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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 19, 2015 8:28:23 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 19, 2015 8:31:12 GMT
No. 10.4% classes technically as marginal but it would be a huge turn up if Labour didn't win it.
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 8:34:38 GMT
I hope so. I'm in Stoke South and everyone I speak to says they will be voting ukip but we'll see
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 19, 2015 8:36:42 GMT
Saw somewhere that Stoke South was something like number 27 on UKIP's winnable seat list. Will obviously take some doing to cause a change, but it's certainly possible. Will come down to how many from each of the 2 main parties switch and I think just as many Labour voters as Tories will, could be close.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 8:41:40 GMT
Ukip will surprise a lot in this election......in Stoke south and a lot more places....I've just heard cameron say ukip will be lucky to win one seat.........he's a fucking fool burying his head like this
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Post by lordb on Apr 19, 2015 8:42:40 GMT
No chance of UKIP winning the seat.
What might happen is UKIP take votes from Labour and not the Tories allowing Conservatives to win the seat.
However Labour winning with a reduced majority is most likely.
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Post by lordb on Apr 19, 2015 8:44:26 GMT
Ukip will surprise a lot in this election......I've just heard cameron say ukip will be lucky to win one seat.........he's a fucking fool burying his head like this If they get more than five seats that will be startling. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 8:49:48 GMT
Ukip will surprise a lot in this election......I've just heard cameron say ukip will be lucky to win one seat.........he's a fucking fool burying his head like this If they get more than five seats that will be startling. Well that'll be five times more than cameron believes and rub your eyes you're about to be startled  |
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Post by lordb on Apr 19, 2015 8:51:04 GMT
Six then?
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 19, 2015 8:51:50 GMT
No chance of UKIP winning the seat. What might happen is UKIP take votes from Labour and not the Tories allowing Conservatives to win the seat. However Labour winning with a reduced majority is most likely. Anyone who's aim is to not end up with a Labour MP who votes Tory, is wasting their vote in Stoke South. I agree that the most probable outcome is Labour with a much reduced majority but if enough Labour supporters desert desperate Ed then an upset is clearly possible. How much of the Asian vote will switch to the Asian UKIP candidate (who by the way is a local man, no parachuting in the toffs from UKIP)? This could be the deciding factor. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 8:53:34 GMT
Saw somewhere that Stoke South was something like number 27 on UKIP's winnable seat list. Will obviously take some doing to cause a change, but it's certainly possible. Will come down to how many from each of the 2 main parties switch and I think just as many Labour voters as Tories will, could be close. Yes , infact I think that there will be far more Labour supporters switching than there will be Tory ones. As for UKIPs chances , well there are a number of factors to consider . Many Labour supporters are upset with the image of the area and many are on the sharp end of it . Wherever you are in the country wages tend to be a lot lower where there is a big influx of immigrants and Stoke on Trent is no different . One also has to consider who our ethnic friends are likely to vote for and the answer to that one is definitely Labour ( you never cut off the mouth that feeds ) , so UKIP has a very tough task on its hands . The fact that many Tories like the message that Farage is putting out is outweighed by his policy of pulling out of EUrope altogether , as many stand far more to lose financially if ever this was to happen. Summarising .....I think UKIP will draw gasps of astonishment far and wide. One simply cannot draw on the experiences and thoughts of a very small group of people on here for example. However , you can see just recently a big reluctance by the More resolute Labour supporters to show support for Ed MIlliband . I am neither surprised or apportion any blame on them either. He is a man on a path of self destruction . If the health service wasn't in such a bad state , then his other ideas would be simply ignored . The party is a rudderless ship at the moment but it's socialist ideals still remain . It's just very sad that we have to include 300,000 more sad cases in the stats each year , when really the vast majority only become British after signing a piece of paper. |
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 8:57:05 GMT
If everyone that said they were voting UKIP actually got off their arses and voted there would be a very VERY high chance. But come the day I suspect most will be too lazy but then the same people will moan about the immigration problem , moan about the jobs situation and moan about how things are run. If you conner be arsed vote dunner moan .
Simples
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 9:01:47 GMT
If everyone that said they were voting UKIP actually got off their arses and voted there would be a very VERY high chance. But come the day I suspect most will be too lazy but then the same people will moan about the immigration problem , moan about the jobs situation and moan about how things are run. If you conner be arsed vote dunner moan . If Simples I'm tempted to suggest that this time around the electorate is much more likely to cast its vote. Immigration , Zero hours contracts , Pulling out of Europe , the appalling state of the NHS are all big stimulants to get people out of the comfy chairs . |
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 9:01:47 GMT
No chance of UKIP winning the seat. What might happen is UKIP take votes from Labour and not the Tories allowing Conservatives to win the seat. However Labour winning with a reduced majority is most likely. Anyone who's aim is to not end up with a Labour MP who votes Tory, is wasting their vote in Stoke South. I agree that the most probable outcome is Labour with a much reduced majority but if enough Labour supporters desert desperate Ed then an upset is clearly possible. How much of the Asian vote will switch to the Asian UKIP candidate (who by the way is a local man, no parachuting in the toffs from UKIP)? This could be the deciding factor. I've had a UKIP flyer posted through my door twice in the past month , on the first occasion it was posted by an Indian gentleman and on the 2nd occasion it was posted by a mixed race Lady. That can't be right though. I thought UKIP were racist? :/ |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 9:05:47 GMT
I don't know what it's like around Stoke on Trent , but I haven't seen one single UKIP poster or sticker so far .
In the main it has been Conservative , but that's no big surprise I suppose. Although , there are quite a few more wealthy families voting Labour ....(NHS staff in the main )
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 9:12:02 GMT
I don't know what it's like around Stoke on Trent , but I haven't seen one single UKIP poster or sticker so far . In the main it has been Conservative , but that's no big surprise I suppose. Although , there are quite a few more wealthy families voting Labour ....(NHS staff in the main ) Not seen many official billboards or posters to be honest but seen plenty of flyers stuck up in house windows . There is a big UKIP board on the side of the A34 just past Stone . Surprised it hasn't been removed due to the hippy brigade feeling "offended" by it |
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Post by craig67 on Apr 19, 2015 9:13:26 GMT
Saw somewhere that Stoke South was something like number 27 on UKIP's winnable seat list. Will obviously take some doing to cause a change, but it's certainly possible. Will come down to how many from each of the 2 main parties switch and I think just as many Labour voters as Tories will, could be close. 27th on winnable seats! Much as I hate to say it they will be lucky to be anywhere near 5 seats letalone 27! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 9:16:56 GMT
........and by the next election with current rates of immigration there will be at least 1,000,000 more potential Labour supporters . A swing to the left .
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 9:22:13 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 19, 2015 9:27:44 GMT
Saw somewhere that Stoke South was something like number 27 on UKIP's winnable seat list. Will obviously take some doing to cause a change, but it's certainly possible. Will come down to how many from each of the 2 main parties switch and I think just as many Labour voters as Tories will, could be close. 27th on winnable seats! Much as I hate to say it they will be lucky to be anywhere near 5 seats letalone 27! I agree however it may not be the number of seats they gain that will shake the main parties, if enough people can be arsed to vote for UKIP the numbers alone could cause shockwaves that will shake the others into action. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 9:29:25 GMT
I've not seen that article before , but it comes as no great surprise . I've being saying the same for well over a decade , but many people have been blinkered or feared of being branded racist . We are not only told of what is politically correct to say , but also what is politically correct to think . I think for myself and say what I know to be true . Ten years from now , Labour will have a massive majority ....trust me . |
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 9:40:01 GMT
I've not seen that article before , but it comes as no great surprise . I've being saying the same for well over a decade , but many people have been blinkered or feared of being branded racist . We are not only told of what is politically correct to say , but also what is politically correct to think . I think for myself and say what I know to be true . Ten years from now , Labour will have a massive majority ....trust me . I've gone past caring what the PC brigade think mate. I'm not racist , I judge people based on what they are like as individuals. I don't believe anyone should be oppressed based on skin colour but atthe same time I don't think it's right that someone should get jobs etc because they are black. "Positive" discrimination is racism in my eyes but because it's usually the white man that suffers the PC brigade think it's ok It doesn't matter how many times you explain yourself , the loony left will try their hardest to twist your words and paint you as a racist. They are obsessed with racism . Being concerned about immigration doesn't make you a racist but according to the PC brigade it does and that's why I take their claims of racism elsewhere with a pinch of salt. |
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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 9:42:31 GMT
Are UKIP becoming the natural successors to the BNP?
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 9:46:10 GMT
Are UKIP becoming the natural successors to the BNP? No mate. Two different parties. The BNP were racist and UKIP aren't. Massive difference. World's apart Nice try though  |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 19, 2015 9:50:01 GMT
Are UKIP becoming the natural successors to the BNP? Change your bait the one you are using stinks  |
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 9:51:44 GMT
Are UKIP becoming the natural successors to the BNP? Change your bait the one you are using stinks Luckily most people can see through it these days |
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Post by lommack on Apr 19, 2015 9:56:32 GMT
Are UKIP becoming the natural successors to the BNP? No mate. Two different parties. The BNP were racist and UKIP aren't. Massive difference. World's apart Nice try though Stoke south always attracted the extreme right wing vote though, even voting for a Nazi councillor a few years ago. Those voters have no political home and it seems that UKIP have naturally filled that void. It would be interesting to find out how many UKIP supporters once supported/voted for the BNP Did you? |
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Post by kbillyh on Apr 19, 2015 9:56:44 GMT
Are UKIP becoming the natural successors to the BNP? Who will traditional BNP voters will turn to now? Ukip would be my guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 10:09:42 GMT
Are UKIP becoming the natural successors to the BNP? Who will traditional BNP voters will turn to now? Ukip would be my guess. Don't fret , the Muslim Party of Great Britain will surface soon ....happy days Eh ?   |
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Post by stokeharry on Apr 19, 2015 10:16:42 GMT
No mate. Two different parties. The BNP were racist and UKIP aren't. Massive difference. World's apart Nice try though Stoke south always attracted the extreme right wing vote though, even voting for a Nazi councillor a few years ago. Those voters have no political home and it seems that UKIP have naturally filled that void. It would be interesting to find out how many UKIP supporters once supported/voted for the BNP Did you? The Nazis were defeated during WWII mate. They ceased to exist post 1945 . I have never voted BNP no, I aren't attracted to parties like the BNP, their policies don't appeal to me. I prefer a more logical , sensible , fair approach , hence why I will be voting UKIP . Previously I have been a Labour voter. Not anymore . UKIP all the way for me now  |
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