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Post by potterspele on Feb 3, 2015 21:30:14 GMT
Begovic is top class and has not at all had a poor season. At worst you could say he's made a couple of mistakes. Last season he had many more saves to make.
He's still got 10+ years ahead and he's only going to improve. Sign him up asap.
It's a shame for Butland but he's not going to get ahead of Begovic because he's not as good. Maybe he will be one day but why take that chance when you've got a top class goalie already.
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Post by murphthesurf on Feb 3, 2015 21:48:57 GMT
Begovic is top class and has not at all had a poor season. At worst you could say he's made a couple of mistakes. Last season he had many more saves to make. He's still got 10+ years ahead and he's only going to improve. Sign him up asap. It's a shame for Butland but he's not going to get ahead of Begovic because he's not as good. Maybe he will be one day but why take that chance when you've got a top class goalie already. Perfectly put on every point - couldn't agree more. Bego is a huge part of our success, and long may it all continue.
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Post by 2004 on Feb 3, 2015 21:49:31 GMT
He has had a poor season so far but hopefully he will regain his form soon. I think he's been much better in the last 6-8 games, re established that commanding presence he has. I would agree that he has been better lately but I still shit myself whenever there is a shot or a cross coming in.
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 3, 2015 22:05:50 GMT
Offer him a new contract, we need him here, sadly as good a prospect as Butland is he's a prospect and Begovic is proven. We need to release Sorenson in the summer and keep Butland as number 2 to play in cup matches and league games, drop Begovic if need be to create healthy compitition. Begovic is perhaps becoming a bit complacent, a drop to the bench for a few games might see him return to his better form. I don't beleive in this "getting complacent" stuff. Do you honestly believe that Asmir will deliberately not try his best to save a shot because he knows that he is number 1? I am firmly in the camp now that if he doesn't sign a new contract befor the summer and a club offer between £10 million and £15 million I would snap their hand off as we could lose him for nothing next year and if needs be, we have a more than able number 1 in Butland eager to make the step up. Asmir is an absolutely brilliant goalkeeper and I beleive still one of the best in the league but at this time that we are trying to balance the books, it could be one of the big chances to recoup some of the money pissed up the wall over the past few years!
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Post by 2004 on Feb 3, 2015 22:14:06 GMT
Begovic is top class and has not at all had a poor season. At worst you could say he's made a couple of mistakes. Last season he had many more saves to make. He's still got 10+ years ahead and he's only going to improve. Sign him up asap. It's a shame for Butland but he's not going to get ahead of Begovic because he's not as good. Maybe he will be one day but why take that chance when you've got a top class goalie already. I love Asmir but he has made a lot more than a couple of mistakes leading to goals this season.
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Post by AlliG on Feb 3, 2015 22:16:35 GMT
I think he's been much better in the last 6-8 games, re established that commanding presence he has. I would agree that he has been better lately but I still shit myself whenever there is a shot or a cross coming in. It makes me wonder how some of our fans dare get out of bed in the morning if they really feel like that about Asmir. The world really must be a truly scary and frightening place for some.
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Post by 2004 on Feb 3, 2015 22:20:51 GMT
I would agree that he has been better lately but I still shit myself whenever there is a shot or a cross coming in. It makes me wonder how some of our fans dare get out of bed in the morning if they really feel like that about Asmir. The world really must be a truly scary and frightening place for some. Thanks
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 3, 2015 22:25:45 GMT
I think he will leave on a Bosman next summer
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 3, 2015 22:27:29 GMT
Begovic has not had a 'poor' season! He has by his own high standards. That's saying a very different thing, and I still disagree that "poor" is an appropriate adjective. He's been slightly under par in a few games but I'd still take him on this season's form over 3/4 of the other Prem goalies.
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Post by viewfrominside on Feb 3, 2015 22:42:34 GMT
Offer him a new contract, we need him here, sadly as good a prospect as Butland is he's a prospect and Begovic is proven. We need to release Sorenson in the summer and keep Butland as number 2 to play in cup matches and league games, drop Begovic if need be to create healthy compitition. Begovic is perhaps becoming a bit complacent, a drop to the bench for a few games might see him return to his better form. I don't beleive in this "getting complacent" stuff. Do you honestly believe that Asmir will deliberately not try his best to save a shot because he knows that he is number 1? I am firmly in the camp now that if he doesn't sign a new contract befor the summer and a club offer between £10 million and £15 million I would snap their hand off as we could lose him for nothing next year and if needs be, we have a more than able number 1 in Butland eager to make the step up. Asmir is an absolutely brilliant goalkeeper and I beleive still one of the best in the league but at this time that we are trying to balance the books, it could be one of the big chances to recoup some of the money pissed up the wall over the past few years! Not saying he wouldn't try to save the shot but Butland doesn't get a go if Asmir's form dips,that can't be good for either keeper surely.
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 3, 2015 23:28:46 GMT
I don't beleive in this "getting complacent" stuff. Do you honestly believe that Asmir will deliberately not try his best to save a shot because he knows that he is number 1? I am firmly in the camp now that if he doesn't sign a new contract befor the summer and a club offer between £10 million and £15 million I would snap their hand off as we could lose him for nothing next year and if needs be, we have a more than able number 1 in Butland eager to make the step up. Asmir is an absolutely brilliant goalkeeper and I beleive still one of the best in the league but at this time that we are trying to balance the books, it could be one of the big chances to recoup some of the money pissed up the wall over the past few years! Not saying he wouldn't try to save the shot but Butland doesn't get a go if Asmir's form dips,that can't be good for either keeper surely. I totally agree mate if Asmir's form dips to an unacceptable level then Jack should get his chance, no player is un drop-able imo
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Post by Terrybell on Feb 6, 2015 7:41:30 GMT
Will reveal all on SSN later????
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Post by 2004 on Feb 6, 2015 7:44:00 GMT
FA Cup 2015
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 6, 2015 7:52:22 GMT
Still pissed at loosing monopoly at Christmas!!!
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 6, 2015 7:54:59 GMT
They have just said that he is in no rush to extend his contract!
Was that just because he said that he had 18 months left on his contract and he will look at it "In Time"?
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Post by jeycov on Feb 6, 2015 7:56:22 GMT
FA Cup 2015 Would Hughes select him ? I don't think that he got a medal in 2011 Somewhere else? Putting himself in the "shop window" ?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 6, 2015 8:03:05 GMT
FA Cup 2015 Would Hughes select him ? I don't think that he got a medal in 2011 Somewhere else? You'd have to assume that, if we reach the Cup Final this year that Butland will keep the job for the final unless he is injured or his form had deteriorated significantly. As regards Bego's comments (which are in a few media outlets today) he's becoming a master at saying things which can be interpreted in several ways. he's happy at Stoke, he wants to win things, he is in no rush to sign a new contract - plenty of time - 18 months to run etc. etc. I've no idea what he REALLY wants. He certainly isn't rocking the boat for a transfer but, personally, if I were the club I would not want to go into the last 12 months of his contract without him signing a new deal. For me he either HAS to sign a new contract before the start of next season or we HAVE to sell him for a decent fee. No other scenario represents a good deal for the club.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 8:03:10 GMT
Here we go. The end game is in sight and it's all about what we can get for him now.
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Post by 2004 on Feb 6, 2015 8:20:49 GMT
FA Cup 2015 Would Hughes select him ? I don't think that he got a medal in 2011 Somewhere else? Putting himself in the "shop window" ? Good point. I think he would play Butland all the way though.
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 6, 2015 8:39:23 GMT
If we get to that stage Hughes will select a team that he thinks will win. He has 3 winners medals and a runners up medal but has never managed a team in the cup final. Doubt he would allow sentiment to ruin his chances. I for one would agree with him, anyway those on the bench would be provided with medals.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 6, 2015 8:43:28 GMT
If we get to that stage Hughes will select a team that he thinks will win. He has 3 winners medals and a runners up medal but has never managed a team in the cup final. Doubt he would allow sentiment to ruin his chances. I for one would agree with him, anyway those on the bench would be provided with medals. I agree, I don't believe that Bego made the bench for the 2011 final? however
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Post by Davef on Feb 6, 2015 8:49:15 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 6, 2015 9:01:23 GMT
If we get to that stage Hughes will select a team that he thinks will win. He has 3 winners medals and a runners up medal but has never managed a team in the cup final. Doubt he would allow sentiment to ruin his chances. I for one would agree with him, anyway those on the bench would be provided with medals. I agree, I don't believe that Bego made the bench for the 2011 final? however You are right but the FA provide 30 medals for each club so Butland and Soro would get a medal. I would hope that every player who had played in a round would also get one. I believe the club can buy additional ones anyway. Let's get there first, two wins away from Wembley and three from the final. Happy days even contemplating it.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Feb 6, 2015 14:18:15 GMT
"ive got 18 months left here" i dont think he'll sign personally
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 6, 2015 14:24:05 GMT
Would Hughes select him ? I don't think that he got a medal in 2011 Somewhere else? You'd have to assume that, if we reach the Cup Final this year that Butland will keep the job for the final unless he is injured or his form had deteriorated significantly. As regards Bego's comments (which are in a few media outlets today) he's becoming a master at saying things which can be interpreted in several ways. he's happy at Stoke, he wants to win things, he is in no rush to sign a new contract - plenty of time - 18 months to run etc. etc. I've no idea what he REALLY wants. He certainly isn't rocking the boat for a transfer but, personally, if I were the club I would not want to go into the last 12 months of his contract without him signing a new deal. For me he either HAS to sign a new contract before the start of next season or we HAVE to sell him for a decent fee. No other scenario represents a good deal for the club. I agree with that. He is worth £12-15m and to let that sort of asset go for nothing would be massive mismanagement of our resources. He either signs a new contract before August 2015 or he moves on and we give Jack Butland his big chance - simple.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 6, 2015 14:36:15 GMT
You'd have to assume that, if we reach the Cup Final this year that Butland will keep the job for the final unless he is injured or his form had deteriorated significantly. As regards Bego's comments (which are in a few media outlets today) he's becoming a master at saying things which can be interpreted in several ways. he's happy at Stoke, he wants to win things, he is in no rush to sign a new contract - plenty of time - 18 months to run etc. etc. I've no idea what he REALLY wants. He certainly isn't rocking the boat for a transfer but, personally, if I were the club I would not want to go into the last 12 months of his contract without him signing a new deal. For me he either HAS to sign a new contract before the start of next season or we HAVE to sell him for a decent fee. No other scenario represents a good deal for the club. I agree with that. He is worth £12-15m and to let that sort of asset go for nothing would be massive mismanagement of our resources. He either signs a new contract before August 2015 or he moves on and we give Jack Butland his big chance - simple. That seems the best idea. But suppose that assumes that he'll attract a bidder at £10m+ over the summer from one of the handful (at most) of teams who: can offer him the next level, sporting-wise AND next level cash AND need a No.1 keeper AND decide on him. And don't suppose that's a given, especially when bidders (and Begovic himself) will know he'll be available for nowt next summer (or next to nowt in January 2016) and he'll be in line for a bumper Bosman contract.
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Post by agingerstokie on Feb 6, 2015 14:37:11 GMT
I personally got a negative view from reading that article. He does not seem like he is interested in a new deal and this summer is suddenly a very big deal in terms of our goalkeepers. Make or break for Butland if Bego leaves and then would another of the talented GKs in our ranks step up to no.2 or would we sign someone else as Sorensen is surely past it.
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 6, 2015 15:31:54 GMT
I personally got a negative view from reading that article. He does not seem like he is interested in a new deal and this summer is suddenly a very big deal in terms of our goalkeepers. Make or break for Butland if Bego leaves and then would another of the talented GKs in our ranks step up to no.2 or would we sign someone else as Sorensen is surely past it. Everyone would move up one spot - so Butland is no.1, Bachmann is no.2 and Dale Eve is the under-21 keeper.
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Post by agingerstokie on Feb 7, 2015 9:36:19 GMT
Mark Hughes has stated that he plans to hold contract talks with Stoke City goalkeeper Asmir Begovic in the summer.
The Bosnian international is about to enter the last year of his deal but his manager believes he is open to extending his five-year stay at the club.
Hughes said: "Summer is the time to discuss these things. We'll sit down and see what we can do with it - Asmir's a big part of what we're doing here."
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Post by Davef on Feb 7, 2015 10:29:58 GMT
I really don't see how you can get a negative view from that interview. I think some have just made up their own mind that Asmir's not going to sign and that's that.
There was absolutely nothing in his body language during the interview that suggests he's anything but happy at Stoke.
Time will tell of course, but Ryan Shawcross had no problem signing a long contract not so long ago and there's no reason to believe Asmir won't do the same.
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