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Post by stevieb on Mar 14, 2015 21:48:18 GMT
Let me ask you, did it personally effect you? Impede you from watching the game? Did it effect you like that? Would understand why people would be moaning if it did but they aren't doing anything so no need for topics like this on here it's getting boring now reading same old ramming it down people throats Yes it did personally effect me you knob, I was on the concourse having a brew (I couldn't drink lager because that wasn't on sale because of the behaviour of window lickers like you at previous Stoke away games )when some stupid prick set the damn thing off I hate the smell of them and got the red dye of it on my jeans so yes it did effect.
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 14, 2015 21:50:21 GMT
Least the people on here actually got it right that it was a smoke bomb and not a flare. Stop moaning, that's not the reason we don't get more allocation at all. The allocation wasn't effected, stop moaning about it all. It doesn't effect you, it doesn't effect the view of the game. Has anyone been injured while one has been let off? No. Bit of fun for people. NO PYRO NO PARTYYYYYYYYYY I'm afraid I completely disagree with this view. This is a blog written by FSF caseworker Amanda Jacks on the issue. Amanda spends her time advising and helping fans who are arrested or ejected at games. I don't want her to have to explain to any Stoke fans that she can't do anything about the banning order and/or club ban they have been given for letting one off. www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/pyro-banning-orders-criminal-record-and-clampdowns-on-fans-is-it-worth-itYou are simply wrong to say that no-one has been injured by a smoke bomb being let off. You are also wrong to say that it doesn't affect other people. It can certainly seriously affect those with breathing or asthmatic problems, and those with sensitive eyes if they are close enough. They also stink and make people's clothes smell. They can also stop you seeing the game. You are also wrong to say that they won't affect allocations. We have now had them at 4 games in recent weeks, and if this reputation continues, it could well affect allocations. It could also effect the level of searching on entry which affects everyone. I think you are also wrong to say that pyros were used by stoke fans of previous generations. On the contrary they are a relatively recent import from abroad, and have not been part of the traditional football culture in this country. Setting them off is essentially a selfish act which shows no respect to fellow Stokies who might be affected. It is also highly risky in personal terms, because if identified you are very likely to get a criminal conviction and a banning order. Once again Malcolm showing why he has respect from most sensible people.
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Post by block22stokie on Mar 14, 2015 21:52:17 GMT
Let me ask you, did it personally effect you? Impede you from watching the game? Did it effect you like that? Would understand why people would be moaning if it did but they aren't doing anything so no need for topics like this on here it's getting boring now reading same old ramming it down people throats Yes it did personally effect me you knob, I was on the concourse having a brew (I couldn't drink lager because that wasn't on sale because of the behaviour of window lickers like you at previous Stoke away games )when some stupid prick set the damn thing off I hate the smell of them and got the red dye of it on my jeans so yes it did effect. I don't think the smoke bombs are the problem for not selling beer because villa haven't sold beer everytime I've been
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Mar 14, 2015 21:53:27 GMT
Yes it did personally effect me you knob, I was on the concourse having a brew (I couldn't drink lager because that wasn't on sale because of the behaviour of window lickers like you at previous Stoke away games )when some stupid prick set the damn thing off I hate the smell of them and got the red dye of it on my jeans so yes it did effect. I don't think the smoke bombs are the problem for not selling beer because villa haven't sold beer everytime I've been Are you sure you don't sit in block 19?
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Post by block22stokie on Mar 14, 2015 21:55:35 GMT
I don't think the smoke bombs are the problem for not selling beer because villa haven't sold beer everytime I've been Are you sure you don't sit in block 19? Yes I'm sure I don't sit there
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Post by bmstoke on Mar 14, 2015 21:55:54 GMT
There's no point in threads like this.
The dirty little chavs think they've got the right do whatever they want,whenever they want. No amount of reasoning will ever work because they have no respect for anyone except their retarded baseball cap wearing selves.
We should have a season when we can cull the fuckers.
Leave the badgers alone and cull the chavs.
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Post by march4 on Mar 14, 2015 21:56:22 GMT
Life ban for the perpetrator if I was in charge.
In fact if I was in charge I'd force those guilty to watch the Vale every week for the rest of their lives.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 21:57:49 GMT
Wouldn't say I support them no. However, they do not annoy me or anything like that either. I suppose you throw beer up in the air as well? He's only 12!! What you take our fans for mate
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Mar 14, 2015 21:58:27 GMT
There's no point in threads like this. The dirty little chavs think they've got the right do whatever they want,whenever they want. No amount of reasoning will ever work because they have no respect for anyone except their retarded baseball cap wearing selves. We should have a season when we can cull the fuckers. Leave the badgers alone and cull the chavs. Sign me up mate i'm all for that
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Mar 14, 2015 21:59:51 GMT
I suppose you throw beer up in the air as well? He's only 12!! What you take our fans for mate Some of these fuckers never cease to amaze me with their stupidness mate
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Post by mrred on Mar 14, 2015 21:59:46 GMT
Least the people on here actually got it right that it was a smoke bomb and not a flare. Stop moaning, that's not the reason we don't get more allocation at all. The allocation wasn't effected, stop moaning about it all. It doesn't effect you, it doesn't effect the view of the game. Has anyone been injured while one has been let off? No. Bit of fun for people. NO PYRO NO PARTYYYYYYYYYY I'm afraid I completely disagree with this view. This is a blog written by FSF caseworker Amanda Jacks on the issue. Amanda spends her time advising and helping fans who are arrested or ejected at games. I don't want her to have to explain to any Stoke fans that she can't do anything about the banning order and/or club ban they have been given for letting one off. www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/pyro-banning-orders-criminal-record-and-clampdowns-on-fans-is-it-worth-itYou are simply wrong to say that no-one has been injured by a smoke bomb being let off. You are also wrong to say that it doesn't affect other people. It can certainly seriously affect those with breathing or asthmatic problems, and those with sensitive eyes if they are close enough. They also stink and make people's clothes smell. They can also stop you seeing the game. You are also wrong to say that they won't affect allocations. We have now had them at 4 games in recent weeks, and if this reputation continues, it could well affect allocations. It could also effect the level of searching on entry which affects everyone. I think you are also wrong to say that pyros were used by stoke fans of previous generations. On the contrary they are a relatively recent import from abroad, and have not been part of the traditional football culture in this country. Setting them off is essentially a selfish act which shows no respect to fellow Stokies who might be affected. It is also highly risky in personal terms, because if identified you are very likely to get a criminal conviction and a banning order. I wouldn't waste your time mate. Reasoned advice is wasted on he and other easily excitable pricks.
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Post by stevieb on Mar 14, 2015 22:00:36 GMT
Yes it did personally effect me you knob, I was on the concourse having a brew (I couldn't drink lager because that wasn't on sale because of the behaviour of window lickers like you at previous Stoke away games )when some stupid prick set the damn thing off I hate the smell of them and got the red dye of it on my jeans so yes it did effect. I don't think the smoke bombs are the problem for not selling beer because villa haven't sold beer everytime I've been I realise that it isn't smoke bombs that have meant no ale being sold to Stokies, it's general knobish behaviour that has done that and smoke bombs are a part of it, I have no doubt I wont be able to have a pint at Burnley either because of some self styled green street throwbacks behaving like Ill educated morons at Blackburn, half of these dicks would run a mile if it came to actually having to fight ( or I should say waddle a mile having seen the state of em).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 22:01:08 GMT
He's only 12!! What you take our fans for mate Some of these fuckers never cease to amaze me with their stupidness mate Totally agree bud
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Post by block22stokie on Mar 14, 2015 22:05:24 GMT
I don't think the smoke bombs are the problem for not selling beer because villa haven't sold beer everytime I've been I realise that it isn't smoke bombs that have meant no ale being sold to Stokies, it's general knobish behaviour that has done that and smoke bombs are a part of it, I have no doubt I wont be able to have a pint at Burnley either because of some self styled green street throwbacks behaving like Ill educated morons at Blackburn, half of these dicks would run a mile if it came to actually having to fight ( or I should say waddle a mile having seen the state of em). You get 'knobbish' behaviour at every club, so how do you know you won't get a beer at burnley? There could a complete idiot who supports another team who may cause burnley to stop serving it
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 14, 2015 22:06:58 GMT
And the some of our so called supporters showed it was the right decision! I really can't understand why some of us need to support these morons! I don't mind the smoke bombs, you don't like them. But just because you don't like them doesn't mean others don't, they're trying to add to the atmosphere Sure!
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Post by bmstoke on Mar 14, 2015 22:09:56 GMT
I don't mind the smoke bombs, you don't like them. But just because you don't like them doesn't mean others don't, they're trying to add to the atmosphere Sure! No point knocking when nobodies home.
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Post by stevieb on Mar 14, 2015 22:11:40 GMT
I realise that it isn't smoke bombs that have meant no ale being sold to Stokies, it's general knobish behaviour that has done that and smoke bombs are a part of it, I have no doubt I wont be able to have a pint at Burnley either because of some self styled green street throwbacks behaving like Ill educated morons at Blackburn, half of these dicks would run a mile if it came to actually having to fight ( or I should say waddle a mile having seen the state of em). You get 'knobbish' behaviour at every club, so how do you know you won't get a beer at burnley? There could a complete idiot who supports another team who may cause burnley to stop serving it Same police force as Blackburn (Lancs)they won't want to get stung twice with a 4500 allocation and pissed up idiots who don't realise their actions have a consequence.
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Post by owdestokie on Mar 14, 2015 22:24:09 GMT
Don't beat about the bush. Do you support such actions or not? If not I'll apologise. Nail your colours to the mast Wouldn't say I support them no. However, they do not annoy me or anything like that either. IMHO your answer would not be supported by a very high percentage of supporters of SCFC and they would willingly support the idea of you and similar thinking (sorry about using the word thinking) individuals being banned from the Brit and having any access to away ticket allocation. IMHO you and others like you do not, and never will represent SCFC, it's history, the law abiding supporters or the general community of Stoke on Trent.....shame on you
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 14, 2015 22:32:58 GMT
I'm afraid I completely disagree with this view. This is a blog written by FSF caseworker Amanda Jacks on the issue. Amanda spends her time advising and helping fans who are arrested or ejected at games. I don't want her to have to explain to any Stoke fans that she can't do anything about the banning order and/or club ban they have been given for letting one off. www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/pyro-banning-orders-criminal-record-and-clampdowns-on-fans-is-it-worth-itYou are simply wrong to say that no-one has been injured by a smoke bomb being let off. You are also wrong to say that it doesn't affect other people. It can certainly seriously affect those with breathing or asthmatic problems, and those with sensitive eyes if they are close enough. They also stink and make people's clothes smell. They can also stop you seeing the game. You are also wrong to say that they won't affect allocations. We have now had them at 4 games in recent weeks, and if this reputation continues, it could well affect allocations. It could also effect the level of searching on entry which affects everyone. I think you are also wrong to say that pyros were used by stoke fans of previous generations. On the contrary they are a relatively recent import from abroad, and have not been part of the traditional football culture in this country. Setting them off is essentially a selfish act which shows no respect to fellow Stokies who might be affected. It is also highly risky in personal terms, because if identified you are very likely to get a criminal conviction and a banning order. I wouldn't waste your time mate. Reasoned advice is wasted on he and other easily excitable pricks. You may well be right, mrred, but I'm an incurable optimist. if I could stop just one stokie spoiling someone else's afternoon and getting themselves a banning order in the process, it would be worth it.
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 14, 2015 22:45:12 GMT
Wouldn't say I support them no. However, they do not annoy me or anything like that either. IMHO your answer would not be supported by a very high percentage of supporters of SCFC and they would willingly support the idea of you and similar thinking (sorry about using the word thinking) individuals being banned from the Brit and having any access to away ticket allocation. IMHO you and others like you do not, and never will represent SCFC, it's history, the law abiding supporters or the general community of Stoke on Trent.....sham e on you Come on Owd, We is talking Stoke here. We did the industrial reverlution before most knew it was happening, (My family didnt enter Stoke till the 2nd tranche in the 19th cent. You may want your fans to be more like Arsenal but they're not. I'm not saying that Stoke fans should all go round letting of smoke bombs, but I would die if we became W@#k
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Post by stantheman on Mar 14, 2015 22:47:53 GMT
There was a very nice springer spaniel sniffer dog outside the away turnstiles. I asked the lady handler what the dog was for and she said it was pyrotechnics Need more dogs!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 22:54:09 GMT
There was a very nice springer spaniel sniffer dog outside the away turnstiles. I asked the lady handler what the dog was for and she said it was pyrotechnics Need more dogs! Did the dog have a fuse hanging out of its arse then?
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Post by owdestokie on Mar 14, 2015 22:56:33 GMT
IMHO your answer would not be supported by a very high percentage of supporters of SCFC and they would willingly support the idea of you and similar thinking (sorry about using the word thinking) individuals being banned from the Brit and having any access to away ticket allocation. IMHO you and others like you do not, and never will represent SCFC, it's history, the law abiding supporters or the general community of Stoke on Trent.....sham e on you Come on Owd, We is talking Stoke here. We did the industrial reverlution before most knew it was happening, (My family didnt enter Stoke till the 2nd tranche in the 19th cent. You may want your fans to be more like Arsenal but they're not. I'm not saying that Stoke fans should all go round letting of smoke bombs, but I would die if we became W@#k Pre industrial revolution Stokies were probably more eloquent than your indescribale response. I like many others are proud to be a Stokie and cringe at some individuals who tarnish the name of SCFC and responsible supporters by their childish and selfish behaviour.
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Post by boothenender on Mar 15, 2015 9:08:10 GMT
I can remember going to Goodison Park years a go... A green smoke bomb/ flare was throw in to the Everton section by a Stoke fan... Smoke was belching out of their Paddock.. Following day there was a photo in the national papers saying "It's back again" meaning football fans misbehaving. Some poor little Scouse kid hanging on the fence with smoke all around him,the kid was petrified. Things don't change much in footbal. Don't mind flares etc going off, but keep them away from kids... It's much worsecoutside of Stadium when everyone starts to light up their bloody fags.. .
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 15, 2015 9:24:00 GMT
Strikes me
1) the majority (me included) of fans don't want them. 2) the clubs don't want them. 3) they're pointless and potentially dangerous
So why bring them into games. No doubt the people that take them in are those that spend the full 90 mins abusing the opposition fans rather than watching the game and then blaming the stewards and police if people start getting ejected for doing "nothing" What wrong with just following a few rules to make the majority's day an enjoyable and safe experience.
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Post by callas12 on Mar 15, 2015 9:35:56 GMT
Sums it up nicely Cobham. Makes me laugh how the smoke canister instigators are big hard lads bringing them into the ground but run like kids once they've cracked it open! Scared of getting caught by the authorities and also of facing the wrath of the majority of supporters who get blighted by its foul stench Im guessing. Real big of them that. If their so proud of their actions, why not stand there holding it aloft and wave it around so everyone can see you instead of pinging it around into crowds so everyone has to suffer.
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Post by Stokeontrent on Mar 15, 2015 9:36:48 GMT
Known to be used by lads who dont like trouble but want to act the big man.
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 15, 2015 10:06:08 GMT
Known to be used by lads who dont like trouble but want to act the big man. this x 1000.....theyre all 'dead ard' when theyre in a group. On their own they start blubbing Theres a few on this very thread I pity them
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Mar 15, 2015 11:01:40 GMT
Why don't people stood next to these tools just go over to the stewards and or police point them out. Problem over.
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Post by moaty on Mar 15, 2015 12:30:14 GMT
Fucking hell muttley, you love a good moan about a smoke bomb. Give it a rest
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