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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 10:44:22 GMT
Immediate contract awards - tendering assumed done - 3 months to get the steel fabricated - 3 months in parallel - site mobilisation - site clearance - sort out the access routes and drainage - uncover the pre-existing ground beams - get the bolting and connectors in place ready for the steel
pre cast concrete sections and cladding / roofing ordered in parallel too - overall timescale to do this - 4 -6 months tops, across the summer for the construction / commission phase for, an opening in September / October 2015 --- taking advantage of the weather window.
I notice quite rightly Sir Peter Coates announces three player priorities in the summer too - quite right also but
Given the recent prudence exhibited by our club, set with the income the club is now receiving along the lines of :-
from Sky only (there are other smaller income streams too)
2012/13 = £46m
2013/14 = £76m
this season (assume the same £76m)
next season - by all accounts under the new agreement - the club finishing bottom gets approximately £100m
surely we can therefore afford to invent and invest on multiple fronts ????????
i.e. a well run club now with an excess of cash - no doubt lots of parasites will be circling wanting 'a piece of the new action' and, overheads are already pretty massive but - we now handle those too.
But - I still completely fail to see why shoving a few extra seats in one corner has not yet been announced ????????????????????????????????????????
its incomprehensible and hard to justify the clubs 'head in the sand' approach to this surely ?
helps us so much with the Financial Fair Play rules - improves flexibiilty and access for our customer base (existing and new) - FFP income quotas and the overall development of our club,
It also sends a very necessary and a very clear message right now, to all our peers, competitors and not least, those watching around the world.
SO -why do we continue to dither ?
What on earth is stopping this ?
No excuses - No prevarication - No hiding behind season ticket sales or car parking restrictions
Get this done now !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 10:48:13 GMT
I blame Kitson.
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Post by 2004 on Apr 7, 2015 10:50:25 GMT
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 7, 2015 10:51:29 GMT
I've got a mate who works at the ground who reckons they're not doing it just to piss you off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 10:53:47 GMT
Well they are succeeding - I have seen us at the crossroads before - just like this and more often than not we fail to take advantage as we should - right now
still gobsmacked we moved grounds actually
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Post by Linx on Apr 7, 2015 11:00:33 GMT
I am beginning to think that you are slightly obsessed, tone.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 7, 2015 11:07:54 GMT
You've really thought this through haven't you Tone?  |
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Post by redandwhitetundra on Apr 7, 2015 11:08:33 GMT
I think I'm a bit ignorant or missed something.
Which corner do you want filling in?
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 7, 2015 11:09:22 GMT
Next season income is the same as this. TV deals are 3 years at a time.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 7, 2015 11:11:16 GMT
Well they are succeeding - I have seen us at the crossroads before - just like this and more often than not we fail to take advantage as we should - right now still gobsmacked we moved grounds actually I wish we could bloody move back! |
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 7, 2015 11:13:34 GMT
Well, we haven't had one of these "tony" threads for a while.
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Post by choppyc on Apr 7, 2015 11:17:35 GMT
For those that are better informed than me in matters of architecture & have given it more thought , is it even possible to fill in more than the
Video screen corner ,should the need ever arise ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 11:26:51 GMT
The other corner gets done by wrapping the main stand around to the boothen end preserving the emergency access and instead of continuing the lines of corporate boxes around, we feature a world class media centre with bespoke viewing and studio areas included in the build welcoming all the big media players to a 'state of the art' facility
the above all in good time though - 'Mickey mouse'scoreboard corner getting us to a 30k 'bums on seats' capacity, seems to be first off
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Post by Nick1984 on Apr 7, 2015 11:41:13 GMT
For those that are better informed than me in matters of architecture & have given it more thought , is it even possible to fill in more than the Video screen corner ,should the need ever arise ? The stadium was designed to have seating in the scoreboard corner, apparently they even laid footings for a stand.  "The plans show that the new corner would add 1,780 extra seats in the south-east corner of the ground – between the South Stand and Seddon Stand – and so increase overall capacity to 30,172." The tunnel and shop corner would be much more costly to fill in. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 7, 2015 11:54:36 GMT
The other corner gets done by wrapping the main stand around to the boothen end preserving the emergency access and instead of continuing the lines of corporate boxes around, we feature a world class media centre with bespoke viewing and studio areas included in the build welcoming all the big media players to a 'state of the art' facility Have you ever played the computer game SimCity? I reckon you'd bloody love it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 12:01:56 GMT
Not exactly rocket science is this - is it ?
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Post by DentySCFC on Apr 7, 2015 12:25:05 GMT
I've heard they're taking the corner out between the Boothen and Novus stands just to piss Tone off.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 7, 2015 12:44:23 GMT
Tony have you ever tried to get a discussion directly with Stoke City as opposed to just this messageboard?
If you re-directed your energies towards Tony Scholes and ultimately Peter Coates you could be our leader and get this pioneering project going.
Ill sign your petition if you want to get one going
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 12:51:03 GMT
I will write to them at some stage if this does not happen by the summer
interesting that some of my stuff, I know for a fact, has already been picked up by the local media and presented to the club previously so indirectly -
my one man show in this regard - has gotten through to some extent already
I just want to keep it on their agenda and I cannot imagine the club does not scan this message board from time to time to see
'whats occurring'
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Post by thebet365 on Apr 7, 2015 13:00:37 GMT
It's not happening this summer. It would have already been announced/info leaked from the contractors in some form. A job like that under time restrictions with the season etc would have to be planned in advance, contractors agreed, booked in, penalties for delays blah blah blah.
Can't just ring someone up off yell and order a stand for in less than 8 weeks.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 7, 2015 13:04:41 GMT
Im with ya Tony. Lets get a poll going on the oatcake for start and then petition Scholes for a meeting to discuss it with some supporters. Affirmative action here we come
tony.scholes@stokecityfc.com
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 7, 2015 13:05:51 GMT
I will write to them at some stage if this does not happen by the summer interesting that some of my stuff, I know for a fact, has already been picked up by the local media and presented to the club previously so indirectly - my one man show in this regard - has gotten through to some extent already Did your face burn brighter than a 10,000,000,000 watt bulb when you heard that?  |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 7, 2015 13:12:59 GMT
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 7, 2015 13:16:10 GMT
Admin I wonder if you can put this poll to the top for a while?
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 7, 2015 13:25:29 GMT
Admin I wonder if you can put this poll to the top for a while? Seconded. Please pin this to stop Tony starting a new thread on the same bloody topic every fortnight. |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 7, 2015 13:30:15 GMT
The other corner gets done by wrapping the main stand around to the boothen end preserving the emergency access and instead of continuing the lines of corporate boxes around, we feature a world class media centre with bespoke viewing and studio areas included in the build welcoming all the big media players to a 'state of the art' facility the above all in good time though - 'Mickey mouse'scoreboard corner getting us to a 30k 'bums on seats' capacity, seems to be first off Cant help but think a media suite would be better suited on top of the shop as we'd never be able to get seats there? And put seats in the main stand to boothen corner with some more boxes? Then we can start to address the issues outside the ground re access, parking, general soulessness When you look at the creative push and willingness Orlando City did to #FillTheBowl, it makes us look amateur in comparison. I refuse to believe with the right brains and effort at the club we couldnt #FillTheCorner |
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Post by thestokielad on Apr 7, 2015 13:42:19 GMT
It needs filling in asap. We are a top half premier league team it should be at least 30,000 capacity
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Post by Northy on Apr 7, 2015 13:43:28 GMT
The other corner gets done by wrapping the main stand around to the boothen end preserving the emergency access and instead of continuing the lines of corporate boxes around, we feature a world class media centre with bespoke viewing and studio areas included in the build welcoming all the big media players to a 'state of the art' facility It's not for that, it's for my personal box after I win the big one on the lottery, I'll fund the corner myself if needs be  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 13:45:50 GMT
I reckon Coates should knock the corner down between the Boothen and the Novus Stand. |
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Post by kustokie on Apr 7, 2015 13:52:43 GMT
So exactly where is multistory car park with walkways to the stadium going. Just asking.  |
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