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Post by kinetic on Feb 12, 2015 19:17:59 GMT
Misses the point only 1% of Mosques opened there doors on the big open day ?? Maybe she should have tried visiting one of those 1% which was open instead of getting mixed up and making a non-story become national news and a chance to bash the muslims. I'm curious about this 1% part as well, I wonder what the actual uptake was of the population visiting? I wonder if it was less than 1%? Would the 1% open be a bad thing then? I'll be honest I didn't go and I didn't even look to see if any were open. I didn't even know it was a thing until Ms Newman got lost. Is it a non story though. Back to the quote above by a muslim women. muslimnews.co.uk/newspaper-tag/islamic-centre-soho/I certainly hope it was less than 1% of the population went along to no doubt see the smilly happy clappy side of Islam if there is one. You watch the Stacey Dooley program My Hometown Fanatics. She visited the local moderate Muslim on that program forget his name but watch the program then go on his website and read the bits about killing gays stoning adulterers ya know the rest. I don't want learn about any religion as I have said before I can live side by side with religion just so long as it don't affect me.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 12, 2015 19:33:09 GMT
You running for election Kinetic? no point I live Burslem central ward that vote guaranteed for a good few years for Labour until there block vote turn like it has in Tower Hamlets and then we can all see what a raciest sexiest bigoted morally corrupt Ideology is at play. But now doubt Tower Hamlets and Lutfur Rahman never happened ?? a blue print for the UK that place is.
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Post by kbillyh on Feb 12, 2015 19:58:50 GMT
You running for election Kinetic? no point I live Burslem central ward that vote guaranteed for a good few years for Labour until there block vote turn like it has in Tower Hamlets and then we can all see what a raciest sexiest bigoted morally corrupt Ideology is at play. But now doubt Tower Hamlets and Lutfur Rahman never happened ?? a blue print for the UK that place is. You don't have to live in the ward you stand for you know. Which party would you go for?
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Post by kinetic on Feb 12, 2015 19:59:46 GMT
Oh here he is putting words in peoples mouths. Its not me calling it a parking dispute the Police are. Considering in Paris they were shouting the Prophet has been avenged NO will be the answer. Why don't you concentrate on demanding actual figures of a systematic rape of a non muslim generation by muslims up and down the UK ?? Its funny now a few figures have been released you have gone awfully quiet. I haven't gone quiet about anything. I never get involved in threads about peados 'cos they disgust me & I can't bring myself to read the stories of what has gone on. Unlike you though I don't think Muslim peados are any worse than white/black/Christian/Athiest/etc... peados. They're all scum. Yet here you are trying your very hardest to defend Sunni Islam a cult who's leader was a nonce. Sorry its not paedophilia is it she had started her menstrual cycle so its ok the fact she was 9yrs old. What century are we living in again Im off down the Council tomorrow see if they have any land going for a pound for me to set up the Church of Jimmy Saville I see it has a fitting tribute.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 12, 2015 20:01:38 GMT
no point I live Burslem central ward that vote guaranteed for a good few years for Labour until there block vote turn like it has in Tower Hamlets and then we can all see what a raciest sexiest bigoted morally corrupt Ideology is at play. But now doubt Tower Hamlets and Lutfur Rahman never happened ?? a blue print for the UK that place is. You don't have to live in the ward you stand for you know. Which party would you go for? independent shake shit up a bit cause the main parties don't give 2 fucks just corporate face pieces. Speaking of running bath time work in a bit.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 12, 2015 20:11:10 GMT
Yet here you are trying your very hardest to defend Sunni Islam a cult who's leader was a nonce. Sorry its not paedophilia is it she had started her menstrual cycle so its ok the fact she was 9yrs old. What century are we living in again Im off down the Council tomorrow see if they have any land going for a pound for me to set up the Church of Jimmy Saville I see it has a fitting tribute. I'm not trying to do anything, I simply posted a newspaper article showing that your post was a load of shit. You're the one with the massive problem with all Muslims. I just view the world differently to you. In your eyes all Muslims are scum & that's that. In my eyes there are two types of people in the world, 'sound people' & 'dickheads'. 'Dickheads' covers a whole range of people from Muslim suicide bombers through to scumbag white English smackheads. 'Sound people' also covers a whole range of people from whites to blacks, athiests to Jews, old & young, basically anyone who just gets on with their life & doesn't have a negative impact on other people. If I had to pick my next door neighbour & the choice was a sound Muslim or a dickhead white English bloke I know which I'd be picking.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 12, 2015 20:19:57 GMT
Yet here you are trying your very hardest to defend Sunni Islam a cult who's leader was a nonce. Sorry its not paedophilia is it she had started her menstrual cycle so its ok the fact she was 9yrs old. What century are we living in again Im off down the Council tomorrow see if they have any land going for a pound for me to set up the Church of Jimmy Saville I see it has a fitting tribute. I'm not trying to do anything, I simply posted a newspaper article showing that your post was a load of shit. You're the one with the massive problem with all Muslims. I just view the world differently to you. In your eyes all Muslims are scum & that's that. In my eyes there are two types of people in the world, 'sound people' & 'dickheads'. 'Dickheads' covers a whole range of people from Muslim suicide bombers through to scumbag white English smackheads. 'Sound people' also covers a whole range of people from whites to blacks, athiests to Jews, old & young, basically anyone who just gets on with their life & doesn't have a negative impact on other people. If I had to pick my next door neighbour & the choice was a sound Muslim or a dickhead white English bloke I know which I'd be picking. All Muslims my my we are looking like that dick head white bloke you keep referring to when did one sect Sunni Islam become all Muslims they are the true Muslims mind the ones who follow their pedo prophet word for word but yeah they are sound if you want live like we did 1400 years ago hahaha.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 12, 2015 20:28:14 GMT
Maybe she should have tried visiting one of those 1% which was open instead of getting mixed up and making a non-story become national news and a chance to bash the muslims. I'm curious about this 1% part as well, I wonder what the actual uptake was of the population visiting? I wonder if it was less than 1%? Would the 1% open be a bad thing then? I'll be honest I didn't go and I didn't even look to see if any were open. I didn't even know it was a thing until Ms Newman got lost. Is it a non story though. Back to the quote above by a muslim women. muslimnews.co.uk/newspaper-tag/islamic-centre-soho/I certainly hope it was less than 1% of the population went along to no doubt see the smilly happy clappy side of Islam if there is one. You watch the Stacey Dooley program My Hometown Fanatics. She visited the local moderate Muslim on that program forget his name but watch the program then go on his website and read the bits about killing gays stoning adulterers ya know the rest. I don't want learn about any religion as I have said before I can live side by side with religion just so long as it don't affect me. It is a non-story because she made it up. Firstly she went to the wrong bloody place and then she claimed she was "ushered out" when quite clearly she wasn't/ It's a non-story because it's not fucking true!
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Post by kbillyh on Feb 12, 2015 20:36:17 GMT
To be fair to Kinetic though, he is very specific about the Muslim sect he hates.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 12, 2015 20:48:53 GMT
Is it a non story though. Back to the quote above by a muslim women. muslimnews.co.uk/newspaper-tag/islamic-centre-soho/I certainly hope it was less than 1% of the population went along to no doubt see the smilly happy clappy side of Islam if there is one. You watch the Stacey Dooley program My Hometown Fanatics. She visited the local moderate Muslim on that program forget his name but watch the program then go on his website and read the bits about killing gays stoning adulterers ya know the rest. I don't want learn about any religion as I have said before I can live side by side with religion just so long as it don't affect me. It is a non-story because she made it up. Firstly she went to the wrong bloody place and then she claimed she was "ushered out" when quite clearly she wasn't/ It's a non-story because it's not fucking true! So the segregation of women in Sunni Islam is a non story Cate might have told a load of porkies think your missing the point as I said read what a Muslim Woman has say above.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 12, 2015 20:49:59 GMT
To be fair to Kinetic though, he is very specific about the Muslim sect he hates. And so are the Sunnis even Muslims are fair game. Their way or the highway. This is from a muslim website btw.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 12, 2015 21:19:50 GMT
It is a non-story because she made it up. Firstly she went to the wrong bloody place and then she claimed she was "ushered out" when quite clearly she wasn't/ It's a non-story because it's not fucking true! So the segregation of women in Sunni Islam is a non story Cate might have told a load of porkies think your missing the point as I said read what a Muslim Woman has say above. This is your post and yes, it is a non-story. I see the media were getting all excited about 1% of British Mosques opening their doors to the public for the Visit My Mosque day . Channel 4 News Cathy Newman couldn't wait get the cameras round to her closest local Mosque that had opened up. 1%, shame when she got there she was duly told to fuck off. At least they are trying.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 13, 2015 7:04:05 GMT
I haven't gone quiet about anything. I never get involved in threads about peados 'cos they disgust me & I can't bring myself to read the stories of what has gone on. Unlike you though I don't think Muslim peados are any worse than white/black/Christian/Athiest/etc... peados. They're all scum. Ummmmm ???
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Post by kinetic on Feb 13, 2015 7:15:08 GMT
Ah I see. Cathy was really important while it was a chance to shame Islam, but now it turns out she is a massive liar she is suddenly irrelevant. As for the Chapple Hill killings, plenty of people (Both Muslims & non-muslims) are wondering why it is not called a terrorist attack & getting plenty of media coverage. Are they wrong to ask that? If it had been a Muslim killing three innocent white/Christian people do we think it'd be ignored? I'll bet my last quid that you'd be on here making a post about it for a start! I love how because it's a white man killing some Muslims you've already brushed it off as "just a parking dispute". I suppose you also think that what happened in Paris was just a dispute over a magazine, right? Or let me guess, because they were Muslim it was different. Was it right to label Chapel Hill shootings a 'hate crime' so quickly?www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-31442118Was it ?? If it had been a Muslim attacking non Muslims and they happened to be drunk they would have been let of fact happens every day. Did you not read the case in Tunstall a few week back or the one down south "Kill The White bitch" but that aint racist ? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.htmlLet off with fuck all. The one in Tunstall same again because they were not used to drink bless em.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 13, 2015 7:24:55 GMT
So the segregation of women in Sunni Islam is a non story Cate might have told a load of porkies think your missing the point as I said read what a Muslim Woman has say above. This is your post and yes, it is a non-story. I see the media were getting all excited about 1% of British Mosques opening their doors to the public for the Visit My Mosque day . Channel 4 News Cathy Newman couldn't wait get the cameras round to her closest local Mosque that had opened up. 1%, shame when she got there she was duly told to fuck off. At least they are trying. I would love hear Cathy's side of the story but I have a funny feeling we never will. They got cctv of her walking out alone and ?? Who knows what was said but I will guarantee this only one side will do the talking now. Them that are all ways offended but ashamed of nothing. Look at this lovely bunch storify.com/public/templates/card/index.html?src=//storify.com/LouiseMensch/the-organised-campaign-of-threats-against-cathy-neThere is a story/issue as well women are second class citizens in Sunni Islam but that's nothing be ashamed of for em is it ? Asian if they perpetrate the crime & Muslim if they're victim of a crime.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 13, 2015 9:07:46 GMT
I haven't gone quiet about anything. I never get involved in threads about peados 'cos they disgust me & I can't bring myself to read the stories of what has gone on. Unlike you though I don't think Muslim peados are any worse than white/black/Christian/Athiest/etc... peados. They're all scum. Ummmmm ??? Erm... I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make there? That's a thread about 'Islam : The Religion Of War' (I wonder who started that thread) And therefore had nothing to do with having to read stories about sickening acts towards children. ..... I do find it rather sweet that you stayed up all night going through my posts, though. Gives me a nice 'fuzzy' feeling
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 13, 2015 9:08:50 GMT
I would love hear Cathy's side of the story but I have a funny feeling we never will. We've already heard it. Turns out it was a big bucket load of bullshit lies.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 13, 2015 9:21:22 GMT
She gave her side of the story at the start and it turns out she was lying. I've had a look at your link, that Twitter for you. Bunch of fucktards who are happy to post abuse to increase their own (non) self importance. People posting abusive messages should be dealt with appropriately by the law. That lovely bunch are not the only ones posting abuse although in fairness the first one about Resigning or being Sacked could be discussed on merit. She is a news reporter; she should only deal in facts. She took to Twitter to make false claims about the situation and then it was discussed quite heavily on Channel 4 news later that night (I remember watching it). Is that fair? How much damage has been done? At times when racial tension is already heightened it's probably not the best of stories to lead with and cause a negative image that wasn't particularly true. Yes there is a story regarding the other issue but that is a cultural difference that needs addressing, especially when practicing in the UK. However did you know that this week women were allowed to become members of the Royal and Ancient Club of St Andrews. If we're so far ahead of them why is this only happening now? It would appear the Muslims aren’t the only ones who treat qwomen as second class citizens sometimes. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/31373972
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Post by kinetic on Feb 13, 2015 9:27:02 GMT
Ummmmm ??? Erm... I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make there? That's a thread about 'Islam : The Religion Of War' (I wonder who started that thread) And therefore had nothing to do with having to read stories about sickening acts towards children. ..... I do find it rather sweet that you stayed up all night going through my posts, though. Gives me a nice 'fuzzy' feeling
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Post by kinetic on Feb 13, 2015 9:39:26 GMT
She gave her side of the story at the start and it turns out she was lying. I've had a look at your link, that Twitter for you. Bunch of fucktards who are happy to post abuse to increase their own (non) self importance. People posting abusive messages should be dealt with appropriately by the law. That lovely bunch are not the only ones posting abuse although in fairness the first one about Resigning or being Sacked could be discussed on merit. She is a news reporter; she should only deal in facts. She took to Twitter to make false claims about the situation and then it was discussed quite heavily on Channel 4 news later that night (I remember watching it). Is that fair? How much damage has been done? At times when racial tension is already heightened it's probably not the best of stories to lead with and cause a negative image that wasn't particularly true. Yes there is a story regarding the other issue but that is a cultural difference that needs addressing, especially when practicing in the UK. However did you know that this week women were allowed to become members of the Royal and Ancient Club of St Andrews. If we're so far ahead of them why is this only happening now? It would appear the Muslims aren’t the only ones who treat qwomen as second class citizens sometimes. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/31373972OK Lets have some Sunni leaders for ya. Sunni Historian This poor kid Died and her dirty cunt of a father was a celebrity on Saudi Sunni TV That's all I have seen from the leaders of Sunni Islam this week. See what next brings more of the same no doubt. Shocking Cathy said she was ushered out when infact she walked out the big liar.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 13, 2015 9:45:55 GMT
Dio you think as a news reporter she should be allowed to lie and then present this on the news later, to a national audience?
You're turning this thread into a debate which wasn't originally the point. I have no idea why. My point above was merely a retort to Islam treating women as second class citizens yet we wouldn't even let them play golf. The messages you've put above are quotes from morons, we've got the same in our culture. Do Sunni Islam leaders only say vile things? Or is that all you look for? Do they say nothing positive ever? Or are you just posting selectively to get the biggest reaction and reinforce your belief that they are inherently evil?
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Post by kinetic on Feb 13, 2015 9:56:25 GMT
Dio you think as a news reporter she should be allowed to lie and then present this on the news later, to a national audience? You're turning this thread into a debate which wasn't originally the point. I have no idea why. My point above was merely a retort to Islam treating women as second class citizens yet we wouldn't even let them play golf. The messages you've put above are quotes from morons, we've got the same in our culture. Do Sunni Islam leaders only say vile things? Or is that all you look for? Do they say nothing positive ever? Or are you just posting selectively to get the biggest reaction and reinforce your belief that they are inherently evil? What was the original point ? The media is full of bullshit. She tweeted in the heat of the moment easy done. We don't know the facts of what was said why wasn't she show around the Mosque ? Even if it wasn't part of the 1% taking part in the open day ? Go down to you local Church or Jewish Temple or Ahmedi Mosque you will be welcomed with open arms. On any day not just a so called open day that no fucker took part in. Why isn't she on TV explaining herself ? Until that day I will keep an open mind on what went on inside. As would every single Court in are land but don't let that sway ya.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 14, 2015 0:29:43 GMT
What was the original point ? The media is full of bullshit. She tweeted in the heat of the moment easy done. We don't know the facts of what was said why wasn't she show around the Mosque ? Even if it wasn't part of the 1% taking part in the open day ? Go down to you local Church or Jewish Temple or Ahmedi Mosque you will be welcomed with open arms. On any day not just a so called open day that no fucker took part in. Why isn't she on TV explaining herself ? Until that day I will keep an open mind on what went on inside. As would every single Court in are land but don't let that sway ya. The original point was regarding trusting the media, a slight difference to them being full of bullshit. You are correct, we don't know what was said but at the time she put her claims out and they were not correct. She wasn't ushered out and given that she was in the mosque for less than 10 seconds it would be hard to believe there could've been a full conversation. Regarding your comments on the courts, do you think there is a case that the said Mosque must face for turning Cathy away? I'm not sure why any court of law would be brought into it but then again given that Ms Newman has already publically apologised, admitting she was wrong, could her word be trusted in a court of law? I'm guessing anyone questioning her could quite easily call her conduct into question over this matter but then again don't let that sway you either. I have no intention of visiting any local places of worship and at the same time I have no interest in reporting how many welcome me with open arms or reject me. If any did turn me away I doubt it would make national news but then again I'm not a news reporter on a national television channel. I'll reiterate my previous point that I actually watch Channel 4 News over the others and I do genuinely think Cathy Newman is very good when questioning people live on air. She is also a good reporter but in this instance has made a mistake. She has now apologised which is good but as I also previously stated the damage has been done. This is the problem we've got at the moment. People are now sticking up for her after she's apologies because she's received some stupid/nasty messages on twitter - however this would never have occurred if she'd not lied in the 1st place. So I ask you, can we trust the media?
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Post by kinetic on Feb 14, 2015 7:24:50 GMT
What was the original point ? The media is full of bullshit. She tweeted in the heat of the moment easy done. We don't know the facts of what was said why wasn't she show around the Mosque ? Even if it wasn't part of the 1% taking part in the open day ? Go down to you local Church or Jewish Temple or Ahmedi Mosque you will be welcomed with open arms. On any day not just a so called open day that no fucker took part in. Why isn't she on TV explaining herself ? Until that day I will keep an open mind on what went on inside. As would every single Court in are land but don't let that sway ya. The original point was regarding trusting the media, a slight difference to them being full of bullshit. You are correct, we don't know what was said but at the time she put her claims out and they were not correct. She wasn't ushered out and given that she was in the mosque for less than 10 seconds it would be hard to believe there could've been a full conversation. Regarding your comments on the courts, do you think there is a case that the said Mosque must face for turning Cathy away? I'm not sure why any court of law would be brought into it but then again given that Ms Newman has already publically apologised, admitting she was wrong, could her word be trusted in a court of law? I'm guessing anyone questioning her could quite easily call her conduct into question over this matter but then again don't let that sway you either. I have no intention of visiting any local places of worship and at the same time I have no interest in reporting how many welcome me with open arms or reject me. If any did turn me away I doubt it would make national news but then again I'm not a news reporter on a national television channel. I'll reiterate my previous point that I actually watch Channel 4 News over the others and I do genuinely think Cathy Newman is very good when questioning people live on air. She is also a good reporter but in this instance has made a mistake. She has now apologised which is good but as I also previously stated the damage has been done. This is the problem we've got at the moment. People are now sticking up for her after she's apologies because she's received some stupid/nasty messages on twitter - however this would never have occurred if she'd not lied in the 1st place. So I ask you, can we trust the media? It would never get to a court of law none story she lied or maybe she distorted the truth depending on which side the fence ya on Thinking with a bit of rationality though there isn't much defend. Tweets are done with no thought a milliseconds process. Like ya say though why go on the news a carry on with ya lie ? Suppose she could have set the record straight. Still I want hear what she has say now after she has apologised. Her reasons and sorry PMT wont cut it not the buses either. Also want know why she would want visit a Mosque that had not opened its doors. The media there's some truths in there suppose. Least we got a kind of free press although I do think the UK is turning more and more into a police state by the day. Unless you happen to be Sunni then the powers that be will not say shit.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 14, 2015 23:29:45 GMT
It would never get to a court of law none story she lied or maybe she distorted the truth depending on which side the fence ya on Thinking with a bit of rationality though there isn't much defend. Tweets are done with no thought a milliseconds process. Like ya say though why go on the news a carry on with ya lie ? Suppose she could have set the record straight. Still I want hear what she has say now after she has apologised. Her reasons and sorry PMT wont cut it not the buses either. Also want know why she would want visit a Mosque that had not opened its doors. The media there's some truths in there suppose. Least we got a kind of free press although I do think the UK is turning more and more into a police state by the day. Unless you happen to be Sunni then the powers that be will not say shit. I don't happen to be a Sunni. She lied - She said she was ushered out the door, you quoted it. She wasn't therefore it's a lie. No distorting of the truth, just a lie. PMT won't cut it either, although I'm not sure why the bus company should be dragged into it.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 15, 2015 1:00:02 GMT
It would never get to a court of law none story she lied or maybe she distorted the truth depending on which side the fence ya on Thinking with a bit of rationality though there isn't much defend. Tweets are done with no thought a milliseconds process. Like ya say though why go on the news a carry on with ya lie ? Suppose she could have set the record straight. Still I want hear what she has say now after she has apologised. Her reasons and sorry PMT wont cut it not the buses either. Also want know why she would want visit a Mosque that had not opened its doors. The media there's some truths in there suppose. Least we got a kind of free press although I do think the UK is turning more and more into a police state by the day. Unless you happen to be Sunni then the powers that be will not say shit. I don't happen to be a Sunni. She lied - She said she was ushered out the door, you quoted it. She wasn't therefore it's a lie. No distorting of the truth, just a lie. PMT won't cut it either, although I'm not sure why the bus company should be dragged into it. Never claimed you was pull ya panties out ya crack. The bus company never turn up liars.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Feb 15, 2015 17:03:25 GMT
Never claimed you was pull ya panties out ya crack. The bus company never turn up liars. IT just seemed to be a bizarre thing to say.
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Post by kinetic on Feb 16, 2015 7:50:12 GMT
Never claimed you was pull ya panties out ya crack. The bus company never turn up liars. IT just seemed to be a bizarre thing to say. Well I thought with the tone ya know about Britain turning into a Police State. But there is one section they aint to ready upset in some cases co conspire, Rotherham being ya prime. You read sommat that wasn't there. Cause I know expect a few lines on punctuation.
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