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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 19:16:35 GMT
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Post by werrington on May 5, 2015 19:16:35 GMT
I don't think a top striker necessarily would cost £20m. Benteke didn't. Bony didn't. Exactly mate Perhaps we should go for a Soldado type
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 5, 2015 19:19:21 GMT
I don't think a top striker necessarily would cost £20m. Benteke didn't. Bony didn't. Exactly mate Perhaps we should go for a Soldado type I think they're definitely out there if we can find them mate. All gambles but plenty of them pay off.
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Post by lordb on May 5, 2015 19:30:09 GMT
We're all armchair experts mate I think if we are realistic in terms of what we might spend on a striker it narrows it down a bit which is why I think we'll go abroad again. I can't see us going above £10 million and I reckon that would mean someone like Charlie Austin would be out of our range (not to mention his likely inflated QPR salary). Do we take a punt on someone like Gestede at Blackburn? What would he cost? As I've said, Castaignos does it for me in terms of the criteria I have in mind but what do I know?! I'd take Jordan Rhodes in a flash mate On here though they'd say he's championship at best whilst they'd gladly see us pay £10m for a player from some random European club whose league is not as strong as the championship Clueless That's silly. German league is not quite as good as the Premiership but it's light years ahead of the Championship. Wolfsburg are a very good club with really good players. Random clubs don't spend £20m+ (on Schurle). Dost would be cheaper,at the touted £8m than Gestede or Rhodes too. Austin is a good comparison. Suspect Austin would command higher wages than Dost.
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 19:32:47 GMT
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Post by werrington on May 5, 2015 19:32:47 GMT
I'd take Jordan Rhodes in a flash mate On here though they'd say he's championship at best whilst they'd gladly see us pay £10m for a player from some random European club whose league is not as strong as the championship Clueless That's silly. German league is not quite as good as the Premiership but it's light years ahead of the Championship. Wolfsburg are a very good club with really good players. Random clubs don't spend £20m+ (on Schurle). Dost would be cheaper,at the touted £8m than Gestede or Rhodes too. Austin is a good comparison. Suspect Austin would command higher wages than Dost. Eh ?.....I think you need to read my posts again mate
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Post by lordb on May 5, 2015 19:34:54 GMT
I've read it again. You appear to suggest that the Championship is better than the German League and that Wolfsburg are a random club.
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Post by StokieNath on May 5, 2015 19:36:34 GMT
Why dont we just give Diouf another season to prove himself. 9 goals isint bad is it?
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Post by lastoftheldk on May 5, 2015 19:37:20 GMT
Football does not work around a striker who has an incredibly limited game, no? He creates nothing himself, he has a bit of a shit touch, no pace and offers nothing all game. In another team he would be worthless. I watched a video of him the other day, and literally every goal he scored was exactly the same. Winger passes it across the goal and Dost taps it in. Get the winger as well
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 19:39:25 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 19:39:25 GMT
I'd love Soldado here... Just saying.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 5, 2015 19:41:41 GMT
I like Soldado but he's not a lone striker, again IMO.
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 19:44:55 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 19:44:55 GMT
I like Soldado but he's not a lone striker, again IMO. He did play at the tip of a 4231 system for Valencia though and look how he did, if you create he will score.
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 5, 2015 19:46:10 GMT
We're all armchair experts mate I think if we are realistic in terms of what we might spend on a striker it narrows it down a bit which is why I think we'll go abroad again. I can't see us going above £10 million and I reckon that would mean someone like Charlie Austin would be out of our range (not to mention his likely inflated QPR salary). Do we take a punt on someone like Gestede at Blackburn? What would he cost? As I've said, Castaignos does it for me in terms of the criteria I have in mind but what do I know?! I'd take Jordan Rhodes in a flash mate On here though they'd say he's championship at best whilst they'd gladly see us pay £10m for a player from some random European club whose league is not as strong as the championship Clueless Granted, Rhodes is a consistent scorer in the Championship, it's just that his lack of pace wouldn't see him act as the nippy frontline striker we need in my opinion. Austin cost £5 million from Burnley but QPR took a risk at the time. It paid off. He's not the quickest either, but has a greater physical presence than Rhodes. So, what am I trying to say? No bloody idea……….
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Post by werrington on May 5, 2015 19:49:15 GMT
I've read it again. You appear to suggest that the Championship is better than the German League and that Wolfsburg are a random club. No..I was referring generally to how people react on here if we go for a player from the championship whilst they'd gladly see us sign a player from a random European league ...Nothing to do with Bas Dost and certainly nothing to do with Wolfsburg or the bundesliga I was making a point that players get written off on here before we have even signed them
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 5, 2015 19:56:35 GMT
I like Soldado but he's not a lone striker, again IMO. He did play at the tip of a 4231 system for Valencia though and look how he did, if you create he will score. A lone striker in Spain and a lone striker in England are not the same creature though.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 19:57:53 GMT
People on here are having a go at me for not rating him, my friend is a Wolfsburg fan and I watch most their games I should clarify that. He was on a purple patch because of how many opportunities were being presented to him by De Bruyne and co. genuinely isn't that good a player and he would be a flop somewhere else
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 19:59:09 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 19:59:09 GMT
He did play at the tip of a 4231 system for Valencia though and look how he did, if you create he will score. A lone striker in Spain and a lone striker in England are not the same creature though. No but still I think it's a little harsh when he virtually gets very little service.
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 20:00:11 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 20:00:11 GMT
People on here are having a go at me for not rating him, my friend is a Wolfsburg fan and I watch most their games I should clarify that. He was on a purple patch because of how many opportunities were being presented to him by De Bruyne and co. genuinely isn't that good a player and he would be a flop somewhere else He does score a lot but I've seen him waste chance after chance as well, very much relies on others creating and we don't have two wingers than can create.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 20:02:25 GMT
A lone striker in Spain and a lone striker in England are not the same creature though. No but still I think it's a little harsh when he virtually gets very little service. He gets little service in a side with Eriksen, Lamela, Dembele, Chadli etc etc? What kind of service do you think he'd get here? I bet you a dime to a dollar it wouldn't be better service. We need a Benteke type who is a monster that can score. We have to be clever with our dealings and be prepared to take a risk on a player with, maybe, a slightly dodgy scoring record and work really hard on him IMO.
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Post by nutterpotter on May 5, 2015 20:04:20 GMT
No but still I think it's a little harsh when he virtually gets very little service. He gets little service in a side with Eriksen, Lamela, Dembele, Chadli etc etc? What kind of service do you think he'd get here? I bet you a dime to a dollar it wouldn't be better service. We need a Benteke type who is a monster that can score. We have to be clever with our dealings and be prepared to take a risk on a player with, maybe, a slightly dodgy scoring record and work really hard on him IMO. Going to be tough to find someone that has those attributes and isn't being tracked by the big clubs. Swansea and Villa have shown it can be done though.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 20:06:01 GMT
People on here are having a go at me for not rating him, my friend is a Wolfsburg fan and I watch most their games I should clarify that. He was on a purple patch because of how many opportunities were being presented to him by De Bruyne and co. genuinely isn't that good a player and he would be a flop somewhere else He does score a lot but I've seen him waste chance after chance as well, very much relies on others creating and we don't have two wingers than can create. Exactly i think so many on here are judging on his stats not his performances, ask any Wolfsburg fan they wouldn't bat an eyelid at losing him. Literally even I could score in that team the way their wingers were playing
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 20:07:44 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 20:07:44 GMT
No but still I think it's a little harsh when he virtually gets very little service. He gets little service in a side with Eriksen, Lamela, Dembele, Chadli etc etc? What kind of service do you think he'd get here? I bet you a dime to a dollar it wouldn't be better service. We need a Benteke type who is a monster that can score. We have to be clever with our dealings and be prepared to take a risk on a player with, maybe, a slightly dodgy scoring record and work really hard on him IMO. Have you seen how greedy that Spurs midfield are?? Im talking about last season, this season Kane has been on fire. It's alright saying he should do better but most Spurs fans would agree he hasn't had the greatest service, I agree with what you say we need though. Let me ask you though, with Diouf here, Crouch signing a new extension and both Walters and Odemeingie likely to sign extensions do you see another striker coming in? I don't.
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 20:08:23 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 20:08:23 GMT
He does score a lot but I've seen him waste chance after chance as well, very much relies on others creating and we don't have two wingers than can create. Exactly i think so many on here are judging on his stats not his performances, ask any Wolfsburg fan they wouldn't bat an eyelid at losing him. Literally even I could score in that team the way their wingers were playing Agree mate id like Perisic here!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 20:09:22 GMT
He gets little service in a side with Eriksen, Lamela, Dembele, Chadli etc etc? What kind of service do you think he'd get here? I bet you a dime to a dollar it wouldn't be better service. We need a Benteke type who is a monster that can score. We have to be clever with our dealings and be prepared to take a risk on a player with, maybe, a slightly dodgy scoring record and work really hard on him IMO. Going to be tough to find someone that has those attributes and isn't being tracked by the big clubs. Swansea and Villa have shown it can be done though. Yeah, that's why I said we need to take a risk and give a bit on something. We aren't going to get the full package and I reckon we'd be better off taking someone with the physical attributes with technical attributes that can be polished by a manager that was one of the best in the business. We've been linked with one in Okaka. Another one worth looking at is Diabate at Bordeaux, although age isn't really on his side.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 20:09:59 GMT
Exactly i think so many on here are judging on his stats not his performances, ask any Wolfsburg fan they wouldn't bat an eyelid at losing him. Literally even I could score in that team the way their wingers were playing Agree mate id like Perisic here! Him and Arnie on each wing, with them both on form the crossing would be disgusting
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 20:10:45 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 20:10:45 GMT
Agree mate id like Perisic here! Him and Arnie on each wing, with them both on form the crossing would be disgusting Absolutely mate, he's a cracking player, goals in him too.
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Post by nutterpotter on May 5, 2015 20:15:48 GMT
Going to be tough to find someone that has those attributes and isn't being tracked by the big clubs. Swansea and Villa have shown it can be done though. Yeah, that's why I said we need to take a risk and give a bit on something. We aren't going to get the full package and I reckon we'd be better off taking someone with the physical attributes with technical attributes that can be polished by a manager that was one of the best in the business. We've been linked with one in Okaka. Another one worth looking at is Diabate at Bordeaux, although age isn't really on his side. To be honest, think we've already got our man in Diouf. I'm sure Hughes knows we aren't using him right and he will rightly address that in the summer.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 5, 2015 20:19:28 GMT
He gets little service in a side with Eriksen, Lamela, Dembele, Chadli etc etc? What kind of service do you think he'd get here? I bet you a dime to a dollar it wouldn't be better service. We need a Benteke type who is a monster that can score. We have to be clever with our dealings and be prepared to take a risk on a player with, maybe, a slightly dodgy scoring record and work really hard on him IMO. Have you seen how greedy that Spurs midfield are?? Im talking about last season, this season Kane has been on fire. It's alright saying he should do better but most Spurs fans would agree he hasn't had the greatest service, I agree with what you say we need though. Let me ask you though, with Diouf here, Crouch signing a new extension and both Walters and Odemeingie likely to sign extensions do you see another striker coming in? I don't. Does the fact that Kane's been on fire not undermine that argument a bit though?
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Post by jezzascfc on May 5, 2015 20:41:21 GMT
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 20:42:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 20:42:49 GMT
You can land the mythical creature of a goal scorer without breaking the bank. It's always a gamble though and the "misses" will always heavily outweigh the hits.
The Benteke's and Bony's of this world are greatly outnumbered by the Osvaldo's, De Jong's, Ideye's, Riviere's, Abel Hernandez's etc etc.
That's the job Les is tasked with though. If he's back in the market again in the Summer you'd imagine that'll be the end of Diouf.
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Bas Dost
May 5, 2015 20:43:21 GMT
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Post by StokieAsh13 on May 5, 2015 20:43:21 GMT
Have you seen how greedy that Spurs midfield are?? Im talking about last season, this season Kane has been on fire. It's alright saying he should do better but most Spurs fans would agree he hasn't had the greatest service, I agree with what you say we need though. Let me ask you though, with Diouf here, Crouch signing a new extension and both Walters and Odemeingie likely to sign extensions do you see another striker coming in? I don't. Does the fact that Kane's been on fire not undermine that argument a bit though? Maybe, but Spurs under AVB are a lot different to what they are under Pochettino. I'm not saying Soldado shouldn't of done any better though.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 5, 2015 20:48:13 GMT
Does the fact that Kane's been on fire not undermine that argument a bit though? Maybe, but Spurs under AVB are a lot different to what they are under Pochettino. I'm not saying Soldado shouldn't of done any better though. I like Soldado, and he's a trier and a good footballer, but I just don't think he's suited to how Spurs play him. Possibly not brilliantly suited to English football generally.
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