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Post by oslostokie1 on Jan 18, 2015 10:26:12 GMT
That spine of Bego, Shawx, Whelan and Walters represents the connection between the steel of the past and the flair of the current and future and is part of our evolution as a team. Some flair players around them means we get a nice blend that has been expertly concocted by Hughes
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 18, 2015 11:16:07 GMT
Definitely worth a two year deal.
Glenn has been a fabulous player for us.
For those who don't rate him ask youself how many poor players play nearly 200 games in CM in the Premier League.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 11:53:52 GMT
Definitely worth a two year deal. Glenn has been a fabulous player for us. For those who don't rate him ask youself how many poor players play nearly 200 games in CM in the Premier League. Wilshere must be close by now
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 18, 2015 11:58:53 GMT
I like Glen and would certainly offer him another 2-year-deal, but despite this I think this is one of the positions we should try to upgrade next season. When we meet mediocre teams Glen is fine, but when we play the better teams away I actually think he shows we could do better. Take the Arsenal game away where he was probably our worst player of the day. He is a bit slow, isn't creative enough and never scores a goal any longer. Anyway a very good squad player, but a player like Delph at Villa would certainly be an upgrade the way I see it. It's not his job to be creative for fuck's fucking sake! (Sorry Rob.) You could say thay, but again I will ephasize that creativity is needed at top level for most midfielders, at least if you have an ambition of breaking into the top 8. Actually I feel Sidwell has a better potential than Whelan when fully fit, but as I've said before I rate Glen and we need a squad.
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 18, 2015 12:02:13 GMT
Given what we paid for him and what he has contributed he's probably one of the best signings in the history of SCFC One of our underated signings
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 18, 2015 12:11:39 GMT
I do rate Whelan but I feel if we want to be breaking into the top 7/8 we need an upgrade. I'd love to have a Tiote or Song type player sat in front of the back four, have the same defensive and discipline qualities of Whelan but have that extra bit of athleticism and quality on the ball.
As others have said though, he's easily been the best 500k we've ever spent and there's no other player in the squad that can do the job he does.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 18, 2015 12:26:27 GMT
Defensive midfielder in non creative non scoring shocker.
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Post by Plave on Jan 18, 2015 12:33:08 GMT
Definitely worth a two year deal. Glenn has been a fabulous player for us. For those who don't rate him ask youself how many poor players play nearly 200 games in CM in the Premier League. Wilshere must be close by now 95 He's not known as Jack Wheelchair for nothing
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 12:34:59 GMT
For 500k he's been a cracking player for Stoke and worth another deal.
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Post by liathroid on Jan 18, 2015 12:46:32 GMT
Wilshere must be close by now 95 He's not known as Jack Wheelchair for nothing (rofl)classic
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2015 12:47:59 GMT
How long did we give Sidwell?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 12:48:13 GMT
Think it was a big statement from Hughes to give him the armband and hopefully those doing the negotiating will take note. Spot on Jamo, was just about to say the same thing.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 18, 2015 12:53:34 GMT
It's not his job to be creative for fuck's fucking sake! (Sorry Rob.) You could say thay, but again I will ephasize that creativity is needed at top level for most midfielders, at least if you have an ambition of breaking into the top 8. Actually I feel Sidwell has a better potential than Whelan when fully fit, but as I've said before I rate Glen and we need a squad. How much creativity does Busquets have? How much did Makelele or Dunga have? Matic is hardly Mr assist, he's arguably Chelsea' best player. Oftentimes just just need someone to sit and protect the back four, keeping it simple, breaking up play and keeping the back door shut so the Bojans of the world can do their thing.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 18, 2015 13:09:44 GMT
The pissing about with his contract is a disgrace. Apparently it's Whelan who's stalling as he wants a longer contract that's already on the table, I've heard we've offered him a 2 year contract but he want 3 with the option of a 4th. If he can get that size of contract from any other Premier club at 31 then good luck to him, I don't think he'll get it here though. Gouranga.
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Post by bertiestan on Jan 18, 2015 15:23:42 GMT
I was thinking about this the other day. We paid pretty much exactly the same money for Whelan as we did for Cranson in 1989. Madness H Cranson was from Sheffield Wednesday aswell, some good deals off that club!
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 18, 2015 15:25:31 GMT
You could say thay, but again I will ephasize that creativity is needed at top level for most midfielders, at least if you have an ambition of breaking into the top 8. Actually I feel Sidwell has a better potential than Whelan when fully fit, but as I've said before I rate Glen and we need a squad. How much creativity does Busquets have? How much did Makelele or Dunga have? Matic is hardly Mr assist, he's arguably Chelsea' best player. Oftentimes just just need someone to sit and protect the back four, keeping it simple, breaking up play and keeping the back door shut so the Bojans of the world can do their thing. If you start comparing Matic and Whelan I don't think I need to add any comments, I also said Whelan is too slow and Makelele certainly wasn't. When the games run fast I always get the impression that Glen struggles because he needs too much time on the ball. You could add Mascerano to your list as well, but with his pace he can cover so much ground compared to Glen that it's almost unbelieveable. As I said before, Glen has been great for us, but does he have enough in the tank to take us another step forward? I doubt this, but as part of a 25 man squad I certainly think there is room for a player like Glen.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 18, 2015 15:41:31 GMT
How much creativity does Busquets have? How much did Makelele or Dunga have? Matic is hardly Mr assist, he's arguably Chelsea' best player. Oftentimes just just need someone to sit and protect the back four, keeping it simple, breaking up play and keeping the back door shut so the Bojans of the world can do their thing. If you start comparing Matic and Whelan I don't think I need to add any comments, I also said Whelan is too slow and Makelele certainly wasn't. When the games run fast I always get the impression that Glen struggles because he needs too much time on the ball. You could add Mascerano to your list as well, but with his pace he can cover so much ground compared to Glen that it's almost unbelieveable. As I said before, Glen has been great for us, but does he have enough in the tank to take us another step forward? I doubt this, but as part of a 25 man squad I certainly think there is room for a player like Glen. But this was specifically about the creativity criticism Rob, not pace. And I think you're sharp enough to know that I brought Matic up because he's a reasonably similar ilk of player - creating isn't really what he's there to do.
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