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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2015 12:39:47 GMT
Which selection of newspapers do you read? I don't buy any but I'll have a read of whatever happens to be at hand. The thing is though I don't blindly follow anything that is said by any media outlet. I have no allegience and no loyalty towards any paper. Most are full of spin. I have a quick read out of bordom but I take everything I read with a pinch of salt. I prefer to base my opinions and my judgements on first hand experiences. What I see and what I hear in the real world are what influence me when it comes to voting Do libertarians condone paedophile gangs of Muslims raping children across our country ?, do they condone the authorities that have covered these crimes up ?, do they condone racist politicians whichever party they represent and still continue to represent despite publically making racist remarks about a specific race ?.
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 12:41:34 GMT
I don't buy any but I'll have a read of whatever happens to be at hand. The thing is though I don't blindly follow anything that is said by any media outlet. I have no allegience and no loyalty towards any paper. Most are full of spin. I have a quick read out of bordom but I take everything I read with a pinch of salt. I prefer to base my opinions and my judgements on first hand experiences. What I see and what I hear in the real world are what influence me when it comes to voting So unlike me you don't read a wide selection of papers then? Thought not. I said I read whatever happens to be at hand so yea I do. Unlike you though I can think for myself
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 12:42:52 GMT
I don't buy any but I'll have a read of whatever happens to be at hand. The thing is though I don't blindly follow anything that is said by any media outlet. I have no allegience and no loyalty towards any paper. Most are full of spin. I have a quick read out of bordom but I take everything I read with a pinch of salt. I prefer to base my opinions and my judgements on first hand experiences. What I see and what I hear in the real world are what influence me when it comes to voting Do libertarians condone paedophile gangs of Muslims raping children across our country ?, do they condone the authorities that have covered these crimes up ?, do they condone racist politicians whichever party they represent and still continue to represent despite publically making racist remarks about a specific race ?. He calls himself a libertarian mate. He also calls himself fair minded and balanced. The truth is he is neither
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Post by desman2 on May 2, 2015 12:43:25 GMT
Does anyone want a scummer like this in Parliament
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 12:45:03 GMT
Does anyone want a scummer like this in Parliament What a sick bitch Shame on her and shame on Labour
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 12:48:18 GMT
Thanks for proving my point. UKIP SUSPENDS candidate . Why do Labour not suspend racists within their party? Guardian readers lol I've no idea as I'm not a labour party member or supporter. Next question? Your kidding no one mate If they are all as bad as each other as you say then I take it you include the Greens in that ? Or are they different because it suits your argument?
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 13:27:01 GMT
I don't buy any but I'll have a read of whatever happens to be at hand. The thing is though I don't blindly follow anything that is said by any media outlet. I have no allegience and no loyalty towards any paper. Most are full of spin. I have a quick read out of bordom but I take everything I read with a pinch of salt. I prefer to base my opinions and my judgements on first hand experiences. What I see and what I hear in the real world are what influence me when it comes to voting Do libertarians condone paedophile gangs of Muslims raping children across our country ?, do they condone the authorities that have covered these crimes up ?, do they condone racist politicians whichever party they represent and still continue to represent despite publically making racist remarks about a specific race ?. No decent human being condones any of the things you've mentioned above so this a daft post, I've got no idea what point you're trying to make.
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Post by desman2 on May 2, 2015 13:31:44 GMT
Does anyone want a scummer like this in Parliament What a sick bitch Shame on her and shame on Labour Which is why a vote for them would make me guilty by association. No thanks
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Post by ukcstokie on May 2, 2015 13:37:43 GMT
By "libertarian" I assume that's another name for someone who calls people racist if they don't like their views? ...so how come an apparently educated person is unable to form coherent arguments - and just resorts, time and time again, to posting silly little memes full or just made up nonsense (Mosely the same as Farage FFS - get a grip of yourself), lies and rubbish about UKIP (e.g."full of racists" without any evidence), and continued stuff about Farage? You see it's this kind of childish response from you that doesn't help I wouldn't call anyone a racist simply because I disagree with their views, unless of course their views are racist ones. UKIP has a large proportion of racists in it's ranks, a bitter truth for you but there you go. Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage. "Childish response"? Really? FFS. From somebody who has mastered the art of shit throwing. You continually label people/groups as racist without evidence - and when challenged run off and hide or ignore. It enables proper racists to get away with it. "UKIP has a large proportion of racists". It was "mostly racist" before wasn't it? When challenged on this before you've provided the flimsiest evidence. 2 people who aren't candidates or even UKIP members. And are you using your definition of "racist" - they have to have a conviction for race hate crimes? "Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage". What? They're both men? Have two legs? To even suggest this shows you are so far from reality that you have lost all objectivity. And again it shows that you're not interested in the slightest about engaging on policy? You just want to throw mud.
And to think you claim to be a Libertarian. You operate like the fascist left. Trying to shout down anybody you don't agree with. You throw mud and make stuff up - political freedom?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 13:38:00 GMT
Do libertarians condone paedophile gangs of Muslims raping children across our country ?, do they condone the authorities that have covered these crimes up ?, do they condone racist politicians whichever party they represent and still continue to represent despite publically making racist remarks about a specific race ?. No decent human being condones any of the things you've mentioned above so this a daft post, I've got no idea what point you're trying to make. It's OK Edge Carpslayer has a particular nasty streak in him which manifests in him trolling me relentlessly. He's a truly sad individual.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 13:40:16 GMT
You see it's this kind of childish response from you that doesn't help I wouldn't call anyone a racist simply because I disagree with their views, unless of course their views are racist ones. UKIP has a large proportion of racists in it's ranks, a bitter truth for you but there you go. Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage. "Childish response"? Really? FFS. From somebody who has mastered the art of shit throwing. You continually label people/groups as racist without evidence - and when challenged run off and hide or ignore. It enables proper racists to get away with it. "UKIP has a large proportion of racists". It was "mostly racist" before wasn't it? When challenged on this before you've provided the flimsiest evidence. 2 people who aren't candidates or even UKIP members. And are you using your definition of "racist" - they have to have a conviction for race hate crimes? "Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage". What? They're both men? Have two legs? To even suggest this shows you are so far from reality that you have lost all objectivity. And again it shows that you're not interested in the slightest about engaging on policy? You just want to throw mud.
And to think you claim to be a Libertarian. You operate like the fascist left. Trying to shout down anybody you don't agree with. You throw mud and make stuff up - political freedom? I do no such thing my friend. If you take the time you'll see my agenda is largely based on fact. Your responses lack wit or any intelligence.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 13:42:52 GMT
I've no idea as I'm not a labour party member or supporter. Next question? Your kidding no one mate If they are all as bad as each other as you say then I take it you include the Greens in that ? Or are they different because it suits your argument? You're as in "you are" Not your. So you do concede that UKIP are as bad as the rest then? Finally some daylight.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 13:53:55 GMT
By "libertarian" I assume that's another name for someone who calls people racist if they don't like their views? ...so how come an apparently educated person is unable to form coherent arguments - and just resorts, time and time again, to posting silly little memes full or just made up nonsense (Mosely the same as Farage FFS - get a grip of yourself), lies and rubbish about UKIP (e.g."full of racists" without any evidence), and continued stuff about Farage? You see it's this kind of childish response from you that doesn't help I wouldn't call anyone a racist simply because I disagree with their views, unless of course their views are racist ones. UKIP has a large proportion of racists in it's ranks, a bitter truth for you but there you go. Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage. You would presume any racists that support ukip would be low educated working class maybe types wouldn't you say? these have not just sprang up in a flash and bang from nowhere, these were probably staunch leftwing/labour supporters did you call labour racists? what you think and what is reality are poles apart ....but I still love you
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 14:02:01 GMT
You see it's this kind of childish response from you that doesn't help I wouldn't call anyone a racist simply because I disagree with their views, unless of course their views are racist ones. UKIP has a large proportion of racists in it's ranks, a bitter truth for you but there you go. Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage. You would presume any racists that support ukip would be low educated working class maybe types wouldn't you say? these have not just sprang up in a flash and bang from nowhere, these were probably staunch leftwing/labour supporters did you call labour racists? what you think and what is reality are poles apart ....but I still love you Indeed it's fair to say the BNP attracted loads of working class votes too. Love you too.......
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 14:15:39 GMT
You would presume any racists that support ukip would be low educated working class maybe types wouldn't you say? these have not just sprang up in a flash and bang from nowhere, these were probably staunch leftwing/labour supporters did you call labour racists? what you think and what is reality are poles apart ....but I still love you Indeed it's fair to say the BNP attracted loads of working class votes too. Love you too....... Yes they voted labour before Bnp .....have you ever called labour racists?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 14:29:33 GMT
Ukip is here to stay. Its tough shit if anyone thinks they're all racists .
Suck it up . Not everyone likes what they see on our streets . There is no law against joining and following a legitimate political party,
The End????????
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Post by edgepotter on May 2, 2015 14:53:58 GMT
You see it's this kind of childish response from you that doesn't help I wouldn't call anyone a racist simply because I disagree with their views, unless of course their views are racist ones. UKIP has a large proportion of racists in it's ranks, a bitter truth for you but there you go. Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage. You would presume any racists that support ukip would be low educated working class maybe types wouldn't you say? these have not just sprang up in a flash and bang from nowhere, these were probably staunch leftwing/labour supporters did you call labour racists? what you think and what is reality are poles apart ....but I still love you 'these were probably staunch leftwing/labour supporters' Another daft statement for which there is no evidence whatsoever.
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Post by ukcstokie on May 2, 2015 15:04:45 GMT
"Childish response"? Really? FFS. From somebody who has mastered the art of shit throwing. You continually label people/groups as racist without evidence - and when challenged run off and hide or ignore. It enables proper racists to get away with it. "UKIP has a large proportion of racists". It was "mostly racist" before wasn't it? When challenged on this before you've provided the flimsiest evidence. 2 people who aren't candidates or even UKIP members. And are you using your definition of "racist" - they have to have a conviction for race hate crimes? "Like it or not (and you don't hence your hostile responses) there are parallels to be drawn between Moseley and Farage". What? They're both men? Have two legs? To even suggest this shows you are so far from reality that you have lost all objectivity. And again it shows that you're not interested in the slightest about engaging on policy? You just want to throw mud.
And to think you claim to be a Libertarian. You operate like the fascist left. Trying to shout down anybody you don't agree with. You throw mud and make stuff up - political freedom? I do no such thing my friend. If you take the time you'll see my agenda is largely based on fact. Your responses lack wit or any intelligence. "I do no such thing my friend." The arguments and evidence you present are compelling "If you take the time you'll see my agenda is largely based on fact." I think you used the word "largely" when you should have used "rarely". As myself and others have shown ad nausea. "Your responses lack wit or any intelligence". I think given the originator of this comment that I'll take that as a complement.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 15:08:08 GMT
I do no such thing my friend. If you take the time you'll see my agenda is largely based on fact. Your responses lack wit or any intelligence. "I do no such thing my friend." The arguments and evidence you present are compelling "If you take the time you'll see my agenda is largely based on fact." I think you used the word "largely" when you should have used "rarely". As myself and others have shown ad nausea. "Your responses lack wit or any intelligence". I think given the originator of this comment that I'll take that as a complement. I fail to see where your statistical and factual input abound on here my friend.
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 15:20:51 GMT
Your kidding no one mate If they are all as bad as each other as you say then I take it you include the Greens in that ? Or are they different because it suits your argument? You're as in "you are" Not your. So you do concede that UKIP are as bad as the rest then? Finally some daylight. Typical response from a lefty that knows he's lost the argument. Be petty and pick upon on typos. When you have no come backs you resort to childish tactics . Well done And no I do not concede that "UKIP are as bad as the rest of them" Are you going to continue to ignore my question or are you going to answer me? If you think that they are all as bad as each other does that apply to the Greens as well or are they exempt because it suits your agenda?
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 15:23:27 GMT
No decent human being condones any of the things you've mentioned above so this a daft post, I've got no idea what point you're trying to make. It's OK Edge Carpslayer has a particular nasty streak in him which manifests in him trolling me relentlessly. He's a truly sad individual. Look at you playing the victim card yet again. You are the only nasty troll on this thread mate. Change your approach and change how you talk to people and you might find that people respond to you in a like wise manner.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 15:29:08 GMT
It's OK Edge Carpslayer has a particular nasty streak in him which manifests in him trolling me relentlessly. He's a truly sad individual. Look at you playing the victim card yet again. You are the only nasty troll on this thread mate. Change your approach and change how you talk to people and you might find that people respond to you in a like wise manner. Hilarious...really, really beyond belief.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 15:33:10 GMT
You're as in "you are" Not your. So you do concede that UKIP are as bad as the rest then? Finally some daylight. Typical response from a lefty that knows he's lost the argument. Be petty and pick upon on typos. When you have no come backs you resort to childish tactics . Well done And no I do not concede that "UKIP are as bad as the rest of them" Are you going to continue to ignore my question or are you going to answer me? If you think that they are all as bad as each other does that apply to the Greens as well or are they exempt because it suits your agenda? Well no, if you're going to claim the intellectual high ground at least try to spell properly. Makes you look a bit daft otherwise.
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 15:42:10 GMT
Typical response from a lefty that knows he's lost the argument. Be petty and pick upon on typos. When you have no come backs you resort to childish tactics . Well done And no I do not concede that "UKIP are as bad as the rest of them" Are you going to continue to ignore my question or are you going to answer me? If you think that they are all as bad as each other does that apply to the Greens as well or are they exempt because it suits your agenda? Well no, if you're going to claim the intellectual high ground at least try to spell properly. Makes you look a bit daft otherwise. My phone uses predictive text mate. Missing out an apostrophe isn't a measure of someone's intellect. You still haven't answered my question though. If you think they are all the same does that include the Greens as well or is that different?
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 15:46:12 GMT
Look at you playing the victim card yet again. You are the only nasty troll on this thread mate. Change your approach and change how you talk to people and you might find that people respond to you in a like wise manner. Hilarious...really, really beyond belief. Try it mate. Try talking to people on a level instead of talking down to people and you might find that people respond more positively. I detest your point of view and have opposite opinions to you on most things but that's fine. I'm still happy to debate with you in a friendly manner but once you start with your sarcasm and you start with your pedantic bullshit comments and you start telling lies and only telling half the story that's when people respond negatively . Like I've said more than once your problems are with yourself not with anyone else
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 2, 2015 15:49:09 GMT
Hilarious...really, really beyond belief. Try it mate. Try talking to people on a level instead of talking down to people and you might find that people respond more positively. I detest your point of view and have opposite opinions to you on most things but that's fine. I'm still happy to debate with you in a friendly manner but once you start with your sarcasm and you start with your pedantic bullshit comments and you start telling lies and only telling half the story that's when people respond negatively . Like I've said more than once your problems are with yourself not with anyone else Sorry "mate" but your posting history indicates you always talk down and hurl abuse at people. You have no idea what a friendly manner is I'm afraid. I have better things to do than waste my time with people like you.
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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2015 15:50:02 GMT
Does anyone want a scummer like this in Parliament What a sick bitch Shame on her and shame on Labour What in god's name is she on about, I wonder if the child in Rotherham who had her tongue nailed down and repeatedly buggered by Muslim paedophiles willingly engaged ?, or was she forcibly raped in the arse by these vile perverts the Labour party must condone this sort of sick stuff as well as dyed in the wool racists, they are still in their ranks.
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Post by crapslinger on May 2, 2015 15:51:51 GMT
Try it mate. Try talking to people on a level instead of talking down to people and you might find that people respond more positively. I detest your point of view and have opposite opinions to you on most things but that's fine. I'm still happy to debate with you in a friendly manner but once you start with your sarcasm and you start with your pedantic bullshit comments and you start telling lies and only telling half the story that's when people respond negatively . Like I've said more than once your problems are with yourself not with anyone else Sorry "mate" but your posting history indicates you always talk down and hurl abuse at people. You have no idea what a friendly manner is I'm afraid. I have better things to do than waste my time with people like you. No you don't you spend most of your life on this message board Sir
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 15:54:51 GMT
Try it mate. Try talking to people on a level instead of talking down to people and you might find that people respond more positively. I detest your point of view and have opposite opinions to you on most things but that's fine. I'm still happy to debate with you in a friendly manner but once you start with your sarcasm and you start with your pedantic bullshit comments and you start telling lies and only telling half the story that's when people respond negatively . Like I've said more than once your problems are with yourself not with anyone else Sorry "mate" but your posting history indicates you always talk down and hurl abuse at people. You have no idea what a friendly manner is I'm afraid. I have better things to do than waste my time with people like you. Look there you go again you can't help yourself can you. Listen mate. My tone with you is the way it is because of how you are. The way you talk down to people is disgusting. You aren't better than everyone else and your opinion isn't more important Still haven't answered my question though. Don't run off and go into hiding just yet mate. I want to know if when you say that they are all the same if that applies to the Greens as well or is that different?
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Post by stokeharry on May 2, 2015 15:56:19 GMT
Sorry "mate" but your posting history indicates you always talk down and hurl abuse at people. You have no idea what a friendly manner is I'm afraid. I have better things to do than waste my time with people like you. No you don't you spend most of your life on this message board Sir He's a cyber warrior. He thinks he's fighting some noble crusade against racism from the comfort of his arm chair. Truth is he isn't actually fighting anything. He's just making himself look silly.
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