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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 1, 2015 0:51:40 GMT
Ok - your ever recurring view. I disagree, I think we are lucky to have him as he fills in so many roles as good as most - hey ho 5th/6th - all down to Wilson? He's not though is he? He's a liability at the heart of the defence, as he kept showing. I think he'd be a good Championship centre half because his mistakes wouldn't get punished as much. He's an ok left back but he's been bloody awful there for Hughes these last few games. And he can't play in central midfield for love nor money, that's not even up for debate. If we sign a young left back there's absolutely no need for him in the squad, we have more than enough. 7 points is to sixth, he's easily cost us that with his calamitous outings at centre back. He is not a liability That is my view
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2015 0:53:56 GMT
He's not though is he? He's a liability at the heart of the defence, as he kept showing. I think he'd be a good Championship centre half because his mistakes wouldn't get punished as much. He's an ok left back but he's been bloody awful there for Hughes these last few games. And he can't play in central midfield for love nor money, that's not even up for debate. If we sign a young left back there's absolutely no need for him in the squad, we have more than enough. 7 points is to sixth, he's easily cost us that with his calamitous outings at centre back. He is not a liability That is my view He is at centre half, he isn't at left back. I suppose you could argue he's a liability going forward at left back though because his left foot is neither use nor ornament. The incident where the whole stadium was bollocking him being the case in point.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 1, 2015 0:59:22 GMT
He is not a liability That is my view He is at centre half, he isn't at left back. I suppose you could argue he's a liability going forward at left back though because his left foot is neither use nor ornament. The incident where the whole stadium was bollocking him being the case in point. Tell that to Sparky who does not seem to hear you We won - against the odds of the usual SCFC Charity day - just enjoy
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2015 1:07:40 GMT
He is at centre half, he isn't at left back. I suppose you could argue he's a liability going forward at left back though because his left foot is neither use nor ornament. The incident where the whole stadium was bollocking him being the case in point. Tell that to Sparky who does not seem to hear you We won - against the odds of the usual SCFC Charity day - just enjoy Erm.................He's dropped him from centre back and we've improved remarkably since (League games before dropping Wilson from CB. P14 W4 D3 L7. After dropping Wilson P9 W5 D2 L2). He's signed another centre back to push him further down the pecking order. And he's being played at left back (his best position and I'd play him there over Muni myself) because we need him to. In fact second choice left back is currently the highest place he is in the squad depth charts!
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 1, 2015 1:11:55 GMT
Tell that to Sparky who does not seem to hear you We won - against the odds of the usual SCFC Charity day - just enjoy Erm.................He's dropped him from centre back and we've improved remarkably since (League games before dropping Wilson from CB. P14 W4 D3 L7. After dropping Wilson P9 W5 D2 L2). He's signed another centre back to push him further down the pecking order. And he's being played at left back (his best position and I'd play him there over Muni myself) because we need him to. In fact second choice left back is currently the highest place he is in the squad depth charts! When he is on the pitch it may be a nice idea to get behind him rather than wait for his first mistake and twitter it to your mates Like he, or the management read your shit
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2015 1:16:21 GMT
Erm.................He's dropped him from centre back and we've improved remarkably since (League games before dropping Wilson from CB. P14 W4 D3 L7. After dropping Wilson P9 W5 D2 L2). He's signed another centre back to push him further down the pecking order. And he's being played at left back (his best position and I'd play him there over Muni myself) because we need him to. In fact second choice left back is currently the highest place he is in the squad depth charts! When he is on the pitch it may be a nice idea to get behind him rather than wait for his first mistake and twitter it to your mates Like he, or the management read your shit Erm............I do. I haven't suggested they do, what are you going on about?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Feb 1, 2015 1:24:53 GMT
I like Wilson about as much as I like Rochdale's playing surface.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 1, 2015 1:31:32 GMT
Erm.................He's dropped him from centre back and we've improved remarkably since (League games before dropping Wilson from CB. P14 W4 D3 L7. After dropping Wilson P9 W5 D2 L2). He's signed another centre back to push him further down the pecking order. And he's being played at left back (his best position and I'd play him there over Muni myself) because we need him to. In fact second choice left back is currently the highest place he is in the squad depth charts! When he is on the pitch it may be a nice idea to get behind him rather than wait for his first mistake and twitter it to your mates Like he, or the management read your shit Making yourself look a bit if a twat here sufolk, wilsons awful and I think we all see it, the guys a liability and has cost us a fair few points this season, as a profesional footballer he truly is shit.
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Post by Simon Drainrod on Feb 1, 2015 7:51:26 GMT
The Brit bollocking him in unison today was a highlight of mine! You mean when he failed to put the cross in second half?
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Post by Simon Drainrod on Feb 1, 2015 7:58:30 GMT
I didn't start this thread as a Wilson-bashing exercise, but as an honest appreciation of muni. Wilson is a god pro. A player's player maybe? I just muni deserves a regular start at CB, or LB if pieters isn't fit.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 1, 2015 8:03:01 GMT
I feel a little sorry for Wilson he's nowhere near as bad as some people make him out to be and has often covered in the most difficult situations (Huths injury last season) and done an admirable job. I think people expect maybe too much and look to blame him for goals even when it's not his fault.
Now I'm not saying we don't need better but he does his best and when you look at our defence were by no means the worst in the division.
Let's not forget people were giving the same sort of stick to Walters when TP was in charge. Now he's a hero.
Oh and our best back 4 when everyone's fit
GCam............Ryan..........Phil..............Eric
I too like Muni and for me he should be first reserve at both LB and CB
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 1, 2015 8:04:14 GMT
I didn't start this thread as a Wilson-bashing exercise, but as an honest appreciation of muni. Wilson is a god pro. A player's player maybe? I just muni deserves a regular start at CB, or LB if pieters isn't fit. Incredible the difference an "o" can make - in this case a missing "o". Surely!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 1, 2015 8:06:51 GMT
Other than that horrendous cross, can't see that he did anything wrong at all. He's actually a very important member of a squad riddled with injuries.
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Post by Simon Drainrod on Feb 1, 2015 8:40:44 GMT
I didn't start this thread as a Wilson-bashing exercise, but as an honest appreciation of muni. Wilson is a god pro. A player's player maybe? I just muni deserves a regular start at CB, or LB if pieters isn't fit. Incredible the difference an "o" can make - in this case a missing "o". Surely! They're all gods to me.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 1, 2015 8:47:08 GMT
Incredible the difference an "o" can make - in this case a missing "o". Surely! They're all gods to me. OMG!
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Post by mozzer on Feb 1, 2015 9:50:52 GMT
I certainly do not hate Wilson as he wears the red and white stripes and always gives his best when he plays........
Although..........
My heart does sink when I see him in the starting eleven but that is not his fault that he is being picked, I think the guy is a liability at Centre Half, is not good enough for full back if Pieters or Muni are fit, midfield seems to be his prefered starting spot but not sure that he is good enough for that either..........but we did get rid of Kitson in the deal to bring him here so lets cut him some slack.
saying all that my heart also sinks when I see Bardsley on the team sheet as I feel him and Wilson are on Par with each other...but as aboe they both give their best.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 1, 2015 10:00:17 GMT
When he is on the pitch it may be a nice idea to get behind him rather than wait for his first mistake and twitter it to your mates Like he, or the management read your shit Making yourself look a bit if a twat here sufolk, wilsons awful and I think we all see it, the guys a liability and has cost us a fair few points this season, as a profesional footballer he truly is shit. No need for that language fella You have made your view clear. I happen to disagree and think he is ok at left back. 2nd best left back we have in fact, which is granted not saying much
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 1, 2015 10:00:58 GMT
Maybe Wilson got the fullback slot as Hughes had doubts about Shawcross`s fitness,any problem with Ryan one change man for man with Ryan meaning less disruption?
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Post by alwich90 on Feb 1, 2015 10:16:27 GMT
Muni should be a proper left back, he's quick and skilful enough to pull it off, just needs to have that as his focus and have a run in the side!
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 1, 2015 10:49:47 GMT
Erm.................He's dropped him from centre back and we've improved remarkably since (League games before dropping Wilson from CB. P14 W4 D3 L7. After dropping Wilson P9 W5 D2 L2). He's signed another centre back to push him further down the pecking order. And he's being played at left back (his best position and I'd play him there over Muni myself) because we need him to. In fact second choice left back is currently the highest place he is in the squad depth charts! When he is on the pitch it may be a nice idea to get behind him rather than wait for his first mistake and twitter it to your mates Like he, or the management read your shit "Like he or the management read any of your shit" ???? I was bein mild callin you a twat tbh
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 1, 2015 10:50:57 GMT
You can magine the panic in the BBB (Boo Boys Brigade) pre match.
Shit!!! Walters is having a decent season. Whelan is our most consistent midfielder. Cameron and Diouf on the bench. Who the fcuk are we gonna hammer before a balls even kicked today?!!!!???
Ahhhhhhhh.......it's alright lads......Wilson in at left back ahead of Muni. Fill yer boots lads. Fill yer boots.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 1, 2015 10:56:01 GMT
I would never boo foxy, I just don't agree with him bein a premiership footballer, fuckin awful player!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2015 10:57:54 GMT
Making yourself look a bit if a twat here sufolk, wilsons awful and I think we all see it, the guys a liability and has cost us a fair few points this season, as a profesional footballer he truly is shit. No need for that language fella You have made your view clear. I happen to disagree and think he is ok at left back. 2nd best left back we have in fact, which is granted not saying much I think that too. Which I think is a bit frightening because going forward he does hamper us so much from there (he always did).
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 1, 2015 10:58:18 GMT
When he is on the pitch it may be a nice idea to get behind him rather than wait for his first mistake and twitter it to your mates Like he, or the management read your shit "Like he or the management read any of your shit" ???? I was bein mild callin you a twat tbh Oh dear
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2015 10:58:53 GMT
You can magine the panic in the BBB (Boo Boys Brigade) pre match. Shit!!! Walters is having a decent season. Whelan is our most consistent midfielder. Cameron and Diouf on the bench. Who the fcuk are we gonna hammer before a balls even kicked today?!!!!??? Ahhhhhhhh.......it's alright lads......Wilson in at left back ahead of Muni. Fill yer boots lads. Fill yer boots. I'd play Wilson over Muni at left back every day of the week! He was still bloody awful yesterday mind!
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 1, 2015 11:00:15 GMT
No need for that language fella You have made your view clear. I happen to disagree and think he is ok at left back. 2nd best left back we have in fact, which is granted not saying much I think that too. Which I think is a bit frightening because going forward he does hamper us so much from there (he always did). Aye - but best we have when Pieters is out as Muni does not cut it there Still need a lb and rb in the summer
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2015 11:01:05 GMT
"Like he or the management read any of your shit" ???? I was bein mild callin you a twat tbh Oh dear Oh dear indeed, what were you going on about because I never said nor intimated that I thought they did!
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 1, 2015 11:02:20 GMT
You can magine the panic in the BBB (Boo Boys Brigade) pre match. Shit!!! Walters is having a decent season. Whelan is our most consistent midfielder. Cameron and Diouf on the bench. Who the fcuk are we gonna hammer before a balls even kicked today?!!!!??? Ahhhhhhhh.......it's alright lads......Wilson in at left back ahead of Muni. Fill yer boots lads. Fill yer boots. I'd play Wilson over Muni at left back every day of the week! He was still bloody awful yesterday mind! He was average at best. But that could be said of most of the team. The problem is a lot of people make their mind up that Wilson had a shit game before a ball is even kicked. Just like they have done/will do at various times for Whelan, Walters, Cameron etc.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 1, 2015 11:02:37 GMT
A right back is more important, Bardsley doesn't fill me with confidence at all.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2015 11:06:31 GMT
I'd play Wilson over Muni at left back every day of the week! He was still bloody awful yesterday mind! He was average at best. But that could be said of most of the team. The problem is a lot of people make their mind up that Wilson had a shit game before a ball is even kicked. Just like they have done/will do at various times for Whelan, Walters, Cameron etc. I don't, I quite like him at left back but I think under Hughes there he hasn't looked anything like the player who played left back for TP. His distribution was always hit and miss but it's become absolutely awful and I can't remember him not being this bad with his left foot. It's like he's got no strength in his left leg, he can barely lift the ball with it.
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