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Post by coates on Mar 19, 2015 0:39:57 GMT
considering his european goalscoring record ronaldo must be awful, i mean he has only scored more than raul what a donkey. What are you blabbering on about? Nobody is saying he's a donkey are they? if he is a donkey he is a fine breed
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Post by Gods on Mar 19, 2015 0:56:23 GMT
I would say Ronaldo is an astonishing athlete, the finest ever to lace a pair of football boots, but Messi is more of a footballers footballer.
They are both incredible players in their different ways but if I was having a kick about with my mates in the street and I had captains first pick I'd go for Messi, there is just more football in him and if you take away the physicality as you do in a kick around, its pure football, then he comes out on top for me.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 19, 2015 1:37:46 GMT
It's never going to happen but it would be great to see him in the Prem Cold night in stoke?
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Post by metalhead on Mar 19, 2015 1:39:39 GMT
Messi vs Sidibe. I think Mama just about has the edge, but its awfully close. Is your only material ripping into ex stoke players? Perhaps fuck off to vale?
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Post by mf37 on Mar 19, 2015 1:44:52 GMT
What the fuck is Toure doing? Against nippy footballers he is showed up for the oaf of a flat track bully he is. City are crying out for a Modric type in there. Modric v Rakitic on the weekend. Croatian teammates facing one another in El Classico, lots of interesting subplots there
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Post by tijuanabrass on Mar 19, 2015 3:50:14 GMT
Isn't he supposed to be a bit unsettled at Barca? maybe Citeh could afford to put a cheeky bid in for him in the summer. As much as I'd hate them to have that advantage, it would be wonderful to see how a player of his calibre would handle the week in/ week out rigours of the Premier league.
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Post by britsabroad on Mar 19, 2015 3:54:27 GMT
City look devoid of ideas. What's happened to Yaya 'The Beast' Toure? Having no influence whatsoever. Messi, he's just a shit Bojan. :-) The reason Toure bosses the Premier League, the reason he failed at Barcelona, and the reason English clubs are failing in Europe are all largely the same.
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Post by britsabroad on Mar 19, 2015 4:01:54 GMT
There's actually people on here who claim Barcelona are boring and Messi is overated ( last World Cup threads ) Jesus wept Lets be honest now... there were people questioning, rightly, if he was overrated, given that he was being rated as the best player there has ever been. He is the best player right now, but not ever.
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Post by Waggy on Mar 19, 2015 6:32:32 GMT
Messi gets up after been fouled. Ronaldo roles around demanding yellow cards. So with that in mind messi wins
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Post by dexta on Mar 19, 2015 7:18:17 GMT
Messi made James Milner famous
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Post by kerouac on Mar 19, 2015 7:58:46 GMT
Ronaldo,first and foremost, is a cunt.An amazing player but an egotistical,stroppy,cheating,childlike cunt. Messi is a genius and like someone said earlier,he's a footballers footballer.Apparently he doesn't say a word during a match to anyone.....which makes me admire him all the more.
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Post by RAF on Mar 19, 2015 8:09:11 GMT
Ronaldo,first and foremost, is a cunt.An amazing player but an egotistical,stroppy,cheating,childlike cunt. Messi is a genius and like someone said earlier,he's a footballers footballer.Apparently he doesn't say a word during a match to anyone.....which makes me admire him all the more. It's quite amazing that those attributes (cunt aside) that you list as something abhorrent about a player pretty much describe Ricardo Fuller as well, and no one complained much about him. Ronaldo is the most complete player in the world, probably not quite as tricky on the ground as Messi but he dominates in the air, where Messi has next to nothing. Now that is a fucking fact! H
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Post by sage on Mar 19, 2015 8:21:21 GMT
Ronaldo,first and foremost, is a cunt.An amazing player but an egotistical,stroppy,cheating,childlike cunt. Messi is a genius and like someone said earlier,he's a footballers footballer.Apparently he doesn't say a word during a match to anyone.....which makes me admire him all the more. This is why I will never ever be able to like Ronaldo. The fact he played for the Shit doesn't help either (then moved to the most soulless club in the world that isn't owned by an oil nation's tourist board...)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 8:40:57 GMT
Different players that can't really be compared properly because both could easily play in the same side and one wouldn't replace the other.
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Post by kerouac on Mar 19, 2015 9:32:41 GMT
Ronaldo,first and foremost, is a cunt.An amazing player but an egotistical,stroppy,cheating,childlike cunt. Messi is a genius and like someone said earlier,he's a footballers footballer.Apparently he doesn't say a word during a match to anyone.....which makes me admire him all the more. It's quite amazing that those attributes (cunt aside) that you list as something abhorrent about a player pretty much describe Ricardo Fuller as well, and no one complained much about him. Ronaldo is the most complete player in the world, probably not quite as tricky on the ground as Messi but he dominates in the air, where Messi has next to nothing. Now that is a fucking fact! H I don't remember Fuller blatantly diving as much as him, nor did he give a smug wink when he successfully got a player sent off on the world stage as far as I recall. He's quicker and stronger in the air I'll give you that but I'd rather watch footage of the little man than that preening cock any day. Let's face it,it's purely a matter of personal taste, but along with Maradona,who I can never forgive for his antics,Ronaldo in my mind is behind Messi simply because there's no wank baggage.He just gets on with it,picks himself up and plays beautiful football.
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Post by moaty on Mar 19, 2015 11:29:10 GMT
I'd love to see wilko nail messi into the stand after messi nutmegs him 5 times.
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Post by coates on Mar 19, 2015 12:00:18 GMT
Messi made James Milner famous didn't suarez nut meg about 5 people a game last season, messi nutmegs James miler of all people and its breaking news.
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Post by RAF on Mar 19, 2015 12:34:05 GMT
It's quite amazing that those attributes (cunt aside) that you list as something abhorrent about a player pretty much describe Ricardo Fuller as well, and no one complained much about him. Ronaldo is the most complete player in the world, probably not quite as tricky on the ground as Messi but he dominates in the air, where Messi has next to nothing. Now that is a fucking fact! H I don't remember Fuller blatantly diving as much as him, nor did he give a smug wink when he successfully got a player sent off on the world stage as far as I recall. He's quicker and stronger in the air I'll give you that but I'd rather watch footage of the little man than that preening cock any day. Let's face it,it's purely a matter of personal taste, but along with Maradona,who I can never forgive for his antics,Ronaldo in my mind is behind Messi simply because there's no wank baggage.He just gets on with it,picks himself up and plays beautiful football. Well the video below says differently and add spitting at people to the bargain for the Argentinian. H
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 12:59:21 GMT
Ronaldo,first and foremost, is a cunt.An amazing player but an egotistical,stroppy,cheating,childlike cunt. Messi is a genius and like someone said earlier,he's a footballers footballer.Apparently he doesn't say a word during a match to anyone.....which makes me admire him all the more. always got to admire a man who got off 1 tax evasion charge and is now being investigated for taking payments of up to $100k for appearing in charity matches to benefit homeless children....what a top guy! i'd say that Ronaldo diving and rolling around is pretty much small change in comparison
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Post by dexta on Mar 19, 2015 13:30:52 GMT
Messi made James Milner famous didn't suarez nut meg about 5 people a game last season, messi nutmegs James miler of all people and its breaking news. what's up with you..you on the blob
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 13:40:39 GMT
Messi is one fantastic player. No doubt about it! Seems to just get on with it, even after being fouled.
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Post by coates on Mar 19, 2015 15:18:02 GMT
didn't suarez nut meg about 5 people a game last season, messi nutmegs James miler of all people and its breaking news. what's up with you..you on the blob No but the media reaction to messi nutmegging james milner is way over the top, like i said suarez did it endless times last season don't see fuss.
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Post by Waggy on Mar 19, 2015 17:26:59 GMT
Never going to settle the ronaldo / messi debate i prefer messi my good friend Trevor says theres something sbout ronaldo that gets him going. Messi has plenty of years ahead remember to get more records
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 19, 2015 17:45:26 GMT
Messi is a great player but in a tostpot league where the top two win every week. If he plied his trade in the Bundesliga or the Prem I'd think he would be the best player ever but his reluctance to enter to the fray in the better defensive leagues leaves it wondering. Where Ronaldo is the more complete player and has carried his own in two different styles of leagues. For me Barcelona's style masks Messi's ability. Watching him in the world cup he was nowhere as effective as in La Liga where Ronaldo ran portugal and made them somewhat relevant. It's a difference in style and positions. Messi has no aerial game either, keep the ball at chest height and drive it his effectiveness diminishes quickly as the Germans showed how it's done. I want Messi to come to the Prem or Bundesliga but he won't... he likes the safety of tikki taka.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 19, 2015 21:32:54 GMT
There's actually people on here who claim Barcelona are boring and Messi is overated ( last World Cup threads ) Jesus wept Messi overrated. Ronaldo overrated. Whitehead legend.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 22:23:01 GMT
Ronaldo is like Nadal and messi is like federer. Federer is the best player.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 19, 2015 22:45:05 GMT
They are both superb. Messi was outstanding last night. So much so, that my little lad rewound several instances of Messi play so as to watch them over and over again.
When mummy said it was bed time, so good was Messi, I let him stay up to watch the whole performance even though it was a school night.
Messi and Ronaldo are two of the best players ever to have played the game. Both totally different players yet almost equally brilliant.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 19, 2015 22:49:00 GMT
They are both superb. Messi was outstanding last night. So much so, that my little lad rewound several instances of Messi play so as to watch them over and over again. When mummy said it was bed time, so good was Messi, I let him stay up to watch the whole performance even though it was a school night. Messi and Ronaldo are two of the best players ever to have played the game. Both totally different players yet almost equally brilliant. Nailed it.
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Post by jstoke7 on Mar 20, 2015 14:54:12 GMT
I don't understand how Messi isn't a complete player yet Ronaldo is just because he is dangerous in the air...
Surely it should be argued Ronaldo is much less of a complete player (?), he's (IMO) leagues behind Messi in terms of decision making, passing, vision.
Since when has heading/strength become more important than passing and creativity :/
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Post by RAF on Mar 20, 2015 15:30:25 GMT
I don't understand how Messi isn't a complete player yet Ronaldo is just because he is dangerous in the air... Surely it should be argued Ronaldo is much less of a complete player (?), he's (IMO) leagues behind Messi in terms of decision making, passing, vision. Since when has heading/strength become more important than passing and creativity :/ It's fairly obvious why you don't understand when you read your opinion about Messi being leagues in front of Ronaldo in terms of decision making etc. IMO I don't think he is , he probably edges it JUST on his control on the ground, but for me in every other area Ronaldo is either on par or better than Messi, particularly in the air, which as a forward is one of the most important traits, IMHO obviously. Like it has been posted above, this debate won't ever be solved or put to bed. They are both fucking brilliant players though, regardless of who you personally think is best. H
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