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Post by shrewspotter on Feb 3, 2015 15:52:28 GMT
Daniel Levy doesn't sell anyone unless
a) he gets top whack for them b) He thinks they are past they're best
Spurs aren't the greatest at getting players in, but selling, they are a league of their own!
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Post by ************** on Feb 3, 2015 15:58:14 GMT
What I don't understand is how did Wilson Palacios pass a medical at Stoke but Demba Ba failed one? Never right. I think there was more to the Ba deal than just an exploding knee. His agent was playing silly buggers. But the whole Palacios saga sits very uncomfortably with me, because at one point, sheesh could that boy play football and boss a midfield. I still cant help thinking what might have been.
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Post by baystokie on Feb 3, 2015 16:26:58 GMT
He's a fucking idle leach. If he really wanted to play football I'm sure we'd have heard noise about him wanting to go out on loan. As it is, it's much easier to sit on his fat arse and pick up the easiest fortune anyone will ever earn. I'll be raising a glass when the shithouse has gone. Be interesting to see if any other clubs bother with him. But then again, stranger things have happened in football. I think that, deep down, he knows his footballing days are over and that it's highly unlikely that ANY club (UK or abroad) will take a gamble on him regaining his previous qualities. If this is so, then he probably feels 'why not see out a contract that pays your bills until such time as I HAVE to join that nasty, wicked, cold world that exists outside of football'. I'm sure that many of us would react similarly if our existing cosy working world was about to be terminated.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 3, 2015 16:33:16 GMT
See out his contract here and then move on to the Middle East or some other such league - it's not a subtle plan and who can blame him. It's the modern game in a nutshell.
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 3, 2015 16:55:47 GMT
It'd be interesting to find a thread and see what we were saying at the time he signed for us.
I remember saying I thought he was a cracking signing and the perfect partner for Nzonzi.
Some need to bear in mind that all our signings are gambles. Some gambles come off, some don't.
But why two managers and two sets of coaches can't get him in shape and fit to play regularly over four years is beyond me.
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Post by lordb on Feb 3, 2015 16:56:36 GMT
It'd be interesting to find a thread and see what we were saying at the time he signed for us. I remember saying I thought he was a cracking signing and the perfect partner for Nzonzi. Some need to bear in mind that all our signings are gambles. Some gambles come off, some don't. But why two managers and two sets of coaches can't get him in shape and fit to play regularly over four years is beyond me. I thought him Kitson were superb signings oops
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Post by ************** on Feb 3, 2015 19:36:24 GMT
It'd be interesting to find a thread and see what we were saying at the time he signed for us. I remember saying I thought he was a cracking signing and the perfect partner for Nzonzi. Some need to bear in mind that all our signings are gambles. Some gambles come off, some don't. But why two managers and two sets of coaches can't get him in shape and fit to play regularly over four years is beyond me. Nobody could spell his name correctly and we were creaming over the thought of him bossing our midfield. I didn't really care about getting Crouchy, we'd just signed Winston fucking Palatious.
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Post by boscfc on Feb 4, 2015 6:34:01 GMT
It'd be interesting to find a thread and see what we were saying at the time he signed for us. I remember saying I thought he was a cracking signing and the perfect partner for Nzonzi. Some need to bear in mind that all our signings are gambles. Some gambles come off, some don't. But why two managers and two sets of coaches can't get him in shape and fit to play regularly over four years is beyond me. I'm pretty sure Palacios was signed before N'Zonzi.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 4, 2015 6:57:48 GMT
It'd be interesting to find a thread and see what we were saying at the time he signed for us. I remember saying I thought he was a cracking signing and the perfect partner for Nzonzi.Some need to bear in mind that all our signings are gambles. Some gambles come off, some don't. But why two managers and two sets of coaches can't get him in shape and fit to play regularly over four years is beyond me. I'm pretty sure Palacios was signed before N'Zonzi. You win a cigar! Both players signed on 31 August - Palacios in 2011 and NZonzi in 2012. Lucky we have an NHS, free at the point of use, to sort out Miles Offside's memory problems!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 4, 2015 7:59:19 GMT
Palacios has cost the club hugely .....if he has been paid the reported £45k a week that's an eye watering near £10m in wages plus £8m transfer fee, chuck in his agents fee you're looking at around £20m. Or £380k for each of his 53 appearances as sub or full game of which there have been very few.
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Post by ************** on Feb 4, 2015 8:20:25 GMT
Palacios has cost the club hugely .....if he has been paid the reported £45k a week that's an eye watering near £10m in wages plus £8m transfer fee, chuck in his agents fee you're looking at around £20m. Or £380k for each of his 53 appearances as sub or full game of which there have been very few. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though LL. It's a horrible amount of money but I think if I sold you a bicycle in the Sentinel small ads, you'd have real recourse when you found out that the frame wasn't actually made of carbon fibre but it was pig iron. This stinks of Daniel Levy offloading muck, and Pulis' blind ambition to capture Crouch. Pulis was stitched up like a kipper.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 4, 2015 8:52:52 GMT
I think a fit Palacios could have been so good for us. He was never short of ability. I think injuries took their toll on his knees and I think he also lost interest after the murder of his brother and for that, I guess I don't blame him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 12:16:20 GMT
I think a fit Palacios could have been so good for us. He was never short of ability. I think injuries took their toll on his knees and I think he also lost interest after the murder of his brother and for that, I guess I don't blame him. If he is not interested, then would that mean it is the player who is not giving his all and his poor fitness is down to himself. If this were true would this be enough reason to sack him.
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Post by nott1 on Feb 4, 2015 12:54:43 GMT
I don't know why the club hasn't paid up his contract as he is costing the club more every minute he stays. He is wearing out the carpet in the club house, wearing out the turf on the training ground. Wearing out the bench seats and his free training gear. Wearing out the coach seats and costing hotel bills and food on away trips. Bugger him off!
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 4, 2015 15:37:39 GMT
I'm pretty sure Palacios was signed before N'Zonzi. You win a cigar! Both players signed on 31 August - Palacios in 2011 and NZonzi in 2012. Lucky we have an NHS, free at the point of use, to sort out Miles Offside's memory problems! Oops! I fear I'm beyond any help that could be offered by the NHS. Pretty sure I did remember the first bit though - me thinking at the time that WP was a cracking signing.
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Post by huddy on Feb 4, 2015 15:55:29 GMT
Everyone went into it with open eyes.Everyone knew Palacios had a knee problem.The medical dept thought they could manage it - a bit like Woodgate.They couldnt.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 4, 2015 16:05:18 GMT
Palacios has cost the club hugely .....if he has been paid the reported £45k a week that's an eye watering near £10m in wages plus £8m transfer fee, chuck in his agents fee you're looking at around £20m. Or £380k for each of his 53 appearances as sub or full game of which there have been very few. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though LL. It's a horrible amount of money but I think if I sold you a bicycle in the Sentinel small ads, you'd have real recourse when you found out that the frame wasn't actually made of carbon fibre but it was pig iron. This stinks of Daniel Levy offloading muck, and Pulis' blind ambition to capture Crouch. Pulis was stitched up like a kipper. As I remember it was all very strange. He had been to the training complex days before the deadline, and the deal was as good as done. But nothing was announced, folk on here got twitchy, but the ITK's continually posted not to worry about the Palacious deal. Then come deadline day Crouch rocked up and stole all the thunder, and sometime after, as an aside, it was confirmed that we had indeed signed Palacious. I don't think he was anywhere near Stoke on deadline day.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 4, 2015 16:07:07 GMT
I think a fit Palacios could have been so good for us. He was never short of ability. I think injuries took their toll on his knees and I think he also lost interest after the murder of his brother and for that, I guess I don't blame him. his knee injury was a long standing problem and his brother was murdered in May 2009 over two years before he joined us. Surely our medics and psychology team should have picked up on any effect this was having or to likely to have on his emotional state and fitness before we forked out £8m for him. As a poster has already stated TP and the back room boys were right royally stitched up by Spurs but could have been avoided if they had done their job. Or was it a case of Levy saying no Palacios no Crouch.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 4, 2015 16:13:44 GMT
I think a fit Palacios could have been so good for us. He was never short of ability. I think injuries took their toll on his knees and I think he also lost interest after the murder of his brother and for that, I guess I don't blame him. his knee injury was a long standing problem and his brother was murdered in May 2009 over two years before he joined us. Surely our medics and psychology team should have picked up on any effect this was having or to likely to have on his emotional state and fitness before we forked out £8m for him. As a poster has already stated TP and the back room boys were right royally stitched up by Spurs but could have been avoided if they had done their job. Or was it a case of Levy saying no Palacios no Crouch. Maybe. We got mugged on Palacios but I still think Crouchy has been worth every penny.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Feb 4, 2015 17:06:53 GMT
It'd be interesting to find a thread and see what we were saying at the time he signed for us. I remember saying I thought he was a cracking signing and the perfect partner for Nzonzi. Some need to bear in mind that all our signings are gambles. Some gambles come off, some don't. But why two managers and two sets of coaches can't get him in shape and fit to play regularly over four years is beyond me. I thought him Kitson were superb signings oops So did I.
Dave Kitson had just had a great season with Reading and was on the fringes of the national team. He came here because he wanted to play every week and be the main man, not be a squad player at another club. If I remember, his family really had problems settling oop Norf, which was a big factor for him.
Palacios had impressed for Spurs in the Champions League and was bought by Spurs for £12m. He is a mystery, because he has shown glimpses of what he can do. He started in Stoke City's stand out performance last season, Villa away. I can only guess that the various injury problems he has had have never allowed him to get fully fit.
Both of those two looked perfect for us, and I'm sure that are many more than me, Lord B and ************** who also thought so at the time, but would maybe rather not admit it because it became a convenient stick with which to beat our previous manager. You win some, you lose some, but it could be argued that non-footballing reasons played a big part in neither of them fulfilling their potential here.
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