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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 2, 2015 8:34:47 GMT
'Do you mind blowing in to this, sir?' 'Do you mind shoving it up your fucking arse?' 'Do you mind not getting into the ground then sir?'
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Post by Bera’s Beano on May 2, 2015 8:51:04 GMT
I don't agree with it but it's funny that it would be expected that people would decide not to go anymore. After all going to watch your team isn't supposed to be about the booze up. Even if it does help ease through the shitter performances lol. It might be that way to you but for many of us the game is just part of the match day 'experience' For many of us meeting up a couple of hours before the game having quite a few beers chatting then meeting up after to have more beers is the whole day out. Using the alleged benchmark or four pints I'd never get into a football game again. GD I get what you mean GD, I don't generally do that as Stoke is more of a family thing as I go with several of my family to each game so I don't tend to drink. But like I said I still don't agree with it as you can easily have plenty to drink and not end up acting like a total tosser. This measure seems completely pointless as loads and loads of fans go into football matches every week absolutely leathered and the amount of trouble that happens is minimal (and most of the time that trouble is associated with people just being idiots and not necessarily drinking).
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 2, 2015 8:54:27 GMT
It might be that way to you but for many of us the game is just part of the match day 'experience' For many of us meeting up a couple of hours before the game having quite a few beers chatting then meeting up after to have more beers is the whole day out. Using the alleged benchmark or four pints I'd never get into a football game again. GD I get what you mean GD, I don't generally do that as Stoke is more of a family thing as I go with several of my family to each game so I don't tend to drink. But like I said I still don't agree with it as you can easily have plenty to drink and not end up acting like a total tosser. This measure seems completely pointless as loads and loads of fans go into football matches every week absolutely leathered and the amount of trouble that happens is minimal (and most of the time that trouble is associated with people just being idiots and not necessarily drinking). Will they test for Cocaine?
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Post by Bera’s Beano on May 2, 2015 8:54:40 GMT
To be fair a lot of the best atmosphere is caused by fans who've had a couple to many and are getting a bit jolly.
Some of the best chants start from a drunk guy's mouth.
I am thoroughly on the fence depending on how they plan on authorising what the limits are.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 2, 2015 8:56:33 GMT
It's unnecessary oppressive and just insulting.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 2, 2015 9:00:43 GMT
It's unnecessary oppressive and just insulting. Correct. Any police officer or indeed steward worth his salt should be able to spot somebody who's pissed before they get in the ground without resorting to breath testing potentially innocent fans.
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Post by JoeinOz on May 2, 2015 9:02:23 GMT
It's unnecessary oppressive and just insulting. Correct. Any police officer or indeed steward worth his salt should be able to spot somebody who's pissed before they get in the ground without resorting to breath testing potentially innocent fans. Also if the pissed person is likely to be troublesome.
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Post by Silkystoke on May 2, 2015 9:02:55 GMT
It's not that much of a problem, we have all moaned about a pissed up Stoke fan before, shouting, swearing, fighting etc etc , if it gets rid of him / them, well that's good...!!!!
I also like my beer, maybe 6/7/8 pints before a game, but I know when to stop, and I am sensible with it...!!!!!!
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 2, 2015 9:03:29 GMT
So you can turn up stone cold sober at 2pm, breath into the machine, be allowed entry and then spend an hour knocking back spirit after spirit at a bar INSIDE the ground?
They haven't thought this one through have they?
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Post by iplayinthehole on May 2, 2015 9:03:55 GMT
So long as this doesn't harm official FA partner Budweiser (no hypocrisy here you understand), I will be able to sleep easy at night.
Christ
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2015 9:06:29 GMT
'Do you mind blowing in to this, sir?' 'Do you mind shoving it up your fucking arse?' 'Do you mind not getting into the ground then sir?' There is no legal requirement for anyone to provide any sort of sample breath, piss or shit for a bloke in an Orange Jacket............yet
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Post by iplayinthehole on May 2, 2015 9:16:18 GMT
'Do you mind not getting into the ground then sir?' There is no legal requirement for anyone to provide any sort of sample breath, piss or shit for a bloke in an Orange Jacket............yet Do they reserve the right to refuse entry though?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 2, 2015 9:29:10 GMT
'Do you mind not getting into the ground then sir?' There is no legal requirement for anyone to provide any sort of sample breath, piss or shit for a bloke in an Orange Jacket............yet No but just as there is no law that says you have to submit to a search by some ape in a florescent jacket, if you don't outside a football ground, you don't get in. It seems that we have human rights until we get within a few yards of a football stadium.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 2, 2015 9:31:09 GMT
Correct. Any police officer or indeed steward worth his salt should be able to spot somebody who's pissed before they get in the ground without resorting to breath testing potentially innocent fans. Also if the pissed person is likely to be troublesome. Exactly.
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 9:36:58 GMT
The match day experience means different things to different people. For me it's never been purely about 90 minutes of football. Meeting up with the lads in Stoke for a few pre match beers. A couple in the ground then back down Stoke to either get pissed or to just have a few more before going home is what it was about. Away matches usually ended up with us getting pissed but that was our choice. We never hurt anyone and that was the key.
It's not the same as it used to be. The ground , the atmosphere, the fans , etc and this would just be another nail in the coffin for footy fans .
If a man goes to work Monday to Friday and fancys a drink on a Saturday afternoon with his pals whilst watching his team quite frankly that has got fuck all do with anyone else. As long as he isn't kicking off, the police and the authorities should butt out
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Post by shrewspotter on May 2, 2015 10:13:04 GMT
The cynic in me thinks this could be a way of selling more Beer in the stands before kick off, rather than going down the pub, I am sure that's not the case though hahaha
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Post by shrewspotter on May 2, 2015 10:18:17 GMT
The match day experience means different things to different people. For me it's never been purely about 90 minutes of football. Meeting up with the lads in Stoke for a few pre match beers. A couple in the ground then back down Stoke to either get pissed or to just have a few more before going home is what it was about. Away matches usually ended up with us getting pissed but that was our choice. We never hurt anyone and that was the key. It's not the same as it used to be. The ground , the atmosphere, the fans , etc and this would just be another nail in the coffin for footy fans . If a man goes to work Monday to Friday and fancys a drink on a Saturday afternoon with his pals whilst watching his team quite frankly that has got fuck all do with anyone else. As long as he isn't kicking off, the police and the authorities should butt out too right, my father and I get together for match days, we do change it round, at the moment it tends to be a couple of beers in the Hungry Horse (Hems Heath), 1 at the ground for the non driver then a couple when we get home to Shrewsbury, we certainly are not pissed and we are not looking to cause aggro, my Dad is 63 FFS. But if we decided to have more than a couple I cannot see what it has to do with anyone, if we tried to kick off, that's different but we are not.
All that said I really can't see this happening
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 10:23:00 GMT
The match day experience means different things to different people. For me it's never been purely about 90 minutes of football. Meeting up with the lads in Stoke for a few pre match beers. A couple in the ground then back down Stoke to either get pissed or to just have a few more before going home is what it was about. Away matches usually ended up with us getting pissed but that was our choice. We never hurt anyone and that was the key. It's not the same as it used to be. The ground , the atmosphere, the fans , etc and this would just be another nail in the coffin for footy fans . If a man goes to work Monday to Friday and fancys a drink on a Saturday afternoon with his pals whilst watching his team quite frankly that has got fuck all do with anyone else. As long as he isn't kicking off, the police and the authorities should butt out too right, my father and I get together for match days, we do change it round, at the moment it tends to be a couple of beers in the Hungry Horse (Hems Heath), 1 at the ground for the non driver then a couple when we get home to Shrewsbury, we certainly are not pissed and we are not looking to cause aggro, my Dad is 63 FFS. But if we decided to have more than a couple I cannot see what it has to do with anyone, if we tried to kick off, that's different but we are not.
All that said I really can't see this happening
Exactly mate. I can't see it happening to be honest
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 2, 2015 10:26:31 GMT
There's been many a time supporting Stoke where the match has actually got in the way of a bloody good day. Even now in these relatively halcyon days, the anticipation and the post mortem and tears are often better than the main event. A bit like sex really. Particularly the tears.
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Post by bathstoke on May 2, 2015 10:30:48 GMT
'Do you mind not getting into the ground then sir?' There is no legal requirement for anyone to provide any sort of sample breath, piss or shit for a bloke in an Orange Jacket............yet WTF would want to mess with your sh!t
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Post by basingstokie on May 2, 2015 10:49:58 GMT
Just heard on the radio that there will be a pilot today to breathalise fans at the Cambridge/Burton game. Is this the thin end of the wedge... So what's the limit - 80mg for driving, but it would have to be at least 2-3 times that or they'll be turning away thousands. Being drunk isn't the issue anyway, plenty of people will have a skinful and just sit there and watch the footy (aside from the frequent piss breaks) whereas others behave like complete idiots when they are stone cold sober.
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Post by harryhotspur on May 2, 2015 11:24:32 GMT
I live in Essex in Southend. This all came about because about a month ago there was a bad fight between Southend United and Cambridge fan in a coma fighting for his life. Both groups of fans were in their late 40's and early 50's and was a re-run of a battle they had 20 years ago. Happened in a pub right near where I live.
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 2, 2015 12:25:33 GMT
If I had four pints before a game I would miss half of it going for a piss.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 2, 2015 12:30:33 GMT
If I had four pints before a game I would miss half of it going for a piss. Correct. 8 or 10 is much better.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 2, 2015 12:35:06 GMT
If I had four pints before a game I would miss half of it going for a piss. Correct. 8 or 10 is much better. And then just piss where you're sitting. No need to keep getting up
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Post by Billybigbollox on May 2, 2015 12:37:01 GMT
Never mind the fans, they want to breathalise the fucking ref and Linos. If they ain't pissed they must be on some kind of pharmaceuticals.
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Post by unknown182 on May 2, 2015 12:37:32 GMT
Asking a bunch of pissed up fans to be breathalysed will cause more trouble than it's worth. There would be trouble at every gate if they introduced it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 2, 2015 12:47:47 GMT
I have mixed feelings, hard to imagine this won't hurt attendances however for a lot of fans football seems to be more about getting wasted then actually watching the game. I'm leaning towards supporting it Away days are all about an all dayer and the football match, just because people are drunk it doesn't automatically mean they'll be kicking off/causing trouble, its ridiculous, this and prices will kill away attendances.
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Post by kustokie on May 2, 2015 13:02:21 GMT
Might be tricky doing it for the directors and their guests in the director's box! I assume this will apply to the Royals at the Cup Final!
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Post by kustokie on May 2, 2015 13:06:47 GMT
There is no legal requirement for anyone to provide any sort of sample breath, piss or shit for a bloke in an Orange Jacket............yet No but just as there is no law that says you have to submit to a search by some ape in a florescent jacket, if you don't outside a football ground, you don't get in. It seems that we have human rights until we get within a few yards of a football stadium. Although this is total bollox, football grounds are private property and property owners can probably do whatever they want.
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