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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:41:07 GMT
Reports suggest there's been an offer on the table for him for a while now, which he has stalled on. He's getting to an age where he needs to make sure the deal is right for him, so I can understand why he is taking his time. Having said that, I don't see him doing any better than his current lot. I wouldn't pull out all the stops on this one. I reckon he'll sign eventually. For now, the place is Cameron's anyway. That last sentence ? Cough Still Cameron's place. Without doubt.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 22, 2014 23:42:53 GMT
That last sentence ? Cough Still Cameron's place. Without doubt. You'd prefer Cameron there ahead of Whelan? Really?
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Post by werrington on Dec 22, 2014 23:43:06 GMT
That last sentence ? Cough Still Cameron's place. Without doubt. Seriously mate ? Gave it away time and time again
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:05:52 GMT
Still Cameron's place. Without doubt. Seriously mate ? Gave it away time and time again 81% pass completion. You're thinking of Bardsley.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:06:16 GMT
Still Cameron's place. Without doubt. You'd prefer Cameron there ahead of Whelan? Really? Absolutely.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 23, 2014 0:15:56 GMT
You'd prefer Cameron there ahead of Whelan? Really? Absolutely. Absolutely? That's pretty emphatic ... just what is it then about Geoff, that makes you think he's head and shoulders above Whelan at playing that defensive role in midfield?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:26:15 GMT
Absolutely? That's pretty emphatic ... just what is it then about Geoff, that makes you think he's head and shoulders above Whelan at playing that defensive role in midfield? I think he's done nothing wrong to warrant losing his spot. His substitution was a "we're at home, we're losing - we need to go more attacking" decision in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case for moving Geoff to right back after Bardsley's performance today and bringing back Glenn or Sidwell.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 23, 2014 0:32:57 GMT
Absolutely? That's pretty emphatic ... just what is it then about Geoff, that makes you think he's head and shoulders above Whelan at playing that defensive role in midfield? I think he's done nothing wrong to warrant losing his spot. His substitution was a "we're at home, we're losing - we need to go more attacking" decision in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case for moving Geoff to right back after Bardsley's performance today and bringing back Glenn or Sidwell. Yeah but what is it (specifically) that makes you think that Cameron is 'absolutely' a better defensive mid than Whelan mate?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:35:04 GMT
I think he's done nothing wrong to warrant losing his spot. His substitution was a "we're at home, we're losing - we need to go more attacking" decision in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case for moving Geoff to right back after Bardsley's performance today and bringing back Glenn or Sidwell. Yeah but what is it (specifically) that makes you think that Cameron is 'absolutely' a better defensive mid than Whelan mate? Maybe I wasn't clear. I just think he should definitely keep his place for Everton. That's all. I don't see what difference Glenn would've made today.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 23, 2014 0:37:40 GMT
How Hughes sees Cameron as in any way better than Whelan is a total mystery to me , his dopey night started with his feeble attempt to mark Terry for the goal and ended when Adam came on and upped the wnergy level of the midfield by about 25% add to that a few unforced misplaced passes and hopefully we have a player with his arse nailed to the bench for the forseeable future
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Post by werrington on Dec 23, 2014 6:15:08 GMT
Absolutely? That's pretty emphatic ... just what is it then about Geoff, that makes you think he's head and shoulders above Whelan at playing that defensive role in midfield? I think he's done nothing wrong to warrant losing his spot. His substitution was a "we're at home, we're losing - we need to go more attacking" decision in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case for moving Geoff to right back after Bardsley's performance today and bringing back Glenn or Sidwell. The only 2 players you are constantly looking to get out of the side or offer hardly any praise too are the ones who Geoff Cameron is in competition for places with Interesting that
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 7:47:23 GMT
I think he's done nothing wrong to warrant losing his spot. His substitution was a "we're at home, we're losing - we need to go more attacking" decision in my opinion. I suppose you could make a case for moving Geoff to right back after Bardsley's performance today and bringing back Glenn or Sidwell. The only 2 players you are constantly looking to get out of the side or offer hardly any praise too are the ones who Geoff Cameron is in competition for places with Interesting that I gave Bardsley credit at the start of the season when he was playing well. He's not anymore. As for Glenn, I think he's done well too but lost his place unluckily through injury. When/If Cameron plays poor enough to deserve being dropped, I'd bring him back in.
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Post by 2004 on Dec 23, 2014 9:04:58 GMT
If Whelan's fit I'd start him on Boxing Day, no question. His wife says he is 100% fit. He should replace Cameron in the side as Geoff was so poor.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 23, 2014 9:12:10 GMT
If we're replacing players on the back of one bad game then we'd be chopping and changing on a game by game basis. It's not like we've got Ronaldo ready to come back.
In my opinion Cameron offers more in that position. He tackles better, he covers ground quicker and looks to be more progressive. Unlucky for Glenn but tough shit.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 23, 2014 9:21:15 GMT
Still Cameron's place. Without doubt. You'd prefer Cameron there ahead of Whelan? Really? Yes more mobile and quicker by a significant amount and so able to deal with quicker players and to drive forward out of trouble. Started to get his head up and try and stretch play. Whelan has taken it as far as he can and will always limit our options. N'Zonzi drives forward more when Cameron is alongside
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Post by wembley4372 on Dec 23, 2014 10:23:36 GMT
Whelan seems to have lost his ability to drop his team mates in the shit with his passing. Cameron doesn't seem to have discovered this part of his game. If you watch him you will notice that he still watches the game from time to time, he's a very poor version of Rory.
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Post by pez75 on Dec 23, 2014 12:00:55 GMT
Our best player the last few seasons, was also good under TP but had to play as he was told, which some people can't see the real captain on the pitch taking on that job when Delap went Absolute bollocks I am afraid. He has had a bit of a resurgence recently (Mainly down to the fact that he has better players around him now) but best player of the last few seasons? What the fuck are you smoking? Yes, he did as he was told by Pulis, but it was a match made in heaven - asking a limited player to do a limited role. Everyone could see that - which is why his role is still exactly the same now. I though the captain was Shawcross? Somthing he does a bloody good job of IMO.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Dec 23, 2014 12:14:54 GMT
Our best player the last few seasons, was also good under TP but had to play as he was told, which some people can't see the real captain on the pitch taking on that job when Delap went Absolute bollocks I am afraid. He has had a bit of a resurgence recently (Mainly down to the fact that he has better players around him now) but best player of the last few seasons? What the fuck are you smoking? Yes, he did as he was told by Pulis, but it was a match made in heaven - asking a limited player to do a limited role. Everyone could see that - which is why his role is still exactly the same now. I though the captain was Shawcross? Somthing he does a bloody good job of IMO. More absolute bollixs from you. It was plain to see last night that he was missed, no steel in the middle ( till Adam)
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