|
Post by northstaffycher on Feb 6, 2015 18:14:02 GMT
We must not lie down over this. It is time for an uprising!! I'm Spartacus...and so is my wife. ;-)
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:17:13 GMT
What does a few hundred mean? 200, 300, 600, 900? If the bottom tier is sold out, then they're obviously going to have to open the upper tier, to accommodate this 'few' hundred extra. Do we assume that the old bill have said you can have enough tickets to satisfy your waiting list but no more- ie if there's 421 on the waiting list, then you can have 421 extra tickets? That will look proper shit.
|
|
|
Post by that's our Ric on Feb 6, 2015 18:17:38 GMT
You know what...fuck em
I'm going anyway
|
|
|
Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 6, 2015 18:19:46 GMT
What does a few hundred mean? 200, 300, 600, 900? If the bottom tier is sold out, then they're obviously going to have to open the upper tier, to accommodate this 'few' hundred extra. Do we assume that the old bill have said you can have enough tickets to satisfy your waiting list but no more- ie if there's 421 on the waiting list, then you can have 421 extra tickets? think they have given us more tickets to meet the 15% of capacity rule as they were slighty breaking the rule with amount of tickets given. i'd say 2-300 more max. They may have given us a few more rows at the front as i think rows 1-5 were not for sale??? They don't HAVE to give us 15%, it only has to be NEAR to that figure depending on the structure/segregation of the stadium and anyway that can be massively be reduced by the old bill anyway - see Spurs only getting 8% at the Emirates. Strange that the plod are going to force Blackburn to open the upper tier to accommodate just a few more fans, I guess it all depends what a few hundred actually means?
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:22:04 GMT
What does a few hundred mean? 200, 300, 600, 900? If the bottom tier is sold out, then they're obviously going to have to open the upper tier, to accommodate this 'few' hundred extra. Do we assume that the old bill have said you can have enough tickets to satisfy your waiting list but no more- ie if there's 421 on the waiting list, then you can have 421 extra tickets? Maybe they have decided to sell the 1st 5 rows of seats in the lower tier.
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 6, 2015 18:22:44 GMT
think they have given us more tickets to meet the 15% of capacity rule as they were slighty breaking the rule with amount of tickets given. i'd say 2-300 more max. They may have given us a few more rows at the front as i think rows 1-5 were not for sale??? They don't HAVE to give us 15%, it only has to be NEAR to that figure depending on the structure/segregation of the stadium and anyway that can be massively be reduced by the old bill anyway - see Spurs only getting 8% at the Emirates. Strange that the plod are going to force Blackburn to open the upper tier to accommodate just a few more fans, I guess it all depends what a few hundred actually means? The upper tier won't house the additional fans. The allocation was short of the full number of seats available in the lower tier so my guess is that they will fill the bottom rows, and fill the sections right up the side wall at either side of the stand rather than leaving a few rows clear as some form of "keeping you away from home fans in the respective paddocks".
|
|
|
Post by sportsman on Feb 6, 2015 18:27:30 GMT
To everyone going.....now make the police earn their money.
|
|
sting
Youth Player
Posts: 354
|
Post by sting on Feb 6, 2015 18:31:43 GMT
It will be interesting to hear the Blackburn and the Lancs Police response to the club statement. I heard very reliably that we could have had 6500 had we agreed to an earlier kick off. It is normal practice to keep some rows sterile. The club chose to start selling before they had a response to their request. Had they waited 24 hours they could have made an informed decision as I understand both Blackburn and the police sanctioned the fuller allocation on Monday afternoon. By this time tickets were on sale and moving quickly.
I agree that we shouldn't have to be subjected to this treatment. Sadly a number of factors will have been taken in to account. Our history; the fact that a small minority of Leeds fans caused mayhem back in November when they allowed them the whole end; the disgraceful behaviour of a small number of "supporters" in Leicester and on route back via Derby; the fact that our average away following is only around 2,000 this season. Leicester was our biggest following so far and by a long way the most edgy. There is no doubt that the police were worried about elements travelling who select certain games for some action. Some of the talk on here in the past few days would only serve to reinforce that view.
I only post this to provide some balance. My hope is that those without tickets stay away and allow those lucky enough to get them a safe day without mindless harassment from the police. Talk of Stokies in home areas and worse will I fear mean it will be a frosty reception which. added to the discontent that some of our supporters will show towards our hosts, make for a potentially tricky afternoon. And that's just off the pitch.
|
|
|
Post by mywaydesolzan on Feb 6, 2015 18:32:10 GMT
To everyone going.....now make the police earn their money. What on earth does that mean?
|
|
|
Post by robwahlmann on Feb 6, 2015 18:34:08 GMT
I really hope we can make it through to the quarter finals! Hopefully the draw won't send us to the Emirates or Old trafford (or Anfield)!
|
|
|
Post by stevieb on Feb 6, 2015 18:36:29 GMT
The low allocation has nothing to do with Stoke City or Scholsey. Blackburn would have told Stoke they could have up to 7000 tickets with an initial allocation of 4300 ish with the remainder being released on Stokes request. Lancashire Police have objected to this so a meeting of the safety advisory group consisting of plod, council health and safety, ambulance and the Trumptons as well as The safety officer from Blackburn, the chairman of the SAG ( usually a senior council member) would listen to all sides before making a ruling on the grounds of safety, basically if Lancs OB say they couldn't police it with the required number of cops because of other force commitments ( are Preston playing Man Ure the same day .) then that would probably swing it. The ultimatum for a earlier kick off would be in an attempt to stop us drinking so much and to be honest after seeing what went on at Leicester and being on that train on the way home I don't really blame em
|
|
|
Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 6, 2015 18:37:10 GMT
They don't HAVE to give us 15%, it only has to be NEAR to that figure depending on the structure/segregation of the stadium and anyway that can be massively be reduced by the old bill anyway - see Spurs only getting 8% at the Emirates. Strange that the plod are going to force Blackburn to open the upper tier to accommodate just a few more fans, I guess it all depends what a few hundred actually means? The upper tier won't house the additional fans. The allocation was short of the full number of seats available in the lower tier so my guess is that they will fill the bottom rows, and fill the sections right up the side wall at either side of the stand rather than leaving a few rows clear as some form of "keeping you away from home fans in the respective paddocks". As I said originally mate, I guess ultimately it all depends on what a 'few' hundred actually means and the reason for giving us those few hundred.
|
|
|
Post by Sven on Feb 6, 2015 18:39:35 GMT
think they have given us more tickets to meet the 15% of capacity rule as they were slighty breaking the rule with amount of tickets given. i'd say 2-300 more max. They may have given us a few more rows at the front as i think rows 1-5 were not for sale??? They don't HAVE to give us 15%, it only has to be NEAR to that figure depending on the structure/segregation of the stadium and anyway that can be massively be reduced by the old bill anyway - see Spurs only getting 8% at the Emirates. Strange that the plod are going to force Blackburn to open the upper tier to accommodate just a few more fans, I guess it all depends what a few hundred actually means? i was giving my opinion not factual information
|
|
|
Post by dresdendave on Feb 6, 2015 18:39:40 GMT
To everyone going.....now make the police earn their money. Cock! What a pathetic, childish keyboard warrier you are.
|
|
|
Post by stevieb on Feb 6, 2015 18:41:16 GMT
I think we should protest about the way we are treated by GMP. I am absolutely serious. Protests en masse are easy to organise these days...this is not on in 2015!! Fuming... And it's got nothing to do with the GMP. It's not GMP its Lancs police my geographically challenged friend !
|
|
|
Post by Stafford-Stokie on Feb 6, 2015 18:41:36 GMT
The low allocation has nothing to do with Stoke City or Scholsey. Blackburn would have told Stoke they could have up to 7000 tickets with an initial allocation of 4300 ish with the remainder being released on Stokes request. Lancashire Police have objected to this so a meeting of the safety advisory group consisting of plod, council health and safety, ambulance and the Trumptons as well as The safety officer from Blackburn, the chairman of the SAG ( usually a senior council member) would listen to all sides before making a ruling on the grounds of safety, basically if Lancs OB say they couldn't police it with the required number of cops because of other force commitments ( are Preston playing Man Ure the same day .) then that would probably swing it. The ultimatum for a earlier kick off would be in an attempt to stop us drinking so much and to be honest after seeing what went on at Leicester and being on that train on the way home I don't really blame em Preston V the shit is on the Monday.
|
|
|
Post by Sven on Feb 6, 2015 18:41:52 GMT
|
|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 6, 2015 18:43:29 GMT
The romance of the Cup eh.
Matthews, Radford, Porterfield, Stokes and Stokeo, names that trip off the tongue for lovers of this great tournament. The next name keeping this competition alive, the fucking Blackburn Safety Advisory Committee.
Magic of the cup my hairy starfish.
|
|
|
Post by stevieb on Feb 6, 2015 18:44:27 GMT
Our tickets arrived yesterday in the home end. A few of the lads went up this morning and asked the locals to buy them 6 tickets at a time in the home end. They gave them £20 for their troubles. Piece of piss and the tickets still work out at less than £20 per person. Get on it lads, there's really no need to miss out. Yeah of course they did and Elvis is playing in the Kings head when you get back lol
|
|
|
Post by stevieb on Feb 6, 2015 18:46:36 GMT
The low allocation has nothing to do with Stoke City or Scholsey. Blackburn would have told Stoke they could have up to 7000 tickets with an initial allocation of 4300 ish with the remainder being released on Stokes request. Lancashire Police have objected to this so a meeting of the safety advisory group consisting of plod, council health and safety, ambulance and the Trumptons as well as The safety officer from Blackburn, the chairman of the SAG ( usually a senior council member) would listen to all sides before making a ruling on the grounds of safety, basically if Lancs OB say they couldn't police it with the required number of cops because of other force commitments ( are Preston playing Man Ure the same day .) then that would probably swing it. The ultimatum for a earlier kick off would be in an attempt to stop us drinking so much and to be honest after seeing what went on at Leicester and being on that train on the way home I don't really blame em Preston V the shit is on the Monday. That's my argument scuppered
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 18:52:12 GMT
And it's got nothing to do with the GMP. It's not GMP its Lancs police my geographically challenged friend ! You are quoting the wrong person.
|
|
|
Post by pottersrule on Feb 6, 2015 18:53:35 GMT
It will be interesting to hear the Blackburn and the Lancs Police response to the club statement. I heard very reliably that we could have had 6500 had we agreed to an earlier kick off. It is normal practice to keep some rows sterile. The club chose to start selling before they had a response to their request. Had they waited 24 hours they could have made an informed decision as I understand both Blackburn and the police sanctioned the fuller allocation on Monday afternoon. By this time tickets were on sale and moving quickly. I agree that we shouldn't have to be subjected to this treatment. Sadly a number of factors will have been taken in to account. Our history; the fact that a small minority of Leeds fans caused mayhem back in November when they allowed them the whole end; the disgraceful behaviour of a small number of "supporters" in Leicester and on route back via Derby; the fact that our average away following is only around 2,000 this season. Leicester was our biggest following so far and by a long way the most edgy. There is no doubt that the police were worried about elements travelling who select certain games for some action. Some of the talk on here in the past few days would only serve to reinforce that view. I only post this to provide some balance. My hope is that those without tickets stay away and allow those lucky enough to get them a safe day without mindless harassment from the police. Talk of Stokies in home areas and worse will I fear mean it will be a frosty reception which. added to the discontent that some of our supporters will show towards our hosts, make for a potentially tricky afternoon. And that's just off the pitch. Thought the behaviour at Leicester was impeccable.What disgraceful behaviour are you referring to?
|
|
|
Post by sportsman on Feb 6, 2015 18:55:41 GMT
To everyone going.....now make the police earn their money. Cock! What a pathetic, childish keyboard warrier you are. fucking hell you lot take things so serious. Pillock
|
|
|
Post by stevieb on Feb 6, 2015 18:55:46 GMT
It will be interesting to hear the Blackburn and the Lancs Police response to the club statement. I heard very reliably that we could have had 6500 had we agreed to an earlier kick off. It is normal practice to keep some rows sterile. The club chose to start selling before they had a response to their request. Had they waited 24 hours they could have made an informed decision as I understand both Blackburn and the police sanctioned the fuller allocation on Monday afternoon. By this time tickets were on sale and moving quickly. I agree that we shouldn't have to be subjected to this treatment. Sadly a number of factors will have been taken in to account. Our history; the fact that a small minority of Leeds fans caused mayhem back in November when they allowed them the whole end; the disgraceful behaviour of a small number of "supporters" in Leicester and on route back via Derby; the fact that our average away following is only around 2,000 this season. Leicester was our biggest following so far and by a long way the most edgy. There is no doubt that the police were worried about elements travelling who select certain games for some action. Some of the talk on here in the past few days would only serve to reinforce that view. I only post this to provide some balance. My hope is that those without tickets stay away and allow those lucky enough to get them a safe day without mindless harassment from the police. Talk of Stokies in home areas and worse will I fear mean it will be a frosty reception which. added to the discontent that some of our supporters will show towards our hosts, make for a potentially tricky afternoon. And that's just off the pitch. Thought the behaviour at Leicester was impeccable.What disgraceful behaviour are you referring to? Just a stab in the dark but it could have been the covering of Spoons landlady with mustard and brown sauce ( which although out of order was strangely arousing) or the swinging on the chandelears in the same hostelry. If not that it may have been the beer fight in the pub by the ground or just maybe and this is a stab in the dark the fondeling of the female OB and the female ticket collector on the train back and yes I have given a statement
|
|
sting
Youth Player
Posts: 354
|
Post by sting on Feb 6, 2015 19:01:04 GMT
The low allocation has nothing to do with Stoke City or Scholsey. Blackburn would have told Stoke they could have up to 7000 tickets with an initial allocation of 4300 ish with the remainder being released on Stokes request. Lancashire Police have objected to this so a meeting of the safety advisory group consisting of plod, council health and safety, ambulance and the Trumptons as well as The safety officer from Blackburn, the chairman of the SAG ( usually a senior council member) would listen to all sides before making a ruling on the grounds of safety, basically if Lancs OB say they couldn't police it with the required number of cops because of other force commitments ( are Preston playing Man Ure the same day .) then that would probably swing it. The ultimatum for a earlier kick off would be in an attempt to stop us drinking so much and to be honest after seeing what went on at Leicester and being on that train on the way home I don't really blame em Steve, I agree totally with your last point mate. I was on the train back to Derby and it was horrendous. BTP would have passed that around I'm sure. On your initial point, I know as a fact that there was agreement to release 6500 subject to a 12.30 kick off in response to the club's request. My question regards the chronology of events. If the club made the request wouldn't it have been wise to wait for the response before putting tickets on sale? They knew this on Monday afternoon I was told. The club jumped the gun by which time changing the kick off time became difficult. Had the club announced they had secured 6500 but the kick off had been moved before they started selling I suspect that supporters would have accepted this, even if disappointed it wasn't 3pm. Sadly, that was never an option once we started selling the initial allocation. The club only went public on Thursday, some three days after the decision which they already knew. I personally think the club gambled on the police backing down. Unfortunately we lost, as have Blackburn who have missed out on significant revenue and I suspect may now face a larger police bill due to Stokies being in home areas. All in all an avoidable cock up by all parties.
|
|
|
Post by burge2u on Feb 6, 2015 19:04:50 GMT
Cock! What a pathetic, childish keyboard warrier you are. fucking hell you lot take things so serious. Pillock Your attitude is probably the reason why genuine law abiding Stoke fans have been deprived of the full allocation of tickets,....... Thanks
|
|
|
Post by stevieb on Feb 6, 2015 19:09:34 GMT
The low allocation has nothing to do with Stoke City or Scholsey. Blackburn would have told Stoke they could have up to 7000 tickets with an initial allocation of 4300 ish with the remainder being released on Stokes request. Lancashire Police have objected to this so a meeting of the safety advisory group consisting of plod, council health and safety, ambulance and the Trumptons as well as The safety officer from Blackburn, the chairman of the SAG ( usually a senior council member) would listen to all sides before making a ruling on the grounds of safety, basically if Lancs OB say they couldn't police it with the required number of cops because of other force commitments ( are Preston playing Man Ure the same day .) then that would probably swing it. The ultimatum for a earlier kick off would be in an attempt to stop us drinking so much and to be honest after seeing what went on at Leicester and being on that train on the way home I don't really blame em Steve, I agree totally with your last point mate. I was on the train back to Derby and it was horrendous. BTP would have passed that around I'm sure. On your initial point, I know as a fact that there was agreement to release 6500 subject to a 12.30 kick off in response to the club's request. My question regards the chronology of events. If the club made the request wouldn't it have been wise to wait for the response before putting tickets on sale? They knew this on Monday afternoon I was told. The club jumped the gun by which time changing the kick off time became difficult. Had the club announced they had secured 6500 but the kick off had been moved before they started selling I suspect that supporters would have accepted this, even if disappointed it wasn't 3pm. Sadly, that was never an option once we started selling the initial allocation. The club only went public on Thursday, some three days after the decision which they already knew. I personally think the club gambled on the police backing down. Unfortunately we lost, as have Blackburn who have missed out on significant revenue and I suspect may now face a larger police bill due to Stokies being in home areas. All in all an avoidable cock up by all parties. Good points them mate and I think you may well right.
|
|
|
Post by sportsman on Feb 6, 2015 19:11:44 GMT
fucking hell you lot take things so serious. Pillock Your attitude is probably the reason why genuine law abiding Stoke fans have been deprived of the full allocation of tickets,....... Thanks What a load of bollocks. God their's some wazzacks on here. You can't have a laugh on here.
|
|
|
Post by stevieb on Feb 6, 2015 19:12:19 GMT
It's not GMP its Lancs police my geographically challenged friend ! You are quoting the wrong person. Oops soz buddy
|
|
|
Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 6, 2015 19:13:20 GMT
It's not GMP its Lancs police my geographically challenged friend ! You are quoting the wrong person *my technologically challenged friend.
|
|