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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 22, 2014 23:00:09 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. But was that because Cameron went off or because Adam was his replacement? If Whelan had come on, would things had have been different in terms of protecting the back four? But by the same token would we have also not had the attacking impetus that Hughes was hoping that Adam would provide as we chased the game?
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Dec 22, 2014 23:00:32 GMT
Right ok and what is your point. My point is you are talking shite. Bardsley has been a consistent performer this season and is our best option at right back. He was up a against a world class mercurial talent in Hazard tonight and did OK. We're comparing our footballers to the third best side in world football who were assembled for 30 times as much as ours. Get a reality check ffs. Bardsley was diabolical tonight in my opinion, the first goal was down to him and he got no better. Third best side in world football please, and as for cost Bojan cost us a damn sight less than Palacious.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 22, 2014 23:02:01 GMT
My point is you are talking shite. Bardsley has been a consistent performer this season and is our best option at right back. He was up a against a world class mercurial talent in Hazard tonight and did OK. We're comparing our footballers to the third best side in world football who were assembled for 30 times as much as ours. Get a reality check ffs. Bardsley was diabolical tonight in my opinion, the first goal was down to him and he got no better. Third best side in world football please, and as for cost Bojan cost us a damn sight less than Palacious. What has PALACIOS got to do with it? Stop talking shit ffs.
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Post by unknown182 on Dec 22, 2014 23:02:12 GMT
Pieters sits back for the first half and Arnie receives the ball on the half way line. The only option is to pass it back or into midfield but people still moan their bollocks off. He will never in a millions years pick the ball up and beat two players down the line with pace.
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Post by mailman44 on Dec 22, 2014 23:02:53 GMT
Utter bollocks mate. Â Go and watch fucking basketball. Proof once again that Yanks no nowt about football. Tar every Yank with the same brush, eh? Have a word with yourself about your sweeping generalizations.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:02:57 GMT
Bardsley Arnie walters crouch cameron were all about average. But You simply can't be average against sides like chelsea. We never won a 2nd ball all night. But we move on, Chelsea were superb in every department. I think tonight we saw the league winners
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 22, 2014 23:03:49 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. But was that because Cameron went off or because Adam was his replacement? If Whelan had come on, would things had have been different in terms of protecting the back four? But by the same token would we have also not had the attacking impetus that Hughes was hoping that Adam would provide as we chased the game? I liked the change tbh given the team we were facing it made players think faster and move to get open. Our passing was better for it.
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Post by tazi on Dec 22, 2014 23:03:52 GMT
Utter shite at the back, toothless up top and both disorganised and indisciplined in between.
Only one place that pile of poo poo is heading.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 22, 2014 23:04:15 GMT
Pieters sits back for the first half and Arnie receives the ball on the half way line. The only option is to pass it back or into midfield but people still moan their bollocks off. He will never in a millions years pick the ball up and beat two players down the line with pace. Absolutely right mate. On the other side of the pitch we worked it to Walters a lot further up the pitch (only for him to balls it up). Arnie was far from perfect but no where near as bad as some of the spactoids on here and sitting behind me would have you.
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Post by trigger on Dec 22, 2014 23:04:58 GMT
Absolute rubbish, Arnie had a decent game. All about opinions of course but Arnie is totally shite. 80 minutes of constantly not beating a single player and sticking his fat arse into anyone who got close to him and as for that complete fcuk up of a cross, shot in the second half wtf was that? The only worse Player was Diouff.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 22, 2014 23:05:20 GMT
Utter shite at the back, toothless up top and both disorganised and indisciplined in between. Only one place that pile of poo poo is heading. King know nothing fuktard is on now.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 22, 2014 23:05:49 GMT
Hard to judge people too much tonight, gave away a crap goal so early, meaning they just sat back. They had too much pace for our forwards and midfield to really get past them. Walters just doesn't have the pace or skill to make an impact against a team like them. We need a proper winger who Hughes is willing to play and a more mobile CF.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:06:03 GMT
Utter shite at the back, toothless up top and both disorganised and indisciplined in between. Only one place that pile of poo poo is heading. King know nothing fuktard is on now. Don't feed the troll mate.
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Post by lordb on Dec 22, 2014 23:06:50 GMT
Nobody was 'dog shit' The weakest link for me was either Bardsley or Cameron, but neither were 'dog shit'. Cat shit maybe?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:07:21 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. I agree but it was a needed change of momentum. Charlie got not only the players passing and going but he got the crowd in it for a short time aswell. Tough choice. It was the wrong sub. We lost all shape and we still Arnie (who was toss) and Walters (who was worse) on the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:07:31 GMT
Bardsley and Diouf were the two worst players for us.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:20 GMT
But was that because Cameron went off or because Adam was his replacement? If Whelan had come on, would things had have been different in terms of protecting the back four? But by the same token would we have also not had the attacking impetus that Hughes was hoping that Adam would provide as we chased the game? I liked the change tbh given the team we were facing it made players think faster and move to get open. Our passing was better for it. Yeah me too - that was the point I was (probably badly) making.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:39 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. But was that because Cameron went off or because Adam was his replacement? If Whelan had come on, would things had have been different in terms of protecting the back four? But by the same token would we have also not had the attacking impetus that Hughes was hoping that Adam would provide as we chased the game? Whelan for Cameron? I don't think so no. Whelan is more sideways passy than Cameron. Walters, Arnie and Crouch needed dragging off. Hughes got the subs totally wrong again imo.
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Post by 2004 on Dec 22, 2014 23:09:27 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. Really? I thought it was one of his worst games for a while. Although he was not helped by the lazy N'Zonzi.
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Post by crownmeking on Dec 22, 2014 23:09:32 GMT
Utter shite at the back, toothless up top and both disorganised and indisciplined in between. Only one place that pile of poo poo is heading. Fuck off somewhere else you silly cunt
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 22, 2014 23:10:36 GMT
If Charlie Adam had started that game then we would of got beaten 6 and ended with 10 men. The fat fucker is a liability. Twice he tried to elbow someone in front me.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 22, 2014 23:11:35 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. Really? I thought it was one of his worst games for a while. Although he was not helped by the lazy N'Zonzi. Lazy N'Zonzi? Come on now, it's getting stupid.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:12:15 GMT
Cameron's passing was shocking but taking him off cost us a chance of getting the result imo. He defended the back 4 really well and taking him off gave them acres of space. Really? I thought it was one of his worst games for a while. Although he was not helped by the lazy N'Zonzi. Chelsea created virtually fuck all in open play, Cameron was a big part of that. N'Zonzi was one of the better players tonight.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 22, 2014 23:14:31 GMT
Adam was superb when he came on. Arnie was fucking wank throughout. Hope that helps clarify things.
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Post by 2004 on Dec 22, 2014 23:14:53 GMT
Really? I thought it was one of his worst games for a while. Although he was not helped by the lazy N'Zonzi. Chelsea created virtually fuck all in open play, Cameron was a big part of that. N'Zonzi was one of the better players tonight. Maybe just me but I thought N'Zonzi was walking too much. Not doing enough.
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Post by tazi on Dec 22, 2014 23:16:27 GMT
Thanks for such a wonderful insight to my fellow posters.
I'd say that affair assesment in summing that game up would be to say that Chelsea were no where near there best tonight and once again we were the architects of our own downfall.
Poor at the back and with nothing up top does indeed suggest that we're in for a long long winter and to give petty fouls away when there was absolutely no need to and close to their own area too was both criminal and smacks of indiscipline.
Pile of fcuking tick turd yet again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:16:49 GMT
Adam was superb when he came on. Arnie was fucking wank throughout. Hope that helps clarify things. Oh god
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Dec 22, 2014 23:17:06 GMT
Bardsley was diabolical tonight in my opinion, the first goal was down to him and he got no better. Third best side in world football please, and as for cost Bojan cost us a damn sight less than Palacious. What has PALACIOS got to do with it? Stop talking shit ffs. Mate with all due respect why is comparing the two signings so odd. It was an example as how much can be wasted, and how much can be gained, maybe open your mind. It is the future of our club.
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 22, 2014 23:17:10 GMT
But was that because Cameron went off or because Adam was his replacement? If Whelan had come on, would things had have been different in terms of protecting the back four? But by the same token would we have also not had the attacking impetus that Hughes was hoping that Adam would provide as we chased the game? Whelan for Cameron? I don't think so no. Whelan is more sideways passy than Cameron. Walters, Arnie and Crouch needed dragging off. Hughes got the subs totally wrong again imo. I'll give you Crouch wasnt a side I'd use him for tbh. But I can see the shape problem with Cameron coming off, but he wasn't effective against matic who was giving him and Nzonzi trouble and Adam is a super sub for momentum and guile going forward leaving space. I thought Arnie was a bit tired but Assaidi is very sneaky and got a look in. I thought at the time for us it was a "were going for it" sub and we needed the fight from Adam today otherwise Chelsea was just killing off the game.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 22, 2014 23:17:15 GMT
But was that because Cameron went off or because Adam was his replacement? If Whelan had come on, would things had have been different in terms of protecting the back four? But by the same token would we have also not had the attacking impetus that Hughes was hoping that Adam would provide as we chased the game? Whelan for Cameron? I don't think so no. Whelan is more sideways passy than Cameron. Walters, Arnie and Crouch needed dragging off. Hughes got the subs totally wrong again imo. I said at half time that we needed to get Walters and Crouch off pronto and try to and exploit some of the space that Chelsea were affording us between the lines by bringing on Assaidi and Diouf. Having said that, Cameron was struggling and he was a clear candidate to be subbed as well, personally I would have gone for Whelan but I can completely understand why Hughes went with the more attacking option of Adam instead.
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