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Post by geoff321 on Apr 11, 2015 22:08:00 GMT
That well known Pulis admirer Pugsley said in a remarkable post that the work of Alan Irvine had virtually ensured West Broms' survival. In total Irvine was in charge for 22 games, winning 5, drawing 6 and losing 11, with a win ratio of 22.73%.
Pulis has been in charge for 16 games, winning 7, drawing 3 and losing 6, with a win ratio of 43.75%, I also think he was PL manager of the month for February.
It struck me Mark that as you like to be accurate in your own posts that you might have at least queried with Pugsley the evidence behind his claim that Irvine had virtually ensured their survival, if only to show your historical and ongoing balance on all things related to TP.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 11, 2015 22:14:22 GMT
I'm sure if we were in the position that west brom are in at this point of the season we'd be doomed by the ones saying that west brom will be fine.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2015 22:16:34 GMT
I'm sure if we were in the position that west brom are in at this point of the season we'd be doomed by the ones saying that west brom will be fine. I'd be bricking it.
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Post by Scrotnig on Apr 11, 2015 22:17:03 GMT
If it was us, I'd be saying we'd be fine too.
Too much pessimism among Stoke fans at times. We've done really well this year in difficult circumstances. Glad I'm not a fan of any other club.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2015 22:18:57 GMT
That well known Pulis admirer Pugsley said in a remarkable post that the work of Alan Irvine had virtually ensured West Broms' survival. In total Irvine was in charge for 22 games, winning 5, drawing 6 and losing 11, with a win ratio of 22.73%. Pulis has been in charge for 16 games, winning 7, drawing 3 and losing 6, with a win ratio of 43.75%, I also think he was PL manager of the month for February. It struck me Mark that as you like to be accurate in your own posts that you might have at least queried with Pugsley the evidence behind his claim that Irvine had virtually ensured their survival, if only to show your historical and ongoing balance on all things related to TP. What a 42 karat plonker you really are Geoff. It was a wind up, specifically for numpties like you.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 11, 2015 22:20:14 GMT
I'm sure if we were in the position that west brom are in at this point of the season we'd be doomed by the ones saying that west brom will be fine. I'd be bricking it. And rightly so. They're right in 'it'.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 11, 2015 22:22:04 GMT
And rightly so. They're right in 'it'. I really aren't sure that they are. It would be hilarious though.
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 11, 2015 22:24:24 GMT
So let me get this right Pugs, you were mocking Irvine and supporting Pulis, I doubt many on this Board will buy that.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2015 22:26:00 GMT
So let me get this right Pugs, you were mocking Irvine and supporting Pulis, I doubt many on this Board will buy that. I wasn't doing either. I was casting my line hoping for a bite. As luck would have it I got the biggest whopper possible.
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 11, 2015 22:32:17 GMT
I think it's possible you've embarrassed yourself with the original post about Irvine ensuring their safety, but look I'll accept your word you were on a wind up and leave it there.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Apr 11, 2015 22:34:38 GMT
That well known Pulis admirer Pugsley said in a remarkable post that the work of Alan Irvine had virtually ensured West Broms' survival. In total Irvine was in charge for 22 games, winning 5, drawing 6 and losing 11, with a win ratio of 22.73%. Pulis has been in charge for 16 games, winning 7, drawing 3 and losing 6, with a win ratio of 43.75%, I also think he was PL manager of the month for February. It struck me Mark that as you like to be accurate in your own posts that you might have at least queried with Pugsley the evidence behind his claim that Irvine had virtually ensured their survival, if only to show your historical and ongoing balance on all things related to TP. Taking into account his honey moon period , let's see what the stats look like on the 24th may
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 11, 2015 22:36:24 GMT
I think it's possible you've embarrassed yourself with the original post about Irvine ensuring their safety, but look I'll accept your word you were on a wind up and leave it there. You think what you want. I know you've embarrassed yourself thinking it was a straight up post. Irvine was out of his depth, a terrible appointment which ended in terrible football and results. Pulis will keep them up with ease though the football will still be terrible.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Apr 11, 2015 22:53:18 GMT
I think it's possible you've embarrassed yourself with the original post about Irvine ensuring their safety, but look I'll accept your word you were on a wind up and leave it there. You think what you want. Â I know you've embarrassed yourself thinking it was a straight up post. Irvine was out of his depth, a terrible appointment which ended in terrible football and results. Â Pulis will keep them up with ease though the football will still be terrible. Make no mistake Irvine would of kept them up , they looked decent !
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Post by spongebobflathead on Apr 11, 2015 23:05:27 GMT
Irvine reaped 21 points from 22 games , take that average to 32 games (currently played ) and he would be currently be on 31 points and lying in 15th , two points worse off then they are now and one position lower , tp has hardly worked miracles !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 23:17:04 GMT
That well known Pulis admirer Pugsley said in a remarkable post that the work of Alan Irvine had virtually ensured West Broms' survival. In total Irvine was in charge for 22 games, winning 5, drawing 6 and losing 11, with a win ratio of 22.73%. Pulis has been in charge for 16 games, winning 7, drawing 3 and losing 6, with a win ratio of 43.75%, I also think he was PL manager of the month for February. It struck me Mark that as you like to be accurate in your own posts that you might have at least queried with Pugsley the evidence behind his claim that Irvine had virtually ensured their survival, if only to show your historical and ongoing balance on all things related to TP. As the post is about Premier League survival geoff, I feel it only right to strip out the FA Cup matches, giving Pulis a record of W4 D3 L5.......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 23:47:56 GMT
WOW the troll is now showing his teeth. Exposing himself as a troll.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Apr 12, 2015 0:00:02 GMT
So for accurate perspective Pulis 12 games = 13 points Over 32 games 35 points Irvine 20 games = 18 points over 32 games 29 points
Take into account the rest of the results at the end of the season it will be interesting to see how pulis's record stands up against Irvine , not much in it I would say
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 12, 2015 0:03:07 GMT
IMHO they weren't in drastic danger of the drop.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Apr 12, 2015 8:15:21 GMT
That well known Pulis admirer Pugsley said in a remarkable post that the work of Alan Irvine had virtually ensured West Broms' survival. In total Irvine was in charge for 22 games, winning 5, drawing 6 and losing 11, with a win ratio of 22.73%. Pulis has been in charge for 16 games, winning 7, drawing 3 and losing 6, with a win ratio of 43.75%, I also think he was PL manager of the month for February. It struck me Mark that as you like to be accurate in your own posts that you might have at least queried with Pugsley the evidence behind his claim that Irvine had virtually ensured their survival, if only to show your historical and ongoing balance on all things related to TP. Are they impressed with your attention to detail on West Brom.com, Geoff?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 12, 2015 8:19:23 GMT
That well known Pulis admirer Pugsley said in a remarkable post that the work of Alan Irvine had virtually ensured West Broms' survival. In total Irvine was in charge for 22 games, winning 5, drawing 6 and losing 11, with a win ratio of 22.73%. Pulis has been in charge for 16 games, winning 7, drawing 3 and losing 6, with a win ratio of 43.75%, I also think he was PL manager of the month for February. It struck me Mark that as you like to be accurate in your own posts that you might have at least queried with Pugsley the evidence behind his claim that Irvine had virtually ensured their survival, if only to show your historical and ongoing balance on all things related to TP. Are they impressed with your attention to detail on West Brom.com, Geoff? And more importantly what is Tone having on his toast this morning?
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 12, 2015 8:39:19 GMT
There is a chance, too deal with the OP question, that West Brom could go down especially when you see their remaining fixtures, but a couple of points will certainly see off that threat. The losses to QPR and Leicester were really poor results and a shock when you look at the form of those clubs.
I made it clear that the figures I quoted for Irvine and Pulis in my earlier post were based on their total games in charge. Alan Irvine had an overall win rate of just over 22% and had lost seven, drawn one of his last nine PL games, any manager with those sort of results would always be in danger of the sack and was potentially taking Albion down. A few other people are quoting statistics about Irvine but I'm fairly sure he achieved 16 or 17 points in the league and was one point off the relegation zone.
I've absolutely no doubt some West Brom supporters will have now turned against Pulis, but my guess is he will keep them up and get a chance to take them forward next year.
W.B.A. are a 'flip flop' club and probably always will be, but possibly not why TP is in charge.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Apr 12, 2015 8:49:44 GMT
There is a chance, too deal with the OP question, that West Brom could go down especially when you see their remaining fixtures, but a couple of points will certainly see off that threat. The losses to QPR and Leicester were really poor results and a shock when you look at the form of those clubs. I made it clear that the figures I quoted for Irvine and Pulis in my earlier post were based on their total games in charge. Alan Irvine had an overall win rate of just over 22% and had lost seven, drawn one of his last nine PL games, any manager with those sort of results would always be in danger of the sack and was potentially taking Albion down. A few other people are quoting statistics about Irvine but I'm fairly sure he achieved 16 or 17 points in the league and was one point off the relegation zone. I've absolutely no doubt some West Brom supporters will have now turned against Pulis, but my guess is he will keep them up and get a chance to take them forward next year. W.B.A. are a 'flip flop' club and probably always will be, but possibly not why TP is in charge. What do these fickle wavering West Brom fans have to say for themselves when faced with your cold hard facts and stats, Geoff? I hope none of the disbelievers point out your stats neglect the fact that one had the benefit of the use of a transfer window and one didn't?
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 12, 2015 9:11:01 GMT
I've no idea Mark whether any Albion fans bother with cold hard facts and stats, certainly some Stoke fans didn't when Pulis was here.
Regarding transfers didn't Albion sign some players in the close season such as Lescott and then Pulis added a few more in the window, not sure there's a big issue here.
Pulis kept Palace up which was a remarkable feat, some are trying to say Albion were never in danger under Irvine, that flies in the face of the facts.
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 12, 2015 9:27:39 GMT
Three defeats on the bounce now for West Brom - no joy since a home win against................ us!
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Post by dadofsam on Apr 12, 2015 9:41:24 GMT
I want them to stay up and get taken over by a billionaire and then I'll have the pleasure of watching Pulis spunking their cash.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Apr 12, 2015 9:51:34 GMT
I've no idea Mark whether any Albion fans bother with cold hard facts and stats, certainly some Stoke fans didn't when Pulis was here. Regarding transfers didn't Albion sign some players in the close season such as Lescott and then Pulis added a few more in the window, not sure there's a big issue here. Pulis kept Palace up which was a remarkable feat, some are trying to say Albion were never in danger under Irvine, that flies in the face of the facts. Why have you no idea? You introduced yourself here as a neutral and have harranged us with Pulis tribute performances ever since. Why are you denying Albion fans the same benefit of your neutral observations. You've also fingered s problem right there. You offered numbers to people who watched. Pardew must be god if you get my drift?
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Post by jarhead on Apr 12, 2015 10:26:16 GMT
Would much prefer to see Sunderland go. That would proper tickle me. In true Kevin Keegan style ' I would Love it' Love it ,if they went down' the deluded fuck wipes.
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 12, 2015 10:56:10 GMT
Having been born and lived in North Staffs all my life Mark why would I go onto an Albion Fans Forum? My interest in Pulis relates to his achievements for Stoke and my concern at the time that his departure might have led to a decline at the club, something that has clearly not happened. If Albion fans turn on Pulis and he is sacked that's there problem and his, certainly not mine. I would however like to think that the Pulis legacy at Stoke will be treated with respect as the years go by, something which I think most Stoke fans will agree with.
As for Pardew he has done a remarkable job, I won't say miracle because I know that is a word you believe should not apply to football and football managers.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 12, 2015 13:30:51 GMT
There is a chance, too deal with the OP question, that West Brom could go down especially when you see their remaining fixtures, but a couple of points will certainly see off that threat. The losses to QPR and Leicester were really poor results and a shock when you look at the form of those clubs. I made it clear that the figures I quoted for Irvine and Pulis in my earlier post were based on their total games in charge. Alan Irvine had an overall win rate of just over 22% and had lost seven, drawn one of his last nine PL games, any manager with those sort of results would always be in danger of the sack and was potentially taking Albion down. A few other people are quoting statistics about Irvine but I'm fairly sure he achieved 16 or 17 points in the league and was one point off the relegation zone. I've absolutely no doubt some West Brom supporters will have now turned against Pulis, but my guess is he will keep them up and get a chance to take them forward next year. W.B.A. are a 'flip flop' club and probably always will be, but possibly not why TP is in charge. They were in a slump BUT they weren't IMHO, a real chance of going down. They would have survived. Now I can't prove they would have survived neither can you prove they wouldn't have.
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Post by geoff321 on Apr 12, 2015 13:47:29 GMT
If you lose seven out of nine games with one draw and are heading towards Christmas then you are in deep trouble Joe, in any case the Chairman must have thought so and he's the man that counts.
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