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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 18:11:26 GMT
I don't trust em. Pretending to be the common man having a pint and a fag. Book burners the lot of em
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 18:13:25 GMT
Book burners, I think you'll find it's the left that want to curtail freedom of speech.
Either back your claims up with evidence or put a sock in it.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 18:15:33 GMT
I don't trust em. Pretending to be the common man having a pint and a fag. Book burners the lot of em Don't vote for them then mate. No one's forcing ya . Changes nothing though. I'll still be voting for them and so will many others
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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 18:15:41 GMT
Left is bad Right is right
Not ex BNP supporters my ring piece
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 18:16:45 GMT
Book burners, I think you'll find it's the left that want to curtail freedom of speech. Either back your claims up with evidence or put a sock in it. Correct. It's the left that are intent on brainwashing our kids and rewriting history. Sick fuckers
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 18:18:36 GMT
Left is bad Right is right Not ex BNP supporters my ring piece Depends what you mean by left and right. Both have lost their meaning and become umbrella terms. It's not necessarily left wing policies that I'm against. It's the smug patronising hypocrites that attach themselves to the left Hypocrites to a man
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 19, 2015 18:19:56 GMT
I'm not a UKIP supporter by any stretch of the imagination however anything that gets Labour out of Stoke-on-Trent is fine by me.
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 18:22:47 GMT
What confuses me is the left's recent love for Islam. Doesn't exactly fit in with the good things the left used to promote like feminism, gay rights and abolishing the death penalty.
Perhaps it's the totalitarianism they love.
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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 18:22:58 GMT
Bollox Harry it's a well known fact far right organisations infiltrate message boards like this to peddle their filth.
They have now got a legitimate party to hide behind. Some of the crap you read on here it is a certainty that has already happened on this board
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 18:24:41 GMT
Bollox Harry it's a well known fact far right organisations infiltrate message boards like this to peddle their filth. They have now got a legitimate party to hide behind. Some of the crap you read on here it is a certainty that has already happened on this board Says the user who entire post history consists of NOTHING but political arguments.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 18:28:16 GMT
Bollox Harry it's a well known fact far right organisations infiltrate message boards like this to peddle their filth. They have now got a legitimate party to hide behind. Some of the crap you read on here it is a certainty that has already happened on this board Bollocks. It's the left wing hypocrites that infiltrate message boards trying to preach their sick warped twisted views. You think you're clever but you aren't. Most people can see straight through it. It's not exactly difficult to see through your bullshit. You don't speak for the common working man and you never will. You keep burying your head in the sand and keep voting for the same old parties if you want to its no skin off my nose .
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 18:28:31 GMT
Seriously, you guy's should check out lommack's post history.
He has zero interest in ANYTHING other than spreading Marxist propoganda on this forum, and I mean zero.
I bet you're on forums for every other football team that has an off-topic forum.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 18:29:56 GMT
Bollox Harry it's a well known fact far right organisations infiltrate message boards like this to peddle their filth. They have now got a legitimate party to hide behind. Some of the crap you read on here it is a certainty that has already happened on this board Says the user who entire post history consists of NOTHING but political arguments. Another hypocrite with no idea of the world beyond his four walls. Plenty to say online but probably quiet as a mouse in real life
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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 18:37:25 GMT
Just keeping up an end up Nick, a different view is required sometimes (especially on this board)the lurch to the right recently has been astounding and the bullying of anybody with a different view equally astounding
Harry careful you might start coming across as a bit of a right wing bully
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 18:41:32 GMT
Just keeping up an end Nick, a different view is required sometimes (especially on this board)the lurch to the right recently has been astounding Harry careful you might start coming across as a right wing bully I'm a moderate, I'm certainly not a UKIP supporter, I'm not even a traditional Tory. I've been quite happy with Cameron's moderate government and was pleasantly surprised to see them pass gay marriage into law. For me voting UKIP is necessary to keep Labour out, if we had PR I'd be voting Conservative again.
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Post by dexta on Apr 19, 2015 18:47:54 GMT
Just keeping up an end Nick, a different view is required sometimes (especially on this board)the lurch to the right recently has been astounding Harry careful you might start coming across as a right wing bully I'm a moderate, I'm certainly not a UKIP supporter, I'm not even a traditional Tory. I've been quite happy with Cameron's moderate government and was pleasantly surprised to see them pass gay marriage into law. For me voting UKIP is necessary to keep Labour out, if we had PR I'd be voting Conservative again. does gay marriage mean alot to you fella...so you will be voting tory on the basis they passed a law for gay marriage
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 19, 2015 18:48:28 GMT
What confuses me is the left's recent love for Islam. Doesn't exactly fit in with the good things the left used to promote like feminism, gay rights and abolishing the death penalty. Perhaps it's the totalitarianism they love. Thats a great point, I've often wondered the same thing. How can a religion/culture that has yet to recognise equality for anyone, be held up in such high esteem? I'd of thought the liberal left would be all over the lack of rights for women/homosexuals, but of course their muddled thinking fails to recognise this. Back on point though, ignorning Lommack who's clearly on some sort of wind up, I think most voters of any type can see that a big vote for UKIP, in Stoke especially, will shake up the big 3 and stop them taking voters for granted. I've spoken with Rob Flello a couple of times and found him to be a reasonable enough bloke, but the Labour leadership is now so isolated from the electorate that they basically need a massive wake up call. I spent some time in Swansea last week, and to see the things they have going on there shows that we are falling furter and further behind similar sized cities. We need massive investment in our city and continually electing Labour MP's has shown that we end up receiving very little back in return. It's time we woke up and gave Labour the kick in the bollocks that they deserve.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 18:52:33 GMT
Just keeping up an end up Nick, a different view is required sometimes (especially on this board)the lurch to the right recently has been astounding and the bullying of anybody with a different view equally astounding Harry careful you might start coming across as a bit of a right wing bully I don't care how I come across mate. Anyone that knows me knows I am anything but a bully, the opinion of an anonymous left wing hypocrite on the Internet makes no odds to me what so ever. You're quick to call people Nazis just for having a different opinion than you but as soon as someone gives it back you accuse them of being a bully. Grow up mate , if you want people to take you seriously then try debating like an adult. I'll have a sensible discussion with people of a different political persuasion all day, I'm all for two grown men having a beer, putting the world to rights , talking about politics and agreeing to disagree but that's not the way it works in the virtual world. All too often message boards like this are hijacked by the far left in an attempt at provoking a reaction. Calling people Nazis , twisting people's words and taking a patronising self righteous tone is a well known lefty tactic and when people retaliate they throw their toys out of the pram. Childish
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 18:54:52 GMT
does gay marriage mean alot to you fella...so you will be voting tory on the basis they passed a law for gay marriage It was the right thing to do, but importantly it was an un-Tory like thing to do. I think the coalition suited my leaning, right of centre. We'll most likely end up with a more right leaning government in the form of a Tory-UKIP coalition, but I'd still take that over Red Ed's plan to take Britain back to the 1970s any day.
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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 18:58:21 GMT
The 70's would seem like some sort of utopia compared to the 1930's Britain a Dave and Nige marriage would take us back to
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 18:59:06 GMT
What confuses me is the left's recent love for Islam. Doesn't exactly fit in with the good things the left used to promote like feminism, gay rights and abolishing the death penalty. Perhaps it's the totalitarianism they love. Thats a great point, I've often wondered the same thing. How can a religion/culture that has yet to recognise equality for anyone, be held up in such high esteem? I'd of thought the liberal left would be all over the lack of rights for women/homosexuals, but of course their muddled thinking fails to recognise this. Because like I keep saying mate. They are hypocrites
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 19, 2015 19:00:29 GMT
Bollox Harry it's a well known fact far right organisations infiltrate message boards like this to peddle their filth. They have now got a legitimate party to hide behind. Some of the crap you read on here it is a certainty that has already happened on this board Bollocks. It's the left wing hypocrites that infiltrate message boards trying to preach their sick warped twisted views. You think you're clever but you aren't. Most people can see straight through it. It's not exactly difficult to see through your bullshit. You don't speak for the common working man and you never will. You keep burying your head in the sand and keep voting for the same old parties if you want to its no skin off my nose . Harry, maybe you'd like to tell us how many of your posts to date have been about Stoke City? Tell you what I'll save you the effort: it's less than one! Ionmack may have a point. You certainly fit the profile he's talking about.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 19:02:57 GMT
Bollocks. It's the left wing hypocrites that infiltrate message boards trying to preach their sick warped twisted views. You think you're clever but you aren't. Most people can see straight through it. It's not exactly difficult to see through your bullshit. You don't speak for the common working man and you never will. You keep burying your head in the sand and keep voting for the same old parties if you want to its no skin off my nose . Harry, maybe you'd like to tell us how many of your posts to date have been about Stoke City? Tell you what I'll save you the effort: it's less than one! Ionmack may have a point. You certainly fit the profile he's talking about. Looking back at your previous posts you come across as exactly the kind I'm talking about as well mate. Hypocrite
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 19, 2015 19:04:55 GMT
Just keeping up an end Nick, a different view is required sometimes (especially on this board)the lurch to the right recently has been astounding Harry careful you might start coming across as a right wing bully I'm a moderate, I'm certainly not a UKIP supporter, I'm not even a traditional Tory. I've been quite happy with Cameron's moderate government and was pleasantly surprised to see them pass gay marriage into law. For me voting UKIP is necessary to keep Labour out, if we had PR I'd be voting Conservative again. Voting UKIP could well put Labour in. Depends, of course, on which constituency you're voting in. If all the folks voting UKIP voted Tory there's a fair chance Cameron would win with a landslide.
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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 19:07:28 GMT
He's a definate Partick
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 19:08:30 GMT
Exactly, but as I'm in Stoke drawing a picture of a penis on my ballot paper would be as much use as voting Labour.
If you're a Tory in a working class area where UKIP are the chance of beating Labour to a seat, then vote UKIP.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 19:08:49 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 19, 2015 19:12:45 GMT
Harry, maybe you'd like to tell us how many of your posts to date have been about Stoke City? Tell you what I'll save you the effort: it's less than one! Ionmack may have a point. You certainly fit the profile he's talking about. Looking back at your previous posts you come across as exactly the kind I'm talking about as well mate. Hypocrite Oh dear - that's not very civil. Help me out, where have I ever been hypocritical. I note though that you couldn't respond to your lack of posts about Stoke City. It looks like Ionmack called you spot on. Cmon fella, prove him wrong. Share with us your thoughts on Saturday's game. It was a home game against Southampton in the English Premier League which we won 2-1, just in case you need a little prompting.
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 19, 2015 19:16:52 GMT
Exactly, but as I'm in Stoke drawing a picture of a penis on my ballot paper would be as much use as voting Labour. If you're a Tory in a working class area where UKIP are the chance of beating Labour to a seat, then vote UKIP. It's how things have been up here in Glasgow for generations. Labour have taken their Scottish vote as a given for a long time. Looks like their complacency will cost them dear this time. Be interesting to see if the same thing happens in their heartlands down south.
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Post by Northy on Apr 19, 2015 19:17:33 GMT
I've not seen that article before , but it comes as no great surprise . I've being saying the same for well over a decade , but many people have been blinkered or feared of being branded racist . We are not only told of what is politically correct to say , but also what is politically correct to think . I think for myself and say what I know to be true . Ten years from now , Labour will have a massive majority ....trust me . I'm quite surprised, I've highlighted it and similar ones in the past, in my 'Blair should be up for treason' tirades.
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