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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 22, 2014 23:18:19 GMT
Adam was superb when he came on. Arnie was fucking wank throughout. Hope that helps clarify things. Oh god That cunt won't help you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:18:34 GMT
Thanks for such a wonderful insight to my fellow posters. I'd say that affair assesment in summing that game up would be to say that Chelsea were no where near there best tonight and once again we were the architects of our own downfall. Poor at the back and with nothing up top does indeed suggest that we're in for a long long winter and to give petty fouls away when there was absolutely no need to and close to their own area too was both criminal and smacks of indiscipline. Pile of fcuking tick turd yet again. Sometimes you just have to accept that a miles better team gave us a going over
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 22, 2014 23:19:05 GMT
What has PALACIOS got to do with it? Stop talking shit ffs. Mate with all due respect why is comparing the two signings so odd. It was an example as how much can be wasted, and how much can be gained, maybe open your mind. It is the future of our club. I really haven't got a clue what the fuck you are on about. What the fuck has Palacios got anything to do with the game tonight?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:19:12 GMT
That cunt won't help you. Could he teach Geoff to pass?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:19:12 GMT
When you're chasing a game I don't see how Whelan is the player you want to bring on.
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Post by RAF on Dec 22, 2014 23:19:43 GMT
Arnie was gash mate hugged the touch line never really got involved different when assadi came on You watched a completely different game to me then. H
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:20:07 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. Really? I thought it was one of his worst games for a while. Although he was not helped by the lazy N'Zonzi. I cannot believe the original post here. Cameron was a massive liability once again. He gave the ball away on countless occasions and as for protecting the defence? You must be joking! In a game where you could see he was supposed to sit in tight and make a cage he was constantly out of position and they were always out numbering us and very often the two centre backs had no midfielders in the middle and in front of them when Chelsea countered. Geoff Cameron is way out of his depth. To say they had more space in the middle after he went off is laughable. They had one good attack after the sub and it just so happened to land at the feet of a world class player 8 yards from goal. Geoff also cost us the first goal being bullied as always on a cross. Why Cameron was marking john terry I don't know. Despite Geoff, the rest of the team played well I thought and if we hadn't given the early goal away we could have taken something
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:20:12 GMT
Whelan for Cameron? I don't think so no. Whelan is more sideways passy than Cameron. Walters, Arnie and Crouch needed dragging off. Hughes got the subs totally wrong again imo. I'll give you Crouch wasnt a side I'd use him for tbh. But I can see the shape problem with Cameron coming off, but he wasn't effective against matic who was giving him and Nzonzi trouble and Adam is a super sub for momentum and guile going forward leaving space. I thought Arnie was a bit tired but Assaidi is very sneaky and got a look in. I thought at the time for us it was a "were going for it" sub and we needed the fight from Adam today otherwise Chelsea was just killing off the game. Arnie in that first half was just awful, he grew into the second half a bit but he still wasn't good enough. It was a going for it sub but it completely left us open, it meant we left 3 showers of shite on the pitch and it meant we conceded a second.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 22, 2014 23:20:49 GMT
Arnie was fucking wank. Again. Terrible.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Dec 22, 2014 23:21:12 GMT
Adam was superb when he came on. Arnie was fucking wank throughout. Hope that helps clarify things. No it doesn't. Adam was far from superb and Arnie wasn't wank throughout. Get a grip.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:21:47 GMT
Whelan for Cameron? I don't think so no. Whelan is more sideways passy than Cameron. Walters, Arnie and Crouch needed dragging off. Hughes got the subs totally wrong again imo. I said at half time that we needed to get Walters and Crouch off pronto and try to and exploit some of the space that Chelsea were affording us between the lines by bringing on Assaidi and Diouf. Having said that, Cameron was struggling and he was a clear candidate to be subbed as well, personally I would have gone for Whelan but I can completely understand why Hughes went with the more attacking option of Adam instead. I just thought it was asking for trouble.....it was. I would have bought Adam on though but for Walters and moved Bojan out on the right and float from there because there was just no room in the middle for him.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 22, 2014 23:21:58 GMT
Like i've posted on another thread Walters,Crouch and Arnie were all poor tonight and the lack of pace killed us imo which none of them have.We miss Moses massively and the sooner he's back the better for all concerned.
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 22, 2014 23:22:29 GMT
Really? I thought it was one of his worst games for a while. Although he was not helped by the lazy N'Zonzi. Chelsea created virtually fuck all in open play, Cameron was a big part of that. N'Zonzi was one of the better players tonight. Cameron and Nzonzi stopped alot of Chelsea's play but they stopped ours just as well going forward. I thought either could of tried to dribble more tbh. It was a test of all tests for them today. Considering the opposing class.
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Post by RAF on Dec 22, 2014 23:22:43 GMT
Adam was superb when he came on. Arnie was fucking wank throughout. Hope that helps clarify things. All it clarifies is you talk through your arse regularly. H
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Post by tazi on Dec 22, 2014 23:22:48 GMT
Thanks for such a wonderful insight to my fellow posters. I'd say that affair assesment in summing that game up would be to say that Chelsea were no where near there best tonight and once again we were the architects of our own downfall. Poor at the back and with nothing up top does indeed suggest that we're in for a long long winter and to give petty fouls away when there was absolutely no need to and close to their own area too was both criminal and smacks of indiscipline. Pile of fcuking tick turd yet again. Sometimes you just have to accept that a miles better team gave us a going over I don't think they were at there best, Infact far from it but once again we've fcuked ourselves over for reasons as previously stated. That performance was woeful.
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Post by RAF on Dec 22, 2014 23:24:31 GMT
Like i've posted on another thread Walters,Crouch and Arnie were all poor tonight and the lack of pace killed us imo which none of them have.We miss Moses massively and the sooner he's back the better for all concerned. Not like you to have a an unwarranted crack at Arnie Mutters, it's like he's made you look a bit of a cunter before and you haven't forgiven him? H
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:24:43 GMT
Cameron pass accuracy 81%. Nzonzi 85%.
Bardsley 65%....
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Dec 22, 2014 23:25:13 GMT
Mate with all due respect why is comparing the two signings so odd. It was an example as how much can be wasted, and how much can be gained, maybe open your mind. It is the future of our club. I really haven't got a clue what the fuck you are on about. What the fuck has Palacios got anything to do with the game tonight? Nothing mate as I said in the post. You have a merry Christmas and lets do them on New Years Day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:25:47 GMT
Sometimes you just have to accept that a miles better team gave us a going over I don't think they were at there best, Infact far from it but once again we've fcuked ourselves over for reasons as previously stated. That performance was woeful. We'll agree to disagree then. I thought that we did OK against a top side. Nothing more nothing less.
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Post by tazi on Dec 22, 2014 23:26:34 GMT
Arnie was fucking wank. Again. Terrible. He wasn't quite that good.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 22, 2014 23:26:44 GMT
Like i've posted on another thread Walters,Crouch and Arnie were all poor tonight and the lack of pace killed us imo which none of them have.We miss Moses massively and the sooner he's back the better for all concerned. Not like you to have a an unwarranted crack at Arnie Mutters, it's like he's made you look a bit of a cunter before and you haven't forgiven him? H Don't talk rubbish he was poor tonight and thats what i judge him on and that cross 2nd half summed him up.
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Post by tazi on Dec 22, 2014 23:27:06 GMT
I don't think they were at there best, Infact far from it but once again we've fcuked ourselves over for reasons as previously stated. That performance was woeful. We'll agree to disagree then. I thought that we did OK against a top side. Nothing more nothing less. Fair enough.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Dec 22, 2014 23:27:26 GMT
Cameron pass accuracy 81%. Nzonzi 85%. Bardsley 65%.... To be fair mate, the central midfielders have the highest pass accuracy in most games. I thought both Bardsley and Cameron were poor today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:28:08 GMT
Cameron pass accuracy 81%. Nzonzi 85%. Bardsley 65%.... The key passes must have made up Geoff's other 19% The 81% being 5 yard tika-takas my nan would have completed
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 22, 2014 23:29:02 GMT
Adam was superb when he came on. Arnie was fucking wank throughout. Hope that helps clarify things. All it clarifies is you talk through your arse regularly. H Arnie was dreadful you blind cunr.
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Post by RAF on Dec 22, 2014 23:30:21 GMT
All it clarifies is you talk through your arse regularly. H Arnie was dreadful you blind cunr. He most certainly wasn't tonight. H
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:30:36 GMT
Cameron , and I am unanimous.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:30:34 GMT
Arnie is being ruined being hung out to dry on the left. He needs to be played on the right and you watch what will happen; he will get to the by-line far more often. he didn't do too badly today. We give away cheap goals - that is our biggest problem
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 22, 2014 23:30:38 GMT
To get a result against Chelsea you need at least 9 of your team to have a good game. Sadly tonight Bardsley, Crouch, Walters, Cameron and to a lesser extent N'Zonzi didn't have particularly good games. The rest I thought were very good. I didn't expect to get anything tonight and I was worried we'd get a bit of a slapping to be honest, but up until the last 15 minutes we were in with a shout of getting something. Not too despondent at all really.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 22, 2014 23:31:17 GMT
How the fuck was Arnie wank just ? He was probably man of the match he looked sharp, made some good play. Hit one over hit cross. Jesus Christ stoke fans are embarrassing. Apparently 6 weeks ago Bojan should of been sent out on loan. 99% of stoke fans have never played the game
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