would add youth n pace... only an opinion of course, there are others but if he was good enough for real madrid & man utd, he's surely got to be ok for us
|
|
|
Post by ayem on May 8, 2015 1:31:29 GMT
Even if he were in our league, which I doubt he is, how on earth would he fit into our team? In fact where does he fit in any vaguely modern system? There's a reason he's spent most of his career on the bench. A player who can poach goals, get on the end of crosses, and create play from inventive passing? Have you watched Diouf play? Have you spent time time comparing his play to Chicharito? Vaguely modern system? How many teams are set in a 4231 again?
|
|
|
Post by djduncanjames on May 8, 2015 1:41:15 GMT
What about Defoe if Sunderland go down? Did LMH not table a bid before Toronto FC paid the big bucks?
Saying that I think Javier would be immense at Stoke. He scored on his debut with a header against the best defensive unit in England at the time. Us!
|
|
|
Post by PotterLog on May 8, 2015 1:43:43 GMT
Even if he were in our league, which I doubt he is, how on earth would he fit into our team? In fact where does he fit in any vaguely modern system? There's a reason he's spent most of his career on the bench. A player who can poach goals, get on the end of crosses, and create play from inventive passing? Have you watched Diouf play? Have you spent time time comparing his play to Chicharito? Vaguely modern system? How many teams are set in a 4231 again? Exactly. The problem is the 1. I've spent plenty time watching Diouf - are you seriously implying he's a similar player to Javier Hernandez?
|
|
|
Post by minty1964 on May 8, 2015 2:21:34 GMT
ayem ahmen
|
|
|
Post by stokemanusa on May 8, 2015 2:58:01 GMT
The king of poaching. Doesn't stop until the whistle. A player who goes for everything. A rarity in these times. Has a decent foot, goes for headers and helps on defence. Wouldn't mind him here to be honest. He's got Stoke attributes at heart.
|
|
|
Post by djduncanjames on May 8, 2015 3:12:48 GMT
The king of poaching. Doesn't stop until the whistle. A player who goes for everything. A rarity in these times. Has a decent foot, goes for headers and helps on defence. Wouldn't mind him here to be honest. He's got Stoke attributes at heart. I agree mate, entirely in fact. To read that he cries because he isn't in the team at Madrid shows me he wants to play football first. He is no mercenary like Ba and that ilk. Bring him to Stoke he will be a legend, balls on the line but IMO and Pejic's - that's our target.
|
|
|
Post by stokemanusa on May 8, 2015 3:14:45 GMT
The king of poaching. Doesn't stop until the whistle. A player who goes for everything. A rarity in these times. Has a decent foot, goes for headers and helps on defence. Wouldn't mind him here to be honest. He's got Stoke attributes at heart. I agree mate, entirely in fact. To read that he cries because he isn't in the team at Madrid shows me he wants to play football first. He is no mercenary like Ba and that ilk. Bring him to Stoke he will be a legend, balls on the line but IMO and Pejic's - that's our target. Spot on. Think he'd be a great signing for us. Unique player and has passion.
|
|
|
Post by PotterLog on May 8, 2015 3:29:30 GMT
The king of poaching. Doesn't stop until the whistle. A player who goes for everything. A rarity in these times. Has a decent foot, goes for headers and helps on defence. Wouldn't mind him here to be honest. He's got Stoke attributes at heart. I agree mate, entirely in fact. To read that he cries because he isn't in the team at Madrid shows me he wants to play football first. He is no mercenary like Ba and that ilk. Bring him to Stoke he will be a legend, balls on the line but IMO and Pejic's - that's our target. Unfortunately "wanting to play football first" is not enough to be a legend in the Premier League. He's a really good player who has attributes that, unfortunately for him, just don't really fit into a top-level team nowadays. If he were available to us at a good price on regular wages he'd be a fantastic option to have on the bench. As a starter, it's a... non-starter.
|
|
|
Post by djduncanjames on May 8, 2015 4:26:43 GMT
I agree mate, entirely in fact. To read that he cries because he isn't in the team at Madrid shows me he wants to play football first. He is no mercenary like Ba and that ilk. Bring him to Stoke he will be a legend, balls on the line but IMO and Pejic's - that's our target. Unfortunately "wanting to play football first" is not enough to be a legend in the Premier League. He's a really good player who has attributes that, unfortunately for him, just don't really fit into a top-level team nowadays. If he were available to us at a good price on regular wages he'd be a fantastic option to have on the bench. As a starter, it's a... non-starter. Maybe you are right, maybe not. Real Madrid and Manchester United took a punt on him so why cant we? I cant see him harming our endeavours going forward?
|
|
|
Post by foster on May 8, 2015 5:47:05 GMT
He's been a part time player for years and wouldn't come here anyway.
|
|
|
Post by chiefdelilah on May 8, 2015 6:51:38 GMT
He's rubbish. He can finish inventively and contributes nothing else. Send him back to the 80s to goal hang with Gary Lineker. yeah, who would have wanted that Gary Lineker, bloody goal hanger ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) In 1989 everybody. In 2015 nobody any good.
|
|
|
Post by chiefdelilah on May 8, 2015 6:53:46 GMT
Unfortunately "wanting to play football first" is not enough to be a legend in the Premier League. He's a really good player who has attributes that, unfortunately for him, just don't really fit into a top-level team nowadays. If he were available to us at a good price on regular wages he'd be a fantastic option to have on the bench. As a starter, it's a... non-starter. Maybe you are right, maybe not. Real Madrid and Manchester United took a punt on him so why cant we? I cant see him harming our endeavours going forward? Because neither he nor Defoe are equipped to play as a lone striker which is what we play with.
|
|
|
Post by stokiejoe on May 8, 2015 7:10:21 GMT
Would take him without a second thought.
|
|
|
Post by GeneralFaye on May 8, 2015 7:14:13 GMT
If he "wanted to play football" he wouldn't have signed for Real Madrid, simple.
|
|
|
Post by foster on May 8, 2015 7:37:45 GMT
Would take him from behind without a second thought. Steady on mate. As said, he wouldn't come here.... not before he's 36 anyway.
|
|
|
Post by lordb on May 8, 2015 7:43:25 GMT
Even if he were in our league, which I doubt he is, how on earth would he fit into our team? In fact where does he fit in any vaguely modern system? There's a reason he's spent most of his career on the bench. He would play upfront as the main striker The idea that you HAVE to have a target man isn't correct in my view - you do HAVE to have good movement & someone who could finish He ticks both those boxes for sure & I think he woudl feed off Bojan fantasticaly To be fair I don't beleive their is one system,one best XI that fits every game we play (especially in the final third). Ideally we have a consistent back 4 but upfront I think we should play what suits depedning on the game,form & so on.
|
|
|
Post by chiefdelilah on May 8, 2015 8:13:41 GMT
Even if he were in our league, which I doubt he is, how on earth would he fit into our team? In fact where does he fit in any vaguely modern system? There's a reason he's spent most of his career on the bench. He would play upfront as the main striker The idea that you HAVE to have a target man isn't correct in my view - you do HAVE to have good movement & someone who could finish He ticks both those boxes for sure & I think he woudl feed off Bojan fantasticaly To be fair I don't beleive their is one system,one best XI that fits every game we play (especially in the final third). Ideally we have a consistent back 4 but upfront I think we should play what suits depedning on the game,form & so on. You have to have more to your game than poaching. You either have to be good in the air and able to hold the ball up, or you have to be able to drop off and link the play that way like Rooney or Kane. Beyond Rooney, who under six foot has been a consistent success in that role in the Prem?
|
|
|
Post by mosquito on May 8, 2015 8:22:10 GMT
Kevin Phillips didn't do to bad!
|
|
|
Post by mosquito on May 8, 2015 8:26:51 GMT
Ian Wright
|
|
|
Post by chiefdelilah on May 8, 2015 8:47:47 GMT
Kevin Phillips didn't do to bad! He wasn't a lone striker was he? Success came as part of a two.
|
|